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How does he project? What type of player is he in the league ultimately?
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One of the potential steals of this year NBA Draft. He has NBA friendly offensive game and could contribute right away. Also this guy keeps pointing out , how Petrusev is not athletic , not explosive or he lacks athleticism , yet in this video he made, you can see that he's a pretty good athlete, very quick on his feet and can really jump, dunking, alley op dunks etc. , his biggest weakness I think is rebounding, he could improve there , but he was sharing the floor with another 6"11 tall player Simonovic , so his rebounding wasn't very impressive this season, 7.5 per game.
Another one video ,longer. He could be the good fit on a lot of teams that need the scoring from the center position.
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One of the potential steals of this year NBA Draft. He has NBA friendly offensive game and could contribute right away. Also this guy keeps pointing out , how Petrusev is not athletic , not explosive or he lacks athleticism , yet in this video he made, you can see that he's a pretty good athlete, very quick on his feet and can really jump, dunking, alley op dunks etc. , his biggest weakness I think is rebounding, he could improve there , but he was sharing the floor with another 6"11 tall player Simonovic , so his rebounding wasn't very impressive this season, 7.5 per game.
Another one video ,longer. He could be the good fit on a lot of teams that need the scoring from the center position.
I’ve been on sold on Filip for ages. His mobility, game, fundamentals is so sound for NBA basketball.
Not worried about his athleticism he moves very well for a big nothing sloppy.
Say per average draft there’s like 15 prospects (maybe less?) that actually plays meaningful years in the NBA.
I see Filip playing for a long time in the NBA. I mean a legitimate stretch big/rollman/post up/pnr/pick n pop whose super smart will always find a home. Backup big for years type deal.
Wherever his draft position is I’m betting he’ll outdo it.
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I agree. And wherever he played he was productive player, FIBA Youth competitions, College basketball, professional, with the National team, somebody will draft a very good player that can help right away. I hope he ends up with the teams like the Kings or Hornets , they need some size that can play. You can find lots of hidden gems later in the Draft , its up to the teams to give those players a chance to show what they can do, and if it is given to Petrusev, he will make best of it, I am sure.
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How do you guys rank these prospects
Springer
K.Johnson
J.Johnson
Moody
Barnes
Boukight
The Raptors have locked up the 7th pick and I'm having a hard time separating these guys. They all have their indviudal strengths and weaknesses. I'm leaning Moody, Springer and K. Johnson because the Raps desprately need a shot creator and go-to scorer. But we also value analytics/productions and maturity. So it makes me want to remove both Johnsons. Honestly I'm looking for high ceiling/high reward for our pick. I'm not even opposed to trading back and getting someone like Usman or Kai and Cooper or Ziaire. (2 for 1)
Springer
K.Johnson
J.Johnson
Moody
Barnes
Boukight
The Raptors have locked up the 7th pick and I'm having a hard time separating these guys. They all have their indviudal strengths and weaknesses. I'm leaning Moody, Springer and K. Johnson because the Raps desprately need a shot creator and go-to scorer. But we also value analytics/productions and maturity. So it makes me want to remove both Johnsons. Honestly I'm looking for high ceiling/high reward for our pick. I'm not even opposed to trading back and getting someone like Usman or Kai and Cooper or Ziaire. (2 for 1)
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God Squad wrote:How do you guys rank these prospects
Springer
K.Johnson
J.Johnson
Moody
Barnes
Boukight
The Raptors have locked up the 7th pick and I'm having a hard time separating these guys. They all have their indviudal strengths and weaknesses. I'm leaning Moody, Springer and K. Johnson because the Raps desprately need a shot creator and go-to scorer. But we also value analytics/productions and maturity. So it makes me want to remove both Johnsons. Honestly I'm looking for high ceiling/high reward for our pick. I'm not even opposed to trading back and getting someone like Usman or Kai and Cooper or Ziaire. (2 for 1)
Just to clarify, the Raptors have locked up the 7th best lottery odds, not the 7th pick.
As for your list of players, you're right, they all have different strengths and weakness, and are very different players. So a lot of team decisions will be based on their development system, who fits in with what they want, and who they feel confident they will be able to work with to maximize their strengths and improve their weaknesses. Much of that depends on things it's hard for us to know, such as individual workouts and interviews with players, coaches, etc.
