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Post#121 » by Marcus » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:45 pm

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Roddy B for 3 wrote:To all the questions about Luka and Cade, Luka is much much bigger.

When Luka attacks the paint he will run through you. Cade dosen't have that size and probably can't get away with that at the NCAA level. (They are more old school with how they enforce rules).

In the NBA, as of now I'd expect Cade to be a 24/8/7 45/37/83 guy with good defense.

I do think his teams will year in and year out out perform their talent.

Really? Cade's listed at 6'8 220 at age 19. How much bigger is Luka? Maybe the difference is in the willingness to play physical?


Isn't Luka around 230-240?
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Post#122 » by Ruzious » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:09 pm

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Roddy B for 3 wrote:To all the questions about Luka and Cade, Luka is much much bigger.

When Luka attacks the paint he will run through you. Cade dosen't have that size and probably can't get away with that at the NCAA level. (They are more old school with how they enforce rules).

In the NBA, as of now I'd expect Cade to be a 24/8/7 45/37/83 guy with good defense.

I do think his teams will year in and year out out perform their talent.

Really? Cade's listed at 6'8 220 at age 19. How much bigger is Luka? Maybe the difference is in the willingness to play physical?


Isn't Luka around 230-240?

I'd guess 230 but probably doesn't have a particularly low body fat %, and he's 2 years older.
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Post#123 » by mattao313 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:47 am

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clyde21 wrote:he is nothing like Turner, Turner body type was bad, was 2 years older at draft time, not nearly as good of a shooter/3-level scorer as Cade, also Turner got assists but he couldn't really run half-court sets like Cade can

Cade is Penny Hardaway, less athletic with more PG skills


How about Brandon Roy?

Thats who I see. I honestly dont see him as a PG at the next level
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Post#124 » by MemphisX » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:04 am

I really hope Cade does not go to a team that tries and turn him into some new age version of Jason Kidd. He needs to be prodded to score. He had the luxury in HS of being able to keep it in cruise control with his scoring and you can see the same mentality at OSU. Yet, when needed he is an excellent scorer and there will be very few better scoring options than Cade no matter what team he is on going forward.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#125 » by Roddy B for 3 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:34 am

Marcus wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:To all the questions about Luka and Cade, Luka is much much bigger.

When Luka attacks the paint he will run through you. Cade dosen't have that size and probably can't get away with that at the NCAA level. (They are more old school with how they enforce rules).

In the NBA, as of now I'd expect Cade to be a 24/8/7 45/37/83 guy with good defense.

I do think his teams will year in and year out out perform their talent.

Really? Cade's listed at 6'8 220 at age 19. How much bigger is Luka? Maybe the difference is in the willingness to play physical?


Isn't Luka around 230-240?



Look at Cade he is skinny and looks wiery strong, for a teenager.

A good reference for how massive Luka is, is when him and Harrell made up, after Harrell's comments, before a playoff game
When they slap hands and embrace you can see Luka is wiiide and broooad, he is like 6'8 for real.

Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.

Luka often plays PF on defense for the Mavs.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 

Post#126 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:09 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:
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Post#127 » by WargamesX » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:54 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:


Yeah Cade is a legit SF and built for it. Luka is fatter and plays PF
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Post#128 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:54 pm

In today's game Cade can and will move up to the 4, if it helps his team. He's 19. It's like nobody ever learns the lesson that young men put on 10-15 pounds naturally in their 20s. He probably ends up around 235-240. If anything the concern with Luka would be putting on too much weight (look at his dad).
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Post#129 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:02 pm

lmao at cade as a 4

how about just leaving him at, you know, PG.
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Post#130 » by Roddy B for 3 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm

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Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:


He's listed at 6'8" 220.

Theo John of marquette is listed at 6'9" 245.

If you watch Marquette vs OSU you'll see OSU had Cade boxing Theo out all game (they basically play Cade as a 4 on defense in their zone). Cade was in position, under theo but Theo got like 4 rebounds while Cade was boxing him out because Theo is just so much bigger.

Watch Dawson Garcia (listed 6'11" 245lbs) post up Cunning ham and tell me their is only a 3" 25lvs difference between the two :lol: Cade was giving up rebounds to Dawson even when he was in position in front of him too, because Garcia is just soo much bigger.

Cade is just really skinny, yeah he can add weight, but he'll always be built more like a KD than a Kwahi.

If you look at the recent best players on championship teams, Steph, KD, LeBron, Kwahi, they are all either extremely extremely strong with great athleticism or are all time great shooters.

Cade dosen't project as either of those things.

That's not a knock. Cade is my #1 (I had Kuminga their but I need to see him in better quality video to put him over Cade who's floor us soo high).

I'm comfortable thinking Cade will be a guy who although a very different skill set than Devin Booker, is year in and out ranked in the same range as Devin, by mass media, RealGM, AllNBA selections etc. Some where in the 10-20 best player in the league perennially.

You'll see when Cade makes the NBA and plays Dallas if you think he and Luka are the same height, because that's just silly. Luka also has way more heft than Cade.

Lukas pre draft comparisons to Manu are probably more applicable to Cade, whereas Luka is like a giant Manu.
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Post#131 » by Roddy B for 3 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:51 pm

WargamesX wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:


Yeah Cade is a legit SF and built for it. Luka is fatter and plays PF


Cade Cunningham is built like Dorian Finny-Smith was at Florida, but with a longer wingspan.

If you kept Cade's defense and shooting, but took everything else away I think he'd still compete to be drafted in the NBA as a 3&D SF. When you add in every else he does, he a fine #1 pick.

In the last two drafts I would only take Zion over him and if Zion was the defender at Duke he's been in the NBA I'd probably take Cade over him too.
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Post#132 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

yea no you're never taking Cade over Zion, some of these takes are starting to get wild.
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Post#133 » by Roddy B for 3 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 pm

clyde21 wrote:yea no you're never taking Cade over Zion, some of these takes are starting to get wild.


You had Bol Bol #2 and Morant #9 sooo... What does you opinion mean?
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Post#134 » by mattao313 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:11 am

EvanZ wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:

Are these official measurements? He doesnt look 6'8 to me either.
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Post#135 » by gordeng » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:42 am

mattao313 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Cade is like 6'4-6'5 for real and is a stick compared to Luka.



Uh he's 6'8" 220. :crazy:

Are these official measurements? He doesnt look 6'8 to me either.


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He's standing next to Moses Moody, who's 6'6". So I think he's around 6'7".
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Post#136 » by clyde21 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:31 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:yea no you're never taking Cade over Zion, some of these takes are starting to get wild.


You had Bol Bol #2 and Morant #9 sooo... What does you opinion mean?


bet Bol doesn't go top10 in a redraft today
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Post#137 » by clyde21 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:32 am

and Cade isnt 6-8, probably 6-7 tops but maybe closer to 6-6...which is fine cuz the 4 talk is nonsense lol
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Post#138 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:07 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:yea no you're never taking Cade over Zion, some of these takes are starting to get wild.


You had Bol Bol #2 and Morant #9 sooo... What does you opinion mean?


bet Bol doesn't go top10 in a redraft today


50$ you organize the redraft and we'll see.
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Post#139 » by clyde21 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:37 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote::roll:
clyde21 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
You had Bol Bol #2 and Morant #9 sooo... What does you opinion mean?


bet Bol doesn't go top10 in a redraft today


50$ you organize the redraft and we'll see.


im on it chief
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Post#140 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 am

clyde21 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote::roll:
clyde21 wrote:
bet Bol doesn't go top10 in a redraft today


50$ you organize the redraft and we'll see.


im on it chief


Bet you'll fail at that too
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