Alperen Şengün

[PhilBlackson]

Does anyone have a link to confirm he's 6'10 barefoot??

That changes a lot for me and my opinion of him as a prospect if he is a legit size for a C and won't need to be on the perimeter as much.

[Clawed]

Does anyone have a link to confirm he's 6'10 barefoot??

That changes a lot for me and my opinion of him as a prospect if he is a legit size for a C and won't need to be on the perimeter as much.

He also isn't on the list prospects that will go to the combine it seems. Looks like Alperen's height and wingspan will always be a guessing game.

[Charm]

Does anyone have a link to confirm he's 6'10 barefoot??

That changes a lot for me and my opinion of him as a prospect if he is a legit size for a C and won't need to be on the perimeter as much.

He also isn't on the list prospects that will go to the combine it seems. Looks like Alperen's height and wingspan will always be a guessing game.

There's a good chance we'll see him play against Greece and/or Canada in the Olympic qualifiers, so he'll be on the court against NBA bigs. That'll give a better picture of whether or not he's undersized at C.

[Clawed]

Does anyone have a link to confirm he's 6'10 barefoot??

That changes a lot for me and my opinion of him as a prospect if he is a legit size for a C and won't need to be on the perimeter as much.

He also isn't on the list prospects that will go to the combine it seems. Looks like Alperen's height and wingspan will always be a guessing game.

There's a good chance we'll see him play against Greece and/or Canada in the Olympic qualifiers, so he'll be on the court against NBA bigs. That'll give a better picture of whether or not he's undersized at C.

It just would have been nice to have raw numbers so we don't have to do hyperanalyze all these pictures and argue back and forth 1 inch one way or another.

BTW on another note. I think an OG player that Alperen Sengun reminds me of is Alvan Adams (just by reading about him and watching highlights, he is before my time).

Interesting article on him. https://www.thespax.com/nba/alvan-adams-the-original-modern-big-man/ passing bigmen who led the Phoenix Suns in all team defensive win shares.

[WuTang_OG]

I find it stupid how every year measurements are always in the grey area. You would think the NBA would demand every prospect to measure out.

[Charm]

He also isn't on the list prospects that will go to the combine it seems. Looks like Alperen's height and wingspan will always be a guessing game.

There's a good chance we'll see him play against Greece and/or Canada in the Olympic qualifiers, so he'll be on the court against NBA bigs. That'll give a better picture of whether or not he's undersized at C.

It just would have been nice to have raw numbers so we don't have to do hyperanalyze all these pictures and argue back and forth 1 inch one way or another.

BTW on another note. I think an OG player that Alperen Sengun reminds me of is Alvan Adams (just by reading about him and watching highlights, he is before my time).

Interesting article on him. https://www.thespax.com/nba/alvan-adams-the-original-modern-big-man/ passing bigmen who led the Phoenix Suns in all team defensive win shares.

Oh, not saying it's be useful to squint at photos of him next to other players. Just saying, e.g. if he's outmuscling Dwight Powell, then he's probably a center. If he's not, then he's probably not a center.

[SNPA]

I could see a team Tim Duncan’ing it and starting him at PF but really he plays Center. That is very feasible IMO and depending on roster construction could be smart.

[Clawed]

I could see a team Tim Duncan’ing it and starting him at PF but really he plays Center. That is very feasible IMO and depending on roster construction could be smart.

He had some really nice big to big passing in his highlight reels. I'm sure he can make it work offensively especially if he develops 3 point range but don't know how it will work defensively. Sometimes he lunges at defenders in the 3 point range and gets cooked.

[Mirotic12]

I find it stupid how every year measurements are always in the grey area. You would think the NBA would demand every prospect to measure out.

As I already mentioned in this thread, the NBA has been measuring players in Europe every year since 2003. They only didn't have it last year, due to the pandemic. Every summer they have people going to Europe and doing official measurements.

If the pandemic situation allows it, there is absolutely zero chance that he won't be measured. Lots of times the US sports media just never reports on it, but you always see mentions in European media about the players being measured by NBA personnel.

[Mirotic12]

This whole argument about Segun being undersized is an out of date argument from years past. Anyone can watch the current NBA playoffs and see that he's not undersized.

The Nets are playing with a 6-9 center, the Clippers are playing with a 6-8 center, the Hawks are playing with a 6-10 center, etc. And we have seen more traditional big men like Nikola Jokic, and even DPOY Rudy Gobert struggle a lot to play defense against small lineups.

Gobert practically looked like a dinosaur in that game six against the Clippers and their small lineup.

[EvanZ]

This whole argument about Segun being undersized is an out of date argument from years past. Anyone can watch the current NBA playoffs and see that he's not undersized.