That said, right now I would probably rank them this way:
Keon Johnson
Jalen Johnson
Barnes
Moody
Springer
Bouknight
The big question for Keon is his shot. If he becomes consistent with that, it'll help unlock a lot of the rest of his game. He's already got the athleticism and drive game. And his defence has the potential to be elite. I'm optimistic that his shot will come along, but if others aren't, I could see why they would rank him much lower.
The big questions with Jalen Johnson are with attitude and work ethic, in my opinion. So possibly more than any other prospect, his draft position will probably depend on interviews and reports on his character.
Barnes has a lot of skills, but I have big questions about his ability on the offensive side in the half court. I would also think you might want to add Franz Wagner to your list. Michigan played Florida State this year, so we actually have evidence of Barnes and Wagner playing each other (and often directly playing against each other). Even though Wagner was a sophomore and Barnes a freshman, they're the same age, and knowing that, I'm not sure how anyone could have come away from watching that game thinking that Barnes was a better prospect.
As for the others, I think Moody is a high floor-low ceiling player. I'm confident he'll be an NBA player, I'm just not sure he moves the needle much for many teams. Same with Springer. And I'm pretty down on Bouknight. When I watch him I see a black hole of a player that doesn't read the floor well at either end of the court, and whose one elite skill in college (scoring off the dribble) might not translate the same way against NBA defences because he has a high dribble that he pulls up high into a dribble pocket for his change of direction move, and I worry that athletic NBA defenders will get their hands on the ball a lot against him.
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How do we feel about Keon Johnson? I know he is not a great three point shooter, but he looks good in the midrange and was not a poor freethrow shooter (but not great, 70%). I feel like fixing his feet on the release of his three point shot will help him a lot, but it doesn't look terrible overall. And then there is the athleticism. If you told me he became a top 3 player from this draft, I don't think I'd be surprised.
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babyjax13 wrote:How do we feel about Keon Johnson? I know he is not a great three point shooter, but he looks good in the midrange and was not a poor freethrow shooter (but not great, 70%). I feel like fixing his feet on the release of his three point shot will help him a lot, but it doesn't look terrible overall. And then there is the athleticism. If you told me he became a top 3 player from this draft, I don't think I'd be surprised.
Yeah, he is a swing pick this year. Could totally be a top player in this draft but could also stall out and be picked to high to his final abilities. So much rides on his shot. Hard player to evaluate IMO.
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this is the dead time where people start to really overthink things
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I think Bouknight is the unexpected riser on draft and is picked around 10.
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If you are solved on Ja Morant's pg skills and handles, what more of Jalen Green..this will be the clincher in his development..
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Do you guys think Josh Primo is going first round? Why isn’t he being talked about more in general? He’s probably still growing also and could be like 6’8 before it’s all said and done
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azcatz11 wrote:Do you guys think Josh Primo is going first round? Why isn’t he being talked about more in general? He’s probably still growing also and could be like 6’8 before it’s all said and done
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clyde21 wrote:azcatz11 wrote:Do you guys think Josh Primo is going first round? Why isn’t he being talked about more in general? He’s probably still growing also and could be like 6’8 before it’s all said and done
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Nice - I watched Alabama a few times this past year and his length really stood out to me. Do you see him as a 3 & D type guy?
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Can someone explain to me why Trey Murphy is universally a really late 1st/early second guy, and not in the 15-25 range anywhere? I don't watch much college ball and usually just try to play catchup later, but I like his game at the next level
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K_chile22 wrote:Can someone explain to me why Trey Murphy is universally a really late 1st/early second guy, and not in the 15-25 range anywhere? I don't watch much college ball and usually just try to play catchup later, but I like his game at the next level
He's probably seen as a low ceiling guy
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WargamesX wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Can someone explain to me why Trey Murphy is universally a really late 1st/early second guy, and not in the 15-25 range anywhere? I don't watch much college ball and usually just try to play catchup later, but I like his game at the next level
He's probably seen as a low ceiling guy
He doesn't do a lot other than shoot - which he does very well. Also, I think he was considered the 3rd most reliable player on UVA - behind both Hauser and Huff - that has a psychological effect. I think all 3 are underrated.
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