2021 NBA Draft

doordoor123 · Post #341 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:35 am

This class is reminding me of what good prospects are. These guys are legitimately good. I think this might be a really good draft.

Post #342 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:30 am

Marcus wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Marcus wrote:
so i had to learn this the hard way through watching him in full games but Cade is going to surprise folks and be more athletic than he'll get credit for. it's not elite by any means whatsoever but his timing, angles, and ability to chew space closes the gap with the lack of elite explosion. Best part of it all is what you just pointed out, because he moves so fluidly, sees the game frames ahead, and has the skill to match he takes full advantage of not having that athletic advantage. When he gets dropped off around some NBA talent next year i don't think it takes long to see a difference maker.
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What do you think of Jalen Johnson?

I'm trying to figure out why someone with his body, skill, and feel is consistently mocked behind players with way worse frames (Green and Boston).

I love JJ on paper, he's my favorite prototype player wise. Main knocks on him are and have been motor on defense and that switch. With his size and skill he should be a guy that goes out there and absolutely takes over game in and game out and that doesn't happen. Jalen Green is a guy that you'd never worry about that with and having that level of dog does carry weight when the talent level is as high as his. With Boston i'd still like to see it so i'd likely attribute him leapfrogging over Johnson to Boston being seen as much as he was at Sierra Canyon and performing arguably the best on a fairly loaded team combined with JJ missing essentially the whole season. Personally i still have Terrance Clarke over Boston even though i think Brandon will have a better season and go higher in the draft. I think JJ if he shows some dog when necessary playing for Coach K he lands back in that top 3 mix like his talent should slot him. He needs to work on that jumper though.

Motor. It’s always motor. I should’ve guessed. Everything else about his game is so appealing.

Will look closer at Clarke, I haven’t spent much time with him.

BostonCouchGM · Post #343 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:16 am

I still don't see why people love Boston. He's definitely not a lottery talent in this loaded draft and I've seen people talk about him as a top 5 pick. Clarke is without a doubt a better prospect.

EMG518 · Post #344 » by **EMG518** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:42 am

Evan Mobley is clearly a beast

Watch on YouTube

clyde21 · Post #345 » by **clyde21** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:03 am

Mobley is so **** good

i had already moved him into T1 for me with Green/Cade, he's that good.

Jkam31 · Post #346 » by **Jkam31** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:03 am

EMG518 wrote:Evan Mobley is clearly a beast

Watch on YouTube

It looks like he’ll be great with his shot and a pick and roll player I don’t see this athleticism I was lead to believe however

NotMyKawhi · Post #347 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:14 am

Upperclass wrote:Jalen Green is far and away the best player in this class imo and probably best within the past 8 years (since AD)

nah, he's too passive to be great imo

reminds me a lot of rudy Gay. You probably just watched his highlights instead of the games.

God Squad · Post #348 » by **God Squad** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:08 am

EMG518 wrote:Evan Mobley is clearly a beast

Watch on YouTube

Looks to be the prototypical 4 in today's NBA.

big-shot-ROB · Post #349 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:28 am

Mobley is a 5.

The-Power · Post #350 » by **The-Power** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:44 pm

Mobley is incredibly skilled and fluid for a guy his size. But I have no idea why people had concerns about Wiseman's motor (which I've contended it actually quite good) whereas I haven't seen that issue come up as much with Mobley, who I believe is perhaps most held back by his motor. Or have I just missed that? I could also be wrong, haven't seen enough of him yet, but he seems to just float around in space too often.

CP War Hawks · Post #351 » by **CP War Hawks** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:06 pm

Marcus wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:OK, his handle while going full speed is ridiculous. I seent it.

so i had to learn this the hard way through watching him in full games but Cade is going to surprise folks and be more athletic than he'll get credit for. it's not elite by any means whatsoever but his timing, angles, and ability to chew space closes the gap with the lack of elite explosion. Best part of it all is what you just pointed out, because he moves so fluidly, sees the game frames ahead, and has the skill to match he takes full advantage of not having that athletic advantage. When he gets dropped off around some NBA talent next year i don't think it takes long to see a difference maker.

A wealthy man's Slo Mo? I'd be much obliged if we can get a weekly highlight package for the top 10 prospects in this draft. This draft could be a 2 in 1 without actually being a 2 for 1 draft. It really depends what the intl prospects offer us that are not Hayes or Deni level talents.

Post #352 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:23 pm

Mobley showed a little bit of everything last night. I'm impressed.

DirtyDez · Post #353 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:52 pm

Are we just gonna pretend USC wasn’t in OT with California Baptist?

clyde21 · Post #354 » by **clyde21** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:13 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Are we just gonna pretend USC wasn’t in OT with California Baptist?

...and?

clyde21 · Post #355 » by **clyde21** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:56 pm

Charles Bassey looks good, moving really well, looks lighter, quicker feet, just gotta stay healthy

Post #356 » by **Marcus** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:58 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:
Marcus wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:OK, his handle while going full speed is ridiculous. I seent it.

so i had to learn this the hard way through watching him in full games but Cade is going to surprise folks and be more athletic than he'll get credit for. it's not elite by any means whatsoever but his timing, angles, and ability to chew space closes the gap with the lack of elite explosion. Best part of it all is what you just pointed out, because he moves so fluidly, sees the game frames ahead, and has the skill to match he takes full advantage of not having that athletic advantage. When he gets dropped off around some NBA talent next year i don't think it takes long to see a difference maker.

A wealthy man's Slo Mo? I'd be much obliged if we can get a weekly highlight package for the top 10 prospects in this draft. This draft could be a 2 in 1 without actually being a 2 for 1 draft. It really depends what the intl prospects offer us that are not Hayes or Deni level talents.

I can see the comp but he should be much better than Kyle was. Tighter handle and he actually has speed in the open floor Kyle used for force at his stopping points while Cade uses bait, misdirection, and your balance against you. If you saw his first pull up he used the Durant rock as bait before opening space for a mid-range with a quick cross back the opposite direction once the defender planted and tried to cut angle. He's just smart with the ball so he doesn't need elite quicks. We see the same with Luka.

I'm sure there will be tons of clips all season. This is a class us draft heads have been waiting for. Stay tuned.

Post #357 » by **Marcus** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:58 pm

clyde21 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Are we just gonna pretend USC wasn’t in OT with California Baptist?

...and?

Won't lie. Was asking why the hell myself lol

Post #358 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm

Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Are we just gonna pretend USC wasn’t in OT with California Baptist?

...and?

Won't lie. Was asking why the hell myself lol

I can’t imagine any scout or nba team would look at his first college game and hold it against him that his team went to OT to beat a bad team.

Post #359 » by **Marcus** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:00 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
...and?

Won't lie. Was asking why the hell myself lol

I can’t imagine any scout or nba team would look at his first college game and hold it against him that his team went to OT to beat a bad team.

Oh Mobley is a completely separate convo. I wouldn't care if they went winless if he's doing what he needs to do. Just thought it was odd

Post #360 » by **Marcus** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:41 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
...and?

Won't lie. Was asking why the hell myself lol

I can’t imagine any scout or nba team would look at his first college game and hold it against him that his team went to OT to beat a bad team.

Sidenote. I expect to see your fanbase really heavy on the boards with the moves Presto Presti has made. With the classes coming up and the kid in your Avatar I see OKC making a quick bounce back. Gonna be the most interesting team to watch going forward.