consensus big board -- who is #23?

getrichordie · Post #1 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:53 am

Saddiq Bey wins the poll as the clear favorite with 8 votes with Bolmaro trailing with 5 votes.

I'm taking a page out of my own BB and adding Jalen Crutcher to the poll because I'm not sure there is a clear cut "consensus guy" to add to this. If you have suggestions, please feel free to post them and I will consider adding them to the poll and taking Crutcher or someone else out.

current consensus big board:

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Who is going to be #23?

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clyde21 · Post #2 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:27 am

i think wen should have 3 votes at this point because it's so wide open, that way if we don't get our #1 guy maybe we can get our #2 or #3 guy

hugepatsfan · Post #3 » by **hugepatsfan** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:38 am

I like Achiuwa. I think a team has to have a vision for him because I think are a number of skill sets you could try to take him. I see some shades of Bam Adebayo, Jeremi Grant, Lamar Odom, Trez Harrell with him. Gotta choose a role and develop his skills in it. I think he can be a great defender and unique offensive fit.

Hoping he makes to Boston at #17 as a Celtics fan.

RiotPunch · Post #4 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:14 am

Are you @thunderdustin, GROD?

Going Bolmaro again, same reasoning.

a-French-Fan · Post #5 » by **a-French-Fan** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:16 am

So this is #23 topic... and Malédon is still here. So are we gonna vote for him this time, or are we gonna wait for second round and making him the biggest steal of this draft class? ^^

getrichordie · Post #6 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:30 am

Posting this for visibility since we just voted in S. Bey

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getrichordie · Post #7 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:46 am

Also, mark my words: Achiuwa will be drafted before Saddiq, McDaniels, Reed, and Riller. Period.

You can bookmark that and save it for future or whatever.

Achiuwa should have been gone. He’s the most mobile big in this class by a mile. I have seen this man play post D, strip the ball, and take it coast to coast all by himself. Very very few big men are capable of such plays. That’s rare.

FT% and 3P% isn’t great but I buy him improving enough to where he’s a threat because his form looks really good. He just has to work on consistency.

His skill set and archetype is so valuable in today’s league. Not many big man can switch out on to the perimeter and hold their own. He projects to be able to do so with the right coaching. His problem isn’t lateral slides or not enough burst or recovery issues, it’s reads. That’s fixable.

Give me the guy who’s floor is:

+ plus rim-runner
+ 3-level defender
+ rebounding machine

Averaged 16 and 11 w/ 3 stocks in 30 minutes and a .500+ FTr for the cherry on top.

RiotPunch · Post #8 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:20 am

I don't think that is some bold statement. Precious has all the athleticism you could ever want, and someone will likely take him top-20. That said, I have a hard time gambling on a dude with such a low feel for the game and no real jumper to speak of. What do you invest in a bench energy small-ball 5? Not a 1st, if it were me. Born to be a Rocket, I see a lot of Faried.

Give me Yves Pons as a UDFA instead, as a value alternative.

RiotPunch · Post #9 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:23 am

Can we nominate? I feel like Desmond Bane and Isaiah Joe should be in the mix here, from my biased perspective.

No-Man · Post #10 » by **No-Man** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:03 am

Dude, maybe be a little less bias? including Jalen Crutcher is straight up comedy

Sir-Swish-A-Lot · Post #11 » by **Sir-Swish-A-Lot** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 am

Isaiah Stewart is a certified first round 2020 NBA draft pick that will most likely get drafted somewhere in the top 20.

Isaiah Stewart has the best hands of any big man in this draft. He's like a NFL tight end snatching passes/rebounds out of the air. He is built like a tank which makes him a potential devastating screen setter on the NBA level. Has a great touch, is very crafty around the basket with either hand. Has a high basketball IQ. Runs the court like a Gazelle. Is relentless on both ends of the court. And has only scratched the surface of his physical abilities.

Any team that drafts Isaiah Stewart will be getting a quality person off of the court that doesn't drink nor smoke nor is into the club scene but is focused on getting better at his craft. Barring injuries he will be a force to be reckoned with in the NBA for a long time.

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JamesConway · Post #12 » by **JamesConway** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:16 am

Voted for Bolmaro, next for me would probably be Maledon. Both have pretty good size for their position (Imo: Bolmaro SG, Theo: secondary/game-managing PG alongside a point forward-type) and workable skill levels. I think at least one of them will be able to carve out a role in the NBA as a spot starter/good bench player. Nice system players with BBIQ.

