isaac okoro — 19.3 years old
6'5" — 225 — 6'9"


devin vassell — 19.8 years old
6'6" — 194 — 6'10"


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Fischella wrote:Okoro has star potential if he hits like a 95%tile outcome, he is most likely a different flavour of Justise Winslow
Also Okoro is thick and strong but lol at big wing, he is 6'5 bf with a 6'8 wingspan, he has average SG size with a the skillset of a PF
Vassell probably has a lower absolute ceiling, but his most likely outcome is flat out better
King Ken wrote:Fischella, explain what you mean?
getrichordie wrote:King Ken wrote:Fischella, explain what you mean?
I think he's saying that it is unrealistic to think Okoro becomes a good shooter...
King Ken wrote:getrichordie wrote:King Ken wrote:Fischella, explain what you mean?
I think he's saying that it is unrealistic to think Okoro becomes a good shooter...
I asked him and I disagree with your notion
King Ken wrote:Okoro and it's not close for me. A 3&D SG is the most overrated 3&D and the only 3&D that's less valuable is the 3&D PG. The shorter and smaller you are, the less value the 3&D has.
Okoro has the first step, explosiveness, size, versatility, movement skills, passing vision, feel for the game, and intangibles over Vassell. Vassell is a rich man's Danny Green as a prospect. He can help you Day 1 but he's not going to be that good. 4th or 5th option at best. Okoro at least is going to be a very good two-way big wing if his shot comes around or not. He's in the mold of Jimmy Butler, Iggy, and guys like that. Vassell is too small. 195 at 6'6 is just too small unless you got this crazy athleticism for me. While he's not Culver, Culver to me was overrated last year as a prospect and I feel the same way about Vassell.
nolang1 wrote:King Ken wrote:Okoro and it's not close for me. A 3&D SG is the most overrated 3&D and the only 3&D that's less valuable is the 3&D PG. The shorter and smaller you are, the less value the 3&D has.
Okoro has the first step, explosiveness, size, versatility, movement skills, passing vision, feel for the game, and intangibles over Vassell. Vassell is a rich man's Danny Green as a prospect. He can help you Day 1 but he's not going to be that good. 4th or 5th option at best. Okoro at least is going to be a very good two-way big wing if his shot comes around or not. He's in the mold of Jimmy Butler, Iggy, and guys like that. Vassell is too small. 195 at 6'6 is just too small unless you got this crazy athleticism for me. While he's not Culver, Culver to me was overrated last year as a prospect and I feel the same way about Vassell.
Rich man's Danny Green should be a top 5 pick in this draft. Danny Green is actually top 5 in his draft class in VORP behind Harden, Curry, Griffin, and Holiday. Team defense and floor spacing are pretty important.
Fischella wrote:Danny Green is a top10 pick in any draft, I don't care all that much for VORP, and value wise you still take DeRozan over him, if anything due to trade value in his draft class, and guys like Rubio,Ingles and Matthews are about the same level to me, but again, top10 regardless
Ghost of Kleine wrote:How would you guys rank Vassell and Okoro against these other defensive 2s: Josh Green/ Tyrese Maxey, Jahmius Ramsey, Trevelin Queen? Are they at all comparable in terms of value defensively?
Fischella wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:How would you guys rank Vassell and Okoro against these other defensive 2s: Josh Green/ Tyrese Maxey, Jahmius Ramsey, Trevelin Queen? Are they at all comparable in terms of value defensively?
Maxey is strictly a Guard defender, I don't think he qualifies, Queen is pretty erratic on D imo, Green is really good, prob comparable to them although he is less of a team defender and better tracking guys, Ramsey is terrible on team defense, 1on1 if he can lock on one guy he is alright
Fischella wrote:Oh I am, and even if he shoots okay it's gonna be corner 3s, low volume, low difficulty, he has less ball skills/creation ability than Winslow, he is more explosive/better on cuts, they both have vision and feel, Winslow more handling chops
I think he is a bit different but kinda similar impact wise, I am def not seeing a high end outcome for Okoro on offense as likely as you seem
I think he is a tier 3, teens level prospect, the earliest I'd consider him is probably at 10th for the Suns