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Re: James Bouknight 

Post#81 » by Charm » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:12 pm

NYCbeadyrae wrote:Bouknight is going top 7, maybe top 5. In front of scouts yesterday he hit 19 straight 3s and cleared a 63 inch box. There’s no way he’s getting out of mid lottery. If they want devin Booker he is the closest thing.



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Post#82 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:04 am

NYCbeadyrae wrote:Bouknight is going top 7, maybe top 5. In front of scouts yesterday he hit 19 straight 3s and cleared a 63 inch box. There’s no way he’s getting out of mid lottery. If they want devin Booker he is the closest thing.


That's n ice that he made 19 straight 3's standing still, catch and shoot with no one guarding him. But he only shot 29% from 3 this past season and is a ball-stopper isn't that great defensively, average size for his position.
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Post#83 » by Kalela » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:26 am

I watched him all season. He is legit. He reminds me more of Jamal Murray, a slightly bigger version, than Booker.
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Post#84 » by Stillwater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:44 pm

NYCbeadyrae wrote:Bouknight is going top 7, maybe top 5. In front of scouts yesterday he hit 19 straight 3s and cleared a 63 inch box. There’s no way he’s getting out of mid lottery. If they want devin Booker he is the closest thing.


Garland did the same thing in an empty gym and struggled his entire rookie season. But those %'s are going to help him on draft day a little based on how poorly his % from 3 was when defended. His athletic ability and ball handling are what impressed me as well as post up ability for a guard. He in a lot of ways seems like a Romeo Langford pick.
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Re: James Bouknight 

Post#85 » by DCasey91 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:37 pm

Kalela wrote:I watched him all season. He is legit. He reminds me more of Jamal Murray, a slightly bigger version, than Booker.


My straight up comp for him is skinny Jamal Murray with less shooting polish. Murray was actually the bigger one, had some weight behind him in college but their game styles are super duper similar especially when coming off PNR action. Swear his pull up is exactly like Murray is.

Boogie Bouknight won’t go to far down in the pecking order. Has the potential to be the second best scorer in this year’s draft.
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Post#86 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:45 pm

i think Book/Murray might be the high end outcomes for him, he's obviously a stud scorer but his passing chops are almost nonexistent for a guard, Murray/Book developed a little earlier in that area, so where he ends up in the NBA imo is gonna depend a lot on how his passing and ability to run a half-court set is gonna develop in the NBA.

i'd go a more mid range comp for him until I see otherwise which to me is a Jordan Clarkson type, but if he develops more on-ball in other ways than just scoring I can see him landing somewhere higher than that.
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Post#87 » by DCasey91 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:i think Book/Murray might be the high end outcomes for him, he's obviously a stud scorer but his passing chops are almost nonexistent for a guard, Murray/Book developed a little earlier in that area, so where he ends up in the NBA imo is gonna depend a lot on how his passing and ability to run a half-court set is gonna develop in the NBA.

i'd go a more mid range comp for him until I see otherwise which to me is a Jordan Clarkson type, but if he develops more on-ball in other ways than just scoring I can see him landing somewhere higher than that.


I agree about the high end outcome 100%. He’s one of the eleven of my favs in this years draft. But Murray was certainly the better prospect coming out from what I remember watching him. NBA size, NBA shot, NBA scoring had big big college games too, clinical. Should learn to take less stock on injury concerns to smaller guys (local national sport should remind me never to to let better prospects go too far down the rank because of injury they are ranked that high for a reason).

A middling outcome better then Clarkson but not quite as good as Booker/Murray is a fair ceiling to put on Bouknight. But I’ve been on his bandwagon since the start pre injury lol.