The Nets are playing with a 6-9 center, the Clippers are playing with a 6-8 center, the Hawks are playing with a 6-10 center, etc. And we have seen more traditional big men like Nikola Jokic, and even DPOY Rudy Gobert struggle a lot to play defense against small lineups.

Gobert practically looked like a dinosaur in that game six against the Clippers and their small lineup.

Small is one thing. Slow is another. Very hard to be small and slow. He’s clearly undersized and not clearly an above average NBA athlete. That puts him behind the eight ball at center regardless of what people here want to believe.


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[Charm]

This whole argument about Segun being undersized is an out of date argument from years past. Anyone can watch the current NBA playoffs and see that he's not undersized.

The Nets are playing with a 6-9 center, the Clippers are playing with a 6-8 center, the Hawks are playing with a 6-10 center, etc. And we have seen more traditional big men like Nikola Jokic, and even DPOY Rudy Gobert struggle a lot to play defense against small lineups.

Gobert practically looked like a dinosaur in that game six against the Clippers and their small lineup.

Small is one thing. Slow is another. Very hard to be small and slow. He’s clearly undersized and not clearly an above average NBA athlete. That puts him behind the eight ball at center regardless of what people here want to believe.


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Ah yes, Sengun could never hope to match the breathtaking physical and athletic gifts of...*checks notes*...Marcus Morris

[DevinVassell]

This whole argument about Segun being undersized is an out of date argument from years past. Anyone can watch the current NBA playoffs and see that he's not undersized.

The Nets are playing with a 6-9 center, the Clippers are playing with a 6-8 center, the Hawks are playing with a 6-10 center, etc. And we have seen more traditional big men like Nikola Jokic, and even DPOY Rudy Gobert struggle a lot to play defense against small lineups.

Gobert practically looked like a dinosaur in that game six against the Clippers and their small lineup.

Small is one thing. Slow is another. Very hard to be small and slow. He’s clearly undersized and not clearly an above average NBA athlete. That puts him behind the eight ball at center regardless of what people here want to believe.


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Correct me if I'm wrong (don't have time to read this thread properly) but I thought you argued earlier that Sengun was a pf because he was to small to play center. Now your argument is he is to slow to play center but that's ok for a pf?

[EvanZ]

This whole argument about Segun being undersized is an out of date argument from years past. Anyone can watch the current NBA playoffs and see that he's not undersized.

The Nets are playing with a 6-9 center, the Clippers are playing with a 6-8 center, the Hawks are playing with a 6-10 center, etc. And we have seen more traditional big men like Nikola Jokic, and even DPOY Rudy Gobert struggle a lot to play defense against small lineups.

Gobert practically looked like a dinosaur in that game six against the Clippers and their small lineup.

Small is one thing. Slow is another. Very hard to be small and slow. He’s clearly undersized and not clearly an above average NBA athlete. That puts him behind the eight ball at center regardless of what people here want to believe.


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Correct me if I'm wrong (don't have time to read this thread properly) but I thought you argued earlier that Sengun was a pf because he was to small to play center. Now your argument is he is to slow to play center but that's ok for a pf?

He’s big enough to be a 4 and he can be hidden better with a legit center behind him. It is what it is. I mean people here are talking about Blake Griffin and Marcus Morris as if they’ve been fives their entire careers. If that’s what people think of Sengun he’s kind of doomed.


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[EvanZ]

Would have been nice to see Sengun get measured at the Combine.


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[Alonzo_Morning]

Love this guy on the Pels

[Hal14]

Love this guy on the Pels

Him and Zion next to each could be really fun to watch as they both grow, develop together.

3 years from now that could be scary duo with Zion at the 4 and Sengun at the 5...plus Ingram at the 3..

[Alonzo_Morning]

Love this guy on the Pels

Him and Zion next to each could be really fun to watch as they both grow, develop together.

3 years from now that could be scary duo with Zion at the 4 and Sengun at the 5...plus Ingram at the 3..

We'll be trading the pick anyway unless we hella move up

[Hal14]

Love this guy on the Pels

Him and Zion next to each could be really fun to watch as they both grow, develop together.

3 years from now that could be scary duo with Zion at the 4 and Sengun at the 5...plus Ingram at the 3..

We'll be trading the pick anyway unless we hella move up

No way you guys should trade the pick. Are you kidding me? You're slated to pick around no. 10. That could be. serious stud, who could be 3rd piece you build around along Zion and Ingram (and possibly Ball if you resign him)

I like Sengun in that spot, or if you don't think you'll resign Ball, go for Giddey. Giddey is a really good passer could really make life easier for Zion and Ingram..

[EvanZ]

Love this guy on the Pels

Seems just about the worst pairing I can imagine. The spacing would be atrocious as would the defense.