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Re: 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1121 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:49 am

VCfor3 wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/1

Givony has:

1. Cade
2.Mobley
3.Green
4.Suggs
5.Kuminga

To the poster doubting Kumingas defense for whatever reason. He has Kuminga projected as a two-way Forward similar to everyone else. Also says "- Has excellent defensive potential when engaged. Strong enough to defend big men but has quick-enough feet to stay in front of guards." You might want to rethink your hot take on him.



Goodness, they have Kispert at 11 now. Was hoping he would be a definite fall back for the Grizzlies.

Judging from the last two drafts, he'll drop some due to his older age and Memphis will find a way to scoop him up.


i dunno, Cam Johnson went 11th in 19 and he was even older.
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Post#1122 » by Catchall » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:39 am

buzzkilloton wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/1

Givony has:

1. Cade
2.Mobley
3.Green
4.Suggs
5.Kuminga

To the poster doubting Kumingas defense for whatever reason. He has Kuminga projected as a two-way Forward similar to everyone else. Also says "- Has excellent defensive potential when engaged. Strong enough to defend big men but has quick-enough feet to stay in front of guards." You might want to rethink your hot take on him.


This is a good list, recognizing Kai Jones, Marcus Bagley and Franz Wagner as first rounders. A bit low on Jared Butler though. Also low on Scottie Lewis, imo.
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Post#1123 » by Catchall » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:42 am

clyde21 wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:
MemphisX wrote:

Goodness, they have Kispert at 11 now. Was hoping he would be a definite fall back for the Grizzlies.

Judging from the last two drafts, he'll drop some due to his older age and Memphis will find a way to scoop him up.


i dunno, Cam Johnson went 11th in 19 and he was even older.


Shooters with some size and mobility are at a premium in today's league.
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Post#1124 » by MemphisX » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:50 am

So Franz Wagner is a lottery pick correct?
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Post#1125 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:55 am

MemphisX wrote:So Franz Wagner is a lottery pick correct?


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Post#1126 » by cgf » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:59 am

How many lottery picks are there going to be this year? :lol:
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Post#1127 » by Catchall » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:40 am

MemphisX wrote:So Franz Wagner is a lottery pick correct?


I have him mid 1st-round, more likely 20s. I think he'd be a decent pickup for the Jazz. I want to see what he can do handling the ball more though. That's where he'd add more upside. I'm not sure why Roko Prkacin would be considered a better prospect right now, tbh.

One guy who might have sleeper lottery potential is Kai Jones at Texas.
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Post#1128 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:07 am

i have Franz higher than Roko right now but the intrigue behind Roko is he has some secondary playmaking ability kinda like Deni, except Roko is a full year younger than Deni at same stage

Franz is a better shooter than both, don't see the comp between Franz and Roko tho at this point.
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Post#1129 » by MemphisX » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:44 am

I would say Franz is what people thought Jalen Johnson would be at Duke and he is about the same age as Jalen Johnson.
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Post#1130 » by nolang1 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:15 pm

MemphisX wrote:I would say Franz is what people thought Jalen Johnson would be at Duke and he is about the same age as Jalen Johnson.


Yeah he should be right there after that top 5. It should be pretty straightforward as he's a 6'9 freshman-aged wing who's the best all-around player on a top 5 team.
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Post#1131 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:35 pm

Jalen Johnson should still be a top10 pick easy, despite the rough year overall for that Duke team...K is not interested in coaching at this point in his career or putting any of his top recruits in a position to win
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Post#1132 » by Reeko » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:28 am

Aside from Shannon Jr, I really like McCullar Jr out of Texas Tech although it seems unlikely that he declares this year. Not sure if Mac McClung is an NBA player and just as I was about to post this he hits a game winner against Texas.
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Post#1133 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:36 pm

Not thread worthy yet, but look out for Mustapha Amzil at Dayton.
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Post#1134 » by cgf » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:51 pm

Jared Butler or David Duke Jr?
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Post#1136 » by Marcus » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:27 pm

Is it unanimous that Cade has the highest floor? And who has the highest ceiling in this class?
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Post#1137 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:55 pm

Green has the highest ceiling IMO, Suggs/Boston pretty up there too
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Post#1138 » by Fischella » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:45 pm

Marcus wrote:Is it unanimous that Cade has the highest floor? And who has the highest ceiling in this class?

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Post#1139 » by nolang1 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:13 am

Marcus wrote:Is it unanimous that Cade has the highest floor? And who has the highest ceiling in this class?


As far as it concerns 18/19 year old players, I’d assume most people weigh ceiling more than floor to the point that if they have Cade as the #1 pick, they think he has the highest upside as well.

I could concoct scenarios where Barnes with an comparable outside shot to Cade or Mobley with the ability to bulk up to 250 and not lose quickness would be better players, but those are pretty out there. I think people who considered Edwards a higher upside choice than Ball could make a similar argument for Kuminga over Cade where the defense and scoring make up for less playmaking.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#1140 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:15 am

Kispert is awesome, probably have a long NBA career

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