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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1641 » by aguiar95 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:36 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:
Yuri Vaultin wrote:Why isn't Paul Reed a guaranteed first rounder?


Knicks should draft him at #28 and pair him with Robinson in the frontcourt. They'll block everything at the rim.


Both are foul machines. Easy 25-30 FTA for the opponent.
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Post#1642 » by karkinos » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:06 pm

anthony edwards over/under 1.5 draft position (under 1.5 = #1 pick overall)

i'm betting on the over -130 (for those interested, under is about +108)

looking for an onyeka top 5 prop but can't find one.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1643 » by chaimer » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm

karkinos wrote:anthony edwards over/under 1.5 draft position (under 1.5 = #1 pick overall)

i'm betting on the over -130 (for those interested, under is about +108)

looking for an onyeka top 5 prop but can't find one.


you like Edwards over even after yesterday's reports about other teams operating as if Edwards goes to Wolves?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1644 » by stormi » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:42 pm

Any promise rumors?

Scoop on the 76ers is the regime pre-Morey (Brand / Rozman &co.) really liked Isaiah Joe and were a contributing factor in him opting back into the draft at the deadline. Not sure if that means #21 or with one of their early 2nds. I've also heard rumblings on Cole Anthony, but nothing as concrete.
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Post#1645 » by doordoor123 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:12 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Why isn't Paul Reed a guaranteed first rounder?


He should be a lottery pick. He's going to be all-defense.
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Post#1646 » by Warriors Analyst » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:24 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:More mocks and rumours are linking us to Saddiq Bey should we stay at #11. Can anyone convince me that he's the best choice at that slot? I think he's solid, and his character by all accounts checks out. I even like (though don't quite see) the Middleton / Prince comparisons. But is he far from what he will be? Couldn't we get a pick with a higher ceiling? Sell me on him, please. I don't know enough about him to appreciate room for growth on top of what he brings.


He's long, a willing and capable defender 1 through 4, a high volume three point shooter with a good release, and he's pretty decent with the ball in his hands. He's not an explosive athlete, but he knows how to keep his dribble alive deep in the paint, has an ability to back people down and push them off him to get off clean mid-rangers, and he's a capable passer with the ball in his hands who has shown the ability to make some advanced reads. He can play right away in the league and you'd expect him to not make a mess with the ball in his hands late in the shot clock. With some attention to his body to max out his athleticism, you could see him being a solid 3 in the league for a decade and maybe some day taking on occasional ball-handling abilities.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1647 » by Monix » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:00 pm

Reed is a less athletic Stromile Swift

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Post#1648 » by BostonCouchGM » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:41 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:More mocks and rumours are linking us to Saddiq Bey should we stay at #11. Can anyone convince me that he's the best choice at that slot? I think he's solid, and his character by all accounts checks out. I even like (though don't quite see) the Middleton / Prince comparisons. But is he far from what he will be? Couldn't we get a pick with a higher ceiling? Sell me on him, please. I don't know enough about him to appreciate room for growth on top of what he brings.


sorry, can't help you. I think his listed 6'8" height isn't close to reality. I wouldn't be surprised if he's sub 6'5" in socks. His release is slow and low. I don't think he'll be a scrub but he won't be much more than the 4th or 5th best player on a championship team imho. Nesmith, Vassell, Woodard, Poku or even Tyler Bey seem more likely than him.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1649 » by Fischella » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:19 pm

Reed is so bad lol, mid to late 2nd flyer
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1650 » by The-Power » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:17 pm

The defensive numbers comparison between Paul Reed and Dewayne Dedmon in their Junior season is eerily close fwiw.

Reed vs. Dedmon

DRB%: 25.9 vs. 26.6
STL%: 3.3 vs. 2.9
BLK%: 9.7 vs. 10.0
DRTG: 88.8 vs. 89.8
DBPM: 4.2 vs. 5.2

Height (w/o): 6'8.5'' vs. 6'10''
Stand. Reach: 9'1.5'' vs. 9'1''
Wingspan: 7'2'' vs. 7'4''
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1651 » by karkinos » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:34 am

chaimer wrote:
karkinos wrote:anthony edwards over/under 1.5 draft position (under 1.5 = #1 pick overall)

i'm betting on the over -130 (for those interested, under is about +108)

looking for an onyeka top 5 prop but can't find one.


you like Edwards over even after yesterday's reports about other teams operating as if Edwards goes to Wolves?

i never liked edwards for minny *shrug*
overall i'm pretty down on him as a t5 prospect. i was predicting him to slide rather than to stay in the t3 rumors
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1652 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:47 am

I'm taking a big ol dookie on managements doorstep if we take Ball #1.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1653 » by CalL » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:09 pm

My personal top 10 talents in this draft:
Edwards
Wiseman
Haliburton
Hayes
Okoro
Okongwu
Toppin
Vassell
Bane
Avdija/McDaniels

Sleepers: Tillie, Stanley

I really don't get why many people are high on Ball. What makes people think that he will turn out better than his brother?

If i remember correctly, most people had Mannion, Green and Anthony in the top 10 just a year ago ... i guess a lot can happen in one year.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1654 » by CalL » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:17 pm

EMG518 wrote:Just heard Jonathon Givony say the top 3 picks should be Lamelo Ball at 1, Okongwu at 2 and Okoro at 3. I could be completely wrong but that is the worst top 3 I have ever seen.


There have been tons of draft with only one decent/good (all-star) player in the top 3, so if one of Ball/Okongwu/Okoro becomes an all-star, it would be pretty much a "normal" top 3.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1655 » by Roddy B for 3 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:46 pm

Can anyone tell me about Marko Simonović?

It seems like Tankathon just added him this week.

They might know someone is going to draft him, does anyone know about his compotition level?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1656 » by Stillwater » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:17 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:Can anyone tell me about Marko Simonović?

It seems like Tankathon just added him this week.

They might know someone is going to draft him, does anyone know about his compotition level?

Poor mans Sabonis if brought over right away but probably stays overseas . underrated offensive skillset
lacks elite measurables and loft so may struggle to defend but has solid frame for adding muscle etc.
good stash pickup late first early 2nd
he is getting drafted too many scrubs will get picked in 2nd round for a prospect of his upside to go UDFA
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1657 » by jman3134 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:10 am

DaPessimist wrote:I don't understand all the LaMelo Ball hype. ESPN trying to claim he's the best player in the draft, and all they show are clips of him throwing the ball ahead in transition (just like his brother). His game is just like his brothers, only he's a worse shooter and defender. :crazy:


False. He has an excellent feel for the game and is a way better overall scorer than his brother. His shot will develop.

He already looks great in open competition against NBA players - very much belongs and has for some time. I think he has the best shot to be the top prospect in this draft and agree with Givony there. In terms of elite upside, there are guys who can surpass them, but that will require further development.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1658 » by jman3134 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:12 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Why isn't Paul Reed a guaranteed first rounder?


Solid athlete but not incredibly fluid with the ball in his hands, low energy level on offense, doesn't really make anyone around him better. He is the epitome of what a modern big man is supposed to look like, but has incredibly poor intangibles on offense. He doesn't elevate anyone around him, despite his decent tools. He was picked where he should have been picked.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#1659 » by karkinos » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:58 am

karkinos wrote:i think immanuel quickley is getting underrated. he has a defined role and is ahead of the curve compared to most when it comes to catch and shoot. his wingspan is definitely above average. everyone has this guy in the second round and i think he's a first round talent with a high floor.


lets gooooooooo

i def missed with the gamble on the #1 pick but super stoked for quickley

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