consensus big board -- who is #27?

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who is #27?

Poll ended at Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:09 pm

isaiah joe
1
3%
isaiah stewart
4
10%
jahmi'us ramsey
10
26%
jay scrubb
1
3%
leandro bolmaro
11
28%
robert woodard II
0
No votes
tre jones
3
8%
xavier tillman sr.
4
10%
zeke nnaji
0
No votes
*OTHER (write-in)
5
13%
 
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Post#21 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:29 am

I mean... how can anyone watch this and think Nico is not going to be a liability on defense at the next level?

What is that @ 0:53? :nonono:

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Post#22 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 am

i'm not comparing him to anyone, I'm giving you examples of PGs that are 6'3 and under have been successful in the league, the sample size speaks for itself, you need to drop this nonsense argument because it's a terrible one.
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Post#23 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 am

and you have LaMelo #1 on your board, don't talk about defensive liability
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Post#24 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:53 am

clyde21 wrote:i'm not comparing him to anyone, I'm giving you examples of PGs that are 6'3 and under have been successful in the league, the sample size speaks for itself, you need to drop this nonsense argument because it's a terrible one.


You are really stuck on this 6'3 thing aren't you? Is that the best rebuttal you could come up with?

Also, I'm not sure what board you are looking at. I have Edwards #1. Don't you have Toppin top 5 lol?

Edit: Also, I have a Wiseman and Edwards in 2nd tier and LaMelo a tier below. How are you seeing I have LaMelo #1?
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Post#25 » by bondom34 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:15 am

Going to keep voting Jones at this point, floor is just too high IMO to drop too far. Knowing you get a guy who can play backup minutes at minimum at this point is great value. Bane for the 2nd spot.
FoundANewSlant wrote:it's really fundamental defensive flaws exhibited here by Westbrook, PG, and Adams that put Melo into vulnerable positions here yet you can't recognize or explain it.

So Paul George is the reason Carmelo Anthony struggled on defense all these years...
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Post#26 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:01 pm

bondom34 wrote:Going to keep voting Jones at this point, floor is just too high IMO to drop too far. Knowing you get a guy who can play backup minutes at minimum at this point is great value. Bane for the 2nd spot.


I just don't see it with Jones. Doesn't pass the eye test for me. Nothing pops outside of his passing for me.

Assuming you are talking about Tre?
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Post#27 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:32 pm

Catchall wrote:At this point in the draft, I'm starting to get interested in Tyrell Terry.


Honestly haven't watched Terry in a while... but what does he do better than Crutcher?
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Post#28 » by bondom34 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:23 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Going to keep voting Jones at this point, floor is just too high IMO to drop too far. Knowing you get a guy who can play backup minutes at minimum at this point is great value. Bane for the 2nd spot.


I just don't see it with Jones. Doesn't pass the eye test for me. Nothing pops outside of his passing for me.

Assuming you are talking about Tre?

Yup
FoundANewSlant wrote:it's really fundamental defensive flaws exhibited here by Westbrook, PG, and Adams that put Melo into vulnerable positions here yet you can't recognize or explain it.

So Paul George is the reason Carmelo Anthony struggled on defense all these years...
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Post#29 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:12 pm

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clyde21 wrote:i'm not comparing him to anyone, I'm giving you examples of PGs that are 6'3 and under have been successful in the league, the sample size speaks for itself, you need to drop this nonsense argument because it's a terrible one.


You are really stuck on this 6'3 thing aren't you? Is that the best rebuttal you could come up with?

Also, I'm not sure what board you are looking at. I have Edwards #1. Don't you have Toppin top 5 lol?

Edit: Also, I have a Wiseman and Edwards in 2nd tier and LaMelo a tier below. How are you seeing I have LaMelo #1?


yes, because you keep making this 'no good 6-3 and under PGs' in the league argument..it's nonsense, we went over this in the Jared Butler thread and you're still speaking as if it's true.

doesn't matter, u have Melo high up there, Nico's better defender than Melo, why aren't you holding that against Melo?
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Post#30 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:13 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Going to keep voting Jones at this point, floor is just too high IMO to drop too far. Knowing you get a guy who can play backup minutes at minimum at this point is great value. Bane for the 2nd spot.


I just don't see it with Jones. Doesn't pass the eye test for me. Nothing pops outside of his passing for me.

Assuming you are talking about Tre?


huh? he's the best POA guard defender in the entire class, high bbiq, ELITE assist-to-TO ratio...he's like the perfect back up PG in the NBA, and if he can ever find his shot he's a starter.
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Post#31 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:16 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:Going to keep voting Jones at this point, floor is just too high IMO to drop too far. Knowing you get a guy who can play backup minutes at minimum at this point is great value. Bane for the 2nd spot.


