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Post#241 » by EMG518 » Sun Jul 5, 2020 10:40 pm

I don't get why so many people are so high on Scottie Lewis
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Post#242 » by clyde21 » Sun Jul 5, 2020 10:44 pm

EMG518 wrote:I don't get why so many people are so high on Scottie Lewis


tier 1 athlete with an elite physical profile who's an elite multi-position wing defender who shoots 3s at 40% clip and hits 92% of his FTs

yea, no idea why, personally I'm flabbergasted
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Post#243 » by EMG518 » Sun Jul 5, 2020 10:50 pm

clyde21 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I don't get why so many people are so high on Scottie Lewis


tier 1 athlete with an elite physical profile who's an elite multi-position wing defender who shoots 3s at 40% clip and hits 92% of his FTs

yea, no idea why, personally I'm flabbergasted


Interesting, didn't realize he was shooting at such a high clip in conference play. I might have to rewatch some of his play. I still think the rankings from what I remember watching seem rich but that definitely makes him more intriguing. I don't remember much in the form of creating for himself and others, that is what I personally look for in a wing if drafting them that high.
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Post#244 » by clyde21 » Sun Jul 5, 2020 11:00 pm

if Lewis was also a legit creator he'd be the #1 prospect in the entire class
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Post#245 » by EMG518 » Sun Jul 5, 2020 11:19 pm

You have him ranked 6th though. Is that a testament to you believing this draft is weak or your belief in him as a prospect?, from what I have heard this is supposed to be a relatively good draft which would mean the latter. I personally wouldn't draft someone 6th in a relatively good draft as a wing player without the ability to create for oneself or others.
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Post#246 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 1:11 am

EMG518 wrote:You have him ranked 6th though. Is that a testament to you believing this draft is weak or your belief in him as a prospect?, from what I have heard this is supposed to be a relatively good draft which would mean the latter. I personally wouldn't draft someone 6th in a relatively good draft as a wing player without the ability to create for oneself or others.


give me the list of wings in the NBA today that can create for themselves and others
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Post#247 » by EMG518 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 7:14 pm

clyde21 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:You have him ranked 6th though. Is that a testament to you believing this draft is weak or your belief in him as a prospect?, from what I have heard this is supposed to be a relatively good draft which would mean the latter. I personally wouldn't draft someone 6th in a relatively good draft as a wing player without the ability to create for oneself or others.


give me the list of wings in the NBA today that can create for themselves and others


"Create for oneself or others" I want one of those atleast in my wing player if I am taking them 6th.
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Post#248 » by getrichordie » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:06 pm

Yeah there is quite a lot of wings who can create in some fashion.
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Post#249 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:25 pm

getrichordie wrote:Yeah there is quite a lot of wings who can create in some fashion.


should be a pretty easy list then, go ahead
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Post#250 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:26 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:You have him ranked 6th though. Is that a testament to you believing this draft is weak or your belief in him as a prospect?, from what I have heard this is supposed to be a relatively good draft which would mean the latter. I personally wouldn't draft someone 6th in a relatively good draft as a wing player without the ability to create for oneself or others.


give me the list of wings in the NBA today that can create for themselves and others


"Create for oneself or others" I want one of those atleast in my wing player if I am taking them 6th.


if Lewis can also create on top of his game already he's not dropping to 6th lol
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Post#251 » by Patsfan1081 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 11:21 pm

clyde21 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Yeah there is quite a lot of wings who can create in some fashion.


should be a pretty easy list then, go ahead


Boston has two in Hayward and Tatum, and I thought Langford was considered coming out as being able to also.
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Post#252 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 6, 2020 11:46 pm

clyde21 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Yeah there is quite a lot of wings who can create in some fashion.


should be a pretty easy list then, go ahead


just cause you got me thinking now

Luka
Bron
PG
Claw
KD
Tatum
Hayward
Giannis (if you want to play him there)
Ben (if you want to play him there)
Jimmy Butler
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Post#253 » by EMG518 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 11:58 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Yeah there is quite a lot of wings who can create in some fashion.


should be a pretty easy list then, go ahead


just cause you got me thinking now

Luka
Bron
PG
Claw
KD
Tatum
Hayward
Giannis (if you want to play him there)
Ben (if you want to play him there)
Jimmy Butler
Demar
B.I.


Just adding on players that either can create for themselves or others.

Like Patsfan said Tatum and Hayward, a few more

Levert
Lavine
Harden
Warren
Middleton
Ingram
Holiday
Booker
McCollum
Hield
Beal
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Post#254 » by clyde21 » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:21 am

half of those guys are not wings, the other half developed playmaking/creation well into their careers

Jimmy Butler was never that dude coming out of college, neither was Giannis, or Klaw

the only guys that were drafted as great creation guys are:

LeBron, Luka, KD, Tatum and maybe PG3 really

so, if you're only drafting a wing in the top 10 if he's the next Luka or LeBron or KD or Klaw good luck
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Post#255 » by TheBunk » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:15 am

I'd love to hear more opinions on Evan Mobley

From what i've seen, he looks like a sure thing. Elite feel and brain and still a pretty skinny kid with lots of room for growth physically.
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Post#256 » by GimmeDat » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:34 am

I know we're not into self-plugs here, and that's not my intention with posting this, but given there's not much clearly available footage of him, I feel like you guys may appreciate seeing this. Over the last month I've watched a bunch of Giddey games and compiled a bunch of footage on him, and with that helped to put this video together.

It's nothing crazy in depth, but gives you a good overview of what he's like as a player and why he's being considered a 1st round guy for next year.

Similar plans for a video with Mojave King, as well.

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Post#257 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:46 am

GimmeDat wrote:I know we're not into self-plugs here, and that's not my intention with posting this, but given there's not much clearly available footage of him, I feel like you guys may appreciate seeing this. Over the last month I've watched a bunch of Giddey games and compiled a bunch of footage on him, and with that helped to put this video together.

It's nothing crazy in depth, but gives you a good overview of what he's like as a player and why he's being considered a 1st round guy for next year.

Similar plans for a video with Mojave King, as well.

;t=17s

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Post#258 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:50 am

TheBunk wrote:I'd love to hear more opinions on Evan Mobley

From what i've seen, he looks like a sure thing. Elite feel and brain and still a pretty skinny kid with lots of room for growth physically.


I personally love the kid and his potential i think everything depends on if he can add effect weight without losing the mobility (bars btw). Active around the cup. Not afraid of contact. Some passing, ball-handling, and shooting to build on. I think there's KG potential there once he fills out and pans out.
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Post#259 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:52 am

clyde21 wrote:half of those guys are not wings, the other half developed playmaking/creation well into their careers

Jimmy Butler was never that dude coming out of college, neither was Giannis, or Klaw

the only guys that were drafted as great creation guys are:

LeBron, Luka, KD, Tatum and maybe PG3 really

so, if you're only drafting a wing in the top 10 if he's the next Luka or LeBron or KD or Klaw good luck


Where do you have Scottie's ceiling?
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Post#260 » by clyde21 » Tue Jul 7, 2020 2:08 am

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clyde21 wrote:half of those guys are not wings, the other half developed playmaking/creation well into their careers

Jimmy Butler was never that dude coming out of college, neither was Giannis, or Klaw

the only guys that were drafted as great creation guys are:

LeBron, Luka, KD, Tatum and maybe PG3 really

so, if you're only drafting a wing in the top 10 if he's the next Luka or LeBron or KD or Klaw good luck


Where do you have Scottie's ceiling?


i think it's pretty high up there, i think he's got DPOY potential that can hit 3s, Covington/Thybulle type is probably his baseline, except he's much more athletic than either
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