Also Booker had the reigns very early on so what he’s doing now is nothing new to him just higher stakes. Kills us the sixers every-time we verse him lol
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Post#88 » by clyde21 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:15 am

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clyde21 wrote:i think Book/Murray might be the high end outcomes for him, he's obviously a stud scorer but his passing chops are almost nonexistent for a guard, Murray/Book developed a little earlier in that area, so where he ends up in the NBA imo is gonna depend a lot on how his passing and ability to run a half-court set is gonna develop in the NBA.

i'd go a more mid range comp for him until I see otherwise which to me is a Jordan Clarkson type, but if he develops more on-ball in other ways than just scoring I can see him landing somewhere higher than that.


I agree about the high end outcome 100%. He’s one of the eleven of my favs in this years draft. But Murray was certainly the better prospect coming out from what I remember watching him. NBA size, NBA shot, NBA scoring had big big college games too, clinical. Should learn to take less stock on injury concerns to smaller guys (local national sport should remind me never to to let better prospects go too far down the rank because of injury they are ranked that high for a reason).

A middling outcome better then Clarkson but not quite as good as Booker/Murray is a fair ceiling to put on Bouknight. But I’ve been on his bandwagon since the start pre injury lol.

Also Booker had the reigns very early on so what he’s doing now is nothing new to him just higher stakes. Kills us the sixers every-time we verse him lol


both Book/Murray I think were more combo guardish than Bouk, Bouk right now to me is purely a scorer, and in today's NBA pure scoring guards that don't necessarily have any passing or team management chops are relegated to the bench as 6th man types...unless your name is a Beal or something and you're just an absurd scorer.

also Book was a whole 2 yrs younger coming out, Murray 1 yr younger, not a huge thing but the fact that there were better playmakers while also being younger I think makes think Bouknight closer to Clarkson than he is Book or Murray. should also be noted that Bouknight has the worst 3pt % and FT% than both Murray/Book, but a better FT rate than both...much more in line with Clarkson's FT rate coming out actually.
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Post#89 » by MemphisX » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:39 am

clyde21 wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i think Book/Murray might be the high end outcomes for him, he's obviously a stud scorer but his passing chops are almost nonexistent for a guard, Murray/Book developed a little earlier in that area, so where he ends up in the NBA imo is gonna depend a lot on how his passing and ability to run a half-court set is gonna develop in the NBA.

i'd go a more mid range comp for him until I see otherwise which to me is a Jordan Clarkson type, but if he develops more on-ball in other ways than just scoring I can see him landing somewhere higher than that.


I agree about the high end outcome 100%. He’s one of the eleven of my favs in this years draft. But Murray was certainly the better prospect coming out from what I remember watching him. NBA size, NBA shot, NBA scoring had big big college games too, clinical. Should learn to take less stock on injury concerns to smaller guys (local national sport should remind me never to to let better prospects go too far down the rank because of injury they are ranked that high for a reason).

A middling outcome better then Clarkson but not quite as good as Booker/Murray is a fair ceiling to put on Bouknight. But I’ve been on his bandwagon since the start pre injury lol.

Also Booker had the reigns very early on so what he’s doing now is nothing new to him just higher stakes. Kills us the sixers every-time we verse him lol


both Book/Murray I think were more combo guardish than Bouk, Bouk right now to me is purely a scorer, and in today's NBA pure scoring guards that don't necessarily have any passing or team management chops are relegated to the bench as 6th man types...unless your name is a Beal or something and you're just an absurd scorer.

also Book was a whole 2 yrs younger coming out, Murray 1 yr younger, not a huge thing but the fact that there were better playmakers while also being younger I think makes think Bouknight closer to Clarkson than he is Book or Murray. should also be noted that Bouknight has the worst 3pt % and FT% than both Murray/Book, but a better FT rate than both...much more in line with Clarkson's FT rate coming out actually.



Comparisons are crap for this class. These guys played in an unprecedented pandemic and all that goes with it including a small sample size. Add in Bouk's injury and it is even more of a mystery box.
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Re: James Bouknight 

Post#90 » by DCasey91 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:41 am

Comparisons are there for a gauge doesn’t have to be identical just what kind of role and prospect game wise/style transfer into the NBA.