I just don't see it with Jones. Doesn't pass the eye test for me. Nothing pops outside of his passing for me.

Assuming you are talking about Tre?


huh? he's the best POA guard defender in the entire class, high bbiq, ELITE assist-to-TO ratio...he's like the perfect back up PG in the NBA, and if he can ever find his shot he's a starter.


I agree he will a fine back up. But I'm not taking him this high. Would rather have Flynn.
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Post#32 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:19 pm

clyde21 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i'm not comparing him to anyone, I'm giving you examples of PGs that are 6'3 and under have been successful in the league, the sample size speaks for itself, you need to drop this nonsense argument because it's a terrible one.


You are really stuck on this 6'3 thing aren't you? Is that the best rebuttal you could come up with?

Also, I'm not sure what board you are looking at. I have Edwards #1. Don't you have Toppin top 5 lol?

Edit: Also, I have a Wiseman and Edwards in 2nd tier and LaMelo a tier below. How are you seeing I have LaMelo #1?


yes, because you keep making this 'no good 6-3 and under PGs' in the league argument..it's nonsense, we went over this in the Jared Butler thread and you're still speaking as if it's true.

doesn't matter, u have Melo high up there, Nico's better defender than Melo, why aren't you holding that against Melo?


You really don't understand nuance do you?
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Post#33 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:20 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
You are really stuck on this 6'3 thing aren't you? Is that the best rebuttal you could come up with?

Also, I'm not sure what board you are looking at. I have Edwards #1. Don't you have Toppin top 5 lol?

Edit: Also, I have a Wiseman and Edwards in 2nd tier and LaMelo a tier below. How are you seeing I have LaMelo #1?


yes, because you keep making this 'no good 6-3 and under PGs' in the league argument..it's nonsense, we went over this in the Jared Butler thread and you're still speaking as if it's true.

doesn't matter, u have Melo high up there, Nico's better defender than Melo, why aren't you holding that against Melo?


You really don't understand nuance do you?


yes yes yes Lamelo is 6-6 and can make really cool looking passes i get it
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Post#34 » by bondom34 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:22 pm

TBH this is a few picks below where I'd start thinking about taking him.
FoundANewSlant wrote:it's really fundamental defensive flaws exhibited here by Westbrook, PG, and Adams that put Melo into vulnerable positions here yet you can't recognize or explain it.

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Post#35 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:24 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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yes, because you keep making this 'no good 6-3 and under PGs' in the league argument..it's nonsense, we went over this in the Jared Butler thread and you're still speaking as if it's true.

doesn't matter, u have Melo high up there, Nico's better defender than Melo, why aren't you holding that against Melo?


You really don't understand nuance do you?


yes yes yes Lamelo is 6-6 and can make really cool looking passes i get it


My take on Mannion has nothing to do with LaMelo.
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Post#36 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:25 pm

bondom34 wrote:TBH this is a few picks below where I'd start thinking about taking him.


Mannion or LaMelo?
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Post#37 » by bondom34 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:27 pm

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bondom34 wrote:TBH this is a few picks below where I'd start thinking about taking him.


Mannion or LaMelo?

Not sure if you're asking which of these two I'd take higher but Lamelo. I was saying this is a bit below where I'd consider Jones (I started voting for him early/mid 20s).
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Post#38 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:28 pm

clyde21 wrote:...


Just admit you can't handle the heat, man. ;)

You resort to incorrectly stating that LaMelo is #1 on my big board. The fact that you even brought him up at all just tells me you don't have a good rebuttal for my Mannion criticisms.

Just admit it. Your Conley v. Mannion take was really bad.
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Post#39 » by getrichordie » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:30 pm

bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:TBH this is a few picks below where I'd start thinking about taking him.


Mannion or LaMelo?

Not sure if you're asking which of these two I'd take higher but Lamelo. I was saying this is a bit below where I'd consider Jones (I started voting for him early/mid 20s).


Oh, okay. You didn't state a player so I thought you were just jumping in on the Mannion v. Conley conversation that somehow turned into a LaMelo discussion.
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Post#40 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:36 pm

getrichordie wrote:
clyde21 wrote:...


Just admit you can't handle the heat, man. ;)

You resort to incorrectly stating that LaMelo is #1 on my big board. The fact that you even brought him up at all just tells me you don't have a good rebuttal for my Mannion criticisms.

Just admit it. Your Conley v. Mannion take was really bad.


i think you're confused tbh but have at it
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