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Post#121 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Apr 8, 2021 3:24 am

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BostonCouchGM wrote:I think Kispert can become Hayward 2.0. Same size, skill set and athleticism. He's definitely a 1st rounder and should go anywhere from mid-late lottery to the teens. I didn't appreciate him before but now see how good he can be in the NBA provided he works hard and reaches his potential.


Hayward has wayyy more ballskills and is on a different level as an athlete.
Kispert is basically Joe Harris. Sometimes the most obvious comparison is the right one

I dont think he is Harris is the best comp maybe Harris light. He might be at some point that clutch from deep but he like Harris is sneaky athletic so maybe he brings another dimension at the next level in a larger role than college.
I definitely dont see Kispert at the same level of ball handler or playmaker as GH was coming into the league so its a bad comp but it probably is not that far of a stretch to say his BBiq is up there.
given the struggles he has defensively his stock probably has not moved up ending the season on a sour note


Kispert is the better shooter coming out of college. He is the much better FT shooter and just put up back 2 back seasons from 3 that were better than any season Harris had.

Now ya a big part of Harris has been his progression, he has become one of those elite off ball movers and shooting on the move. But if youre trying to project what Kispert can become, Harris is kind of the exact guy youre looking at. Big guy that can play the 2 or 3, and is an elite outside shooter.

I think whoever drafts Kispert it would be a huge mistake to try and turn him into anything more than an elite off ball shooter. Stick him in the film room and just have him watch Korver/JJ all day and night. That is how youre going to maximize his impact.
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Re: Gonzaga prospects thread 2021 

Post#122 » by Leslie Forman » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:16 am

ruffian253 wrote:Timme is more Sabonis, high IQ, technically proficient big man with excellent footwork. Yeah, he will need to signficantly bulk up, but considering his high IQ, he is definitely a 1st rounder, not a lotto pick.

He looks absolutely nowhere near as strong and tough as Sabonis did. Sabonis was a man amongst boys in the paint.

He's an inside player, but a finesse one who can be negated fairly easily by NBA level defenders. He is BBQ chicken on defense. He doesn't have 3-point range. You are basically looking at a guy who's only real strength is the worst form of scoring the league, and doesn't even project to be anything special at it.

Maybe he shocks us in the pros and shows new skills, but based on what he's shown so far, he has no business going in the first, even though he might.
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Post#123 » by kobyz » Thu Apr 8, 2021 8:26 am

Timme resembles some Danny Manning
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Post#124 » by CoreyVillains » Fri Apr 9, 2021 7:26 pm

Banged out my Jalen Suggs Film Sesh. Kid is so much fun to root for.

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Post#125 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 9, 2021 7:55 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Banged out my Jalen Suggs Film Sesh. Kid is so much fun to root for.



good vid per usual, but the lonzo comp is a weird one.
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Post#126 » by VanWest82 » Fri Apr 9, 2021 11:50 pm

Kispert looks like a more complete player to me than Harris. He might never be as good of a shooter but he can put the ball on the floor and attack close outs. He runs some PnR. He's a pretty high level decision maker on both ends. Defensively that leads to him being a good help defender. Bet he's smart enough to fit in Nurse's system, for example, and it's not like he's getting attacked out there.

I've seen people compare him to Doug McDermott. Kispert looks like he has a more athletic build to me. His athleticism is sneaky but it's there. People are down on him because Davion Mitchell freaked him out in the title game but Kispert can play.
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Post#127 » by SmoothLefty21 » Yesterday 1:46 am

VanWest82 wrote:Kispert looks like a more complete player to me than Harris. He might never be as good of a shooter but he can put the ball on the floor and attack close outs. He runs some PnR. He's a pretty high level decision maker on both ends. Defensively that leads to him being a good help defender. Bet he's smart enough to fit in Nurse's system, for example, and it's not like he's getting attacked out there.

I've seen people compare him to Doug McDermott. Kispert looks like he has a more athletic build to me. His athleticism is sneaky but it's there. People are down on him because Davion Mitchell freaked him out in the title game but Kispert can play.


Overall I agree though McDermott has some underrated hops. I don't think Kipsert is as good of an athlete but I do agree that he's a more complete player.

It's 2021, a 6'7" wing who's an elite shooter, a smart player, and doesn't have any huge holes in his game? That's about as bust-proof as it gets nowadays, though his ceiling obviously isn't very high. I can't wait to see when he gets picked.
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Post#128 » by nybluemeadow » Yesterday 5:52 am

Suggs is not going to be a star or ever be in the conversation for NBA MVP, but he is going to be a good player. Suggs reminds me or looks like a slightly bigger Tony Parker.
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Post#129 » by kobyz » Yesterday 9:44 am

How is Suggs different from Markelle Fultz as a prospect coming out of college?
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Post#130 » by nybluemeadow » Yesterday 12:48 pm

kobyz wrote:How is Suggs different from Markelle Fultz as a prospect coming out of college?


Fultz was more of a jumpshooting guard with a good midrange game and elite 3pt shot

Suggs is more of an attacking guard like Tony Parker or Wade with only an average to below average 3pt shot.

I don't think Suggs will ever be as elite as Wade, but I think he can be a combo guard version of 2000s Tony Parker, which was 18ppg and 6 assist, with below average 3pt shooting but hitting +50FG%
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Post#131 » by CoreyVillains » Yesterday 1:10 pm

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CoreyVillains wrote:Banged out my Jalen Suggs Film Sesh. Kid is so much fun to root for.



good vid per usual, but the lonzo comp is a weird one.


Thanks dude. On the surface it does seem weird, but they're both guards who have somewhat stiff handles in the half court, with good vision, love throwing full to three quarter court hit aheads, and can defend. I dont think he's a carbon copy, I just think there are a lot of shades. But Suggs isnt afraid to shoot FTs so I think he'll have more of a half court game coming in.
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Post#132 » by peZt » Today 12:27 am

People keep comparing him to guys like Westbrook, Tony Parker, Wade and I am left wondering why. His athleticism is more like Lillard, Brogdon than even close to the first three

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