Post #13 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:16 pm

I voted for Stewart but would have picked Stix Smith or Pokuman if they were available.

getrichordie · Post #14 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:I voted for Stewart but would have picked Stix Smith or Pokuman if they were available.

Poku has already been voted in I believe. And you have the "other" option you can use to write in, man. That's what it is there for.

Post #15 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:43 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Ruzious wrote:I voted for Stewart but would have picked Stix Smith or Pokuman if they were available.

Poku has already been voted in I believe. And you have the "other" option you can use to write in, man. That's what it is there for.

You're right - my bad. I change my vote to "other" - "writing in" Smith.

getrichordie · Post #16 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:48 pm

Ruzious wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Ruzious wrote:I voted for Stewart but would have picked Stix Smith or Pokuman if they were available.

Poku has already been voted in I believe. And you have the "other" option you can use to write in, man. That's what it is there for.

You're right - my bad. I change my vote to "other" - "writing in" Smith.

Cool. With that being said... what's the case for Stix? I don't think he's strong enough to play the 5 and I don't think he's mobile enough to the point where I trust him playing the 4. I just don't know what his path to success in the NBA is. His post defense should be passable at times, but I feel like I'd rather take a shot on a more proven archetype in Nick Richards. I have Jalen Smith in the 40 range on my BB.

getrichordie · Post #17 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 pm

Fischella wrote:Dude, maybe be a little less bias? including Jalen Crutcher is straight up comedy

Can you please stop crying? If you don't like an option, use the write-in selection. Jesus.

Oh, wait. Fischella's opinion is the most important. I forgot about that part.

And I have zero reason to be biased towards Crutcher, you fool.

getrichordie · Post #18 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:52 pm

clyde21 wrote:i think wen should have 3 votes at this point because it's so wide open, that way if we don't get our #1 guy maybe we can get our #2 or #3 guy

I agree. I like this idea. I'll post it when #24 pops up.

Post #19 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:12 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Poku has already been voted in I believe. And you have the "other" option you can use to write in, man. That's what it is there for.

You're right - my bad. I change my vote to "other" - "writing in" Smith.

Cool. With that being said... what's the case for Stix? I don't think he's strong enough to play the 5 and I don't think he's mobile enough to the point where I trust him playing the 4. I just don't know what his path to success in the NBA is. His post defense should be passable at times, but I feel like I'd rather take a shot on a more proven archetype in Nick Richards. I have Jalen Smith in the 40 range on my BB.

He's not a perfect prospect, but he's the best available at that point, imo. I do think center is his best position - though matchups could make that vary against some teams. His stats improved quite a bit when he was switched to center (after the Mitchell brothers decided to transfer). Lower body strength will definitely be an issue, but in today's small-ball game - he should be fine, and he can out-quick bigger centers. His production at both ends and efficiency combined with his athleticism and 3 point range should get him picked long before the 40 range. He's got the mobility on D, though he hasn't been a high BBIQ defender and passer. If anyone remembers Joe Smith (also from MD), there are a lot of similarities - though Joe was a big more instinctive and didn't build up his upper body like Stix has.

getrichordie · Post #20 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:16 pm

Ruzious wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Ruzious wrote:You're right - my bad. I change my vote to "other" - "writing in" Smith.

Cool. With that being said... what's the case for Stix? I don't think he's strong enough to play the 5 and I don't think he's mobile enough to the point where I trust him playing the 4. I just don't know what his path to success in the NBA is. His post defense should be passable at times, but I feel like I'd rather take a shot on a more proven archetype in Nick Richards. I have Jalen Smith in the 40 range on my BB.

He's not a perfect prospect, but he's the best available at that point, imo. I do think center is his best position - though matchups could make that vary against some teams. His stats improved quite a bit when he was switched to center (after the Mitchell brothers decided to transfer). Lower body strength will definitely be an issue, but in today's small-ball game - he should be fine, and he can out-quick bigger centers. His production at both ends and efficiency combined with his athleticism and 3 point range should get him picked long before the 40 range. He's got the mobility on D, though he hasn't been a high BBIQ defender and passer. If anyone remembers Joe Smith (also from MD), there are a lot of similarities - though Joe was a big more instinctive and didn't build up his upper body like Stix has.

So you think Stix has a chance at being a starter or just a bench big?