Sure disaster situation but there’s a lot of film to watch on these prospects.
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Post#91 » by clyde21 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:50 am

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clyde21 wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
I agree about the high end outcome 100%. He’s one of the eleven of my favs in this years draft. But Murray was certainly the better prospect coming out from what I remember watching him. NBA size, NBA shot, NBA scoring had big big college games too, clinical. Should learn to take less stock on injury concerns to smaller guys (local national sport should remind me never to to let better prospects go too far down the rank because of injury they are ranked that high for a reason).

A middling outcome better then Clarkson but not quite as good as Booker/Murray is a fair ceiling to put on Bouknight. But I’ve been on his bandwagon since the start pre injury lol.

Also Booker had the reigns very early on so what he’s doing now is nothing new to him just higher stakes. Kills us the sixers every-time we verse him lol


both Book/Murray I think were more combo guardish than Bouk, Bouk right now to me is purely a scorer, and in today's NBA pure scoring guards that don't necessarily have any passing or team management chops are relegated to the bench as 6th man types...unless your name is a Beal or something and you're just an absurd scorer.

also Book was a whole 2 yrs younger coming out, Murray 1 yr younger, not a huge thing but the fact that there were better playmakers while also being younger I think makes think Bouknight closer to Clarkson than he is Book or Murray. should also be noted that Bouknight has the worst 3pt % and FT% than both Murray/Book, but a better FT rate than both...much more in line with Clarkson's FT rate coming out actually.



Comparisons are crap for this class. These guys played in an unprecedented pandemic and all that goes with it including a small sample size. Add in Bouk's injury and it is even more of a mystery box.


not sure what the pandemic has to do with FT rates.
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Post#96 » by gorz » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:04 pm

Hes my pick for steal of the draft. Similar game to Booker/Murray but much more athletic than them. Booker is bit of an anomaly..we are seeing him now from hindsight but he wasn't rated that highly at the time and just so happened to far exceed ppl's expectations.
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Post#97 » by EvanZ » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:15 pm

gorz wrote:Hes my pick for steal of the draft. Similar game to Booker/Murray but much more athletic than them. Booker is bit of an anomaly..we are seeing him now from hindsight but he wasn't rated that highly at the time and just so happened to far exceed ppl's expectations.


I had Booker 8th on my board in that draft.
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Post#98 » by NYCbeadyrae » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:36 am

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gorz wrote:Hes my pick for steal of the draft. Similar game to Booker/Murray but much more athletic than them. Booker is bit of an anomaly..we are seeing him now from hindsight but he wasn't rated that highly at the time and just so happened to far exceed ppl's expectations.


I had Booker 8th on my board in that draft.

I don’t think Bouknight makes it past 8. I can see him going as high as 5. Knicks may trade up, both warriors and magic have interest and need.
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Post#99 » by EvanZ » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:14 am

NYCbeadyrae wrote:
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gorz wrote:Hes my pick for steal of the draft. Similar game to Booker/Murray but much more athletic than them. Booker is bit of an anomaly..we are seeing him now from hindsight but he wasn't rated that highly at the time and just so happened to far exceed ppl's expectations.


I had Booker 8th on my board in that draft.

I don’t think Bouknight makes it past 8. I can see him going as high as 5. Knicks may trade up, both warriors and magic have interest and need.


From what I've heard he's not making it past GS if they keep the pick.
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Post#100 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:13 pm

NYCbeadyrae wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
gorz wrote:Hes my pick for steal of the draft. Similar game to Booker/Murray but much more athletic than them. Booker is bit of an anomaly..we are seeing him now from hindsight but he wasn't rated that highly at the time and just so happened to far exceed ppl's expectations.


I had Booker 8th on my board in that draft.

I don’t think Bouknight makes it past 8. I can see him going as high as 5. Knicks may trade up, both warriors and magic have interest and need.


If GS stays at 7 then it’s gotta be Bouknight Moody for 7&8 picks. The order is TBD.
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