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This kid is gonna be incredible. He's already an absolute monster on defense. To me, Evan is the undisputed Defensive player of the Pac 12.
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I've finally been able to watch Mobley. With the reactions on this thread and twitter, I assumed he'd be a more polished offensive player. He's extremely talented, but raw. He's got great length, but a narrow frame. He lacks strength that becomes evident when he tries defending the post. Quick timing+length will allow him to be a good shotblocker in the NBA. He has the lateral quickness+IQ to defend the perimeter. Defense is where a lot of his potential is coming from.
On offense, he does a good job of slipping screens and moving off-ball. He really likes to attack the basket and makes a living at the FT line from taking advantage of slower bigs who get hand checked or can't keep up with his dribbles/speed. The shooting potential is there based off his 70% FT, but I don't think he's a 3pt threat at this point yet despite his 1.1 attempts. He's much more comfortable in the mid-range. He favors his falling away shot from the spin. He relies on his length and touch for getting his shot off. He plays a bit out of control sometimes when he forces his offense. He puts up a lot of ugly shots and gets bailed out with calls. I don't see a specific go-to offensive move, but as noted earlier, his bread and butter is probably going to be at the FT line where he can initiate contact.
He looks like who Skal Labissiere was supposed to be in college.
I don't see him as a franchise player the same way others here do. I don't think he's a guy you try to build your team around. However, his 2-way ability on both ends can easily make him the 2nd best player on a contending team. I think he'd fit great next to a dynamic scoring guard. He doesn't challenge Cade at #1 for me, but he's still a good prospect. I haven't finished watching the other guys, but he's a top 10 player in ANY draft, and probably a top 5 in this one.
On offense, he does a good job of slipping screens and moving off-ball. He really likes to attack the basket and makes a living at the FT line from taking advantage of slower bigs who get hand checked or can't keep up with his dribbles/speed. The shooting potential is there based off his 70% FT, but I don't think he's a 3pt threat at this point yet despite his 1.1 attempts. He's much more comfortable in the mid-range. He favors his falling away shot from the spin. He relies on his length and touch for getting his shot off. He plays a bit out of control sometimes when he forces his offense. He puts up a lot of ugly shots and gets bailed out with calls. I don't see a specific go-to offensive move, but as noted earlier, his bread and butter is probably going to be at the FT line where he can initiate contact.
He looks like who Skal Labissiere was supposed to be in college.
I don't see him as a franchise player the same way others here do. I don't think he's a guy you try to build your team around. However, his 2-way ability on both ends can easily make him the 2nd best player on a contending team. I think he'd fit great next to a dynamic scoring guard. He doesn't challenge Cade at #1 for me, but he's still a good prospect. I haven't finished watching the other guys, but he's a top 10 player in ANY draft, and probably a top 5 in this one.
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The Box Office wrote:This kid is gonna be incredible. He's already an absolute monster on defense. To me, Evan is the undisputed Defensive player of the Pac 12.
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I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Doesn't mean anything because it is one game, but Arizona is carving him up a bit.
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i still need convincing that he's not the best big prospect since Davis.
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clyde21 wrote:i still need convincing that he's not the best big prospect since Davis.
Zion?
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jman3134 wrote:clyde21 wrote:i still need convincing that he's not the best big prospect since Davis.
Zion?
not including Zion, Zion is a combo big/forward hybrid doesn't count for me.
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clyde21 wrote:jman3134 wrote:clyde21 wrote:i still need convincing that he's not the best big prospect since Davis.
Zion?
not including Zion, Zion is a combo big/forward hybrid doesn't count for me.
Embiid. He only dropped to 3 due to injury concerns. Most would still have taken him 1 in his draft. He was getting Hakeem comps.
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Day1 problem since I saw him
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after what he did to Moses Moody's name, I got DJ K. Perk in a Verzuz battle against ANYBODY
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I have Mobley still firmly the best big prospect I’ve seen since Embiid. He’s way more advanced offensively then Embiid was but he is a literal savant and a true monster big man/size.
Only query is motor but it’s more nuanced with him. Makes it look real easy sometimes.
My comp is a Bosh/Davis hybrid. My favourite prospect in this high end talent draft. Would pick him number 1# for sure.
Defensively he is sound hence why I rate him higher than Towns and co that are a tier below (Embiid aside without injury I thought for sure Hakeem/Shaq reincarnated this year though he’s gone insane lol).
Offensively I don’t see a rawness at all not when you can pass/handle/shoot already at good level skillset. Wouldn’t surprise me if he put up 20/10/3 numbers while being an elite as heck two way player.
I always prefer players that have a super high floor and still a long way to go with them. His versatility alone in how you want to mold him would have team scouting departments salivating.
With Cade if he goes number one no harm no foul. But he is in my eyes a lot more developed more importantly psychically as well.
He isn’t close to a Luka prospect (Special offensive manipulation, way more advanced skillset, his body hasn’t filled to out the max yet (Lebron without the athleticism but way superior ball handling skills/tricks?) even his low floor was in my mind Hayward 2.0 with more passing chops.
I can see Cade being a more aggressive/leader type Hayward level All star talent as a comp. Though his handle and maneuverability could use some work.
Only query is motor but it’s more nuanced with him. Makes it look real easy sometimes.
My comp is a Bosh/Davis hybrid. My favourite prospect in this high end talent draft. Would pick him number 1# for sure.
Defensively he is sound hence why I rate him higher than Towns and co that are a tier below (Embiid aside without injury I thought for sure Hakeem/Shaq reincarnated this year though he’s gone insane lol).
Offensively I don’t see a rawness at all not when you can pass/handle/shoot already at good level skillset. Wouldn’t surprise me if he put up 20/10/3 numbers while being an elite as heck two way player.
I always prefer players that have a super high floor and still a long way to go with them. His versatility alone in how you want to mold him would have team scouting departments salivating.
With Cade if he goes number one no harm no foul. But he is in my eyes a lot more developed more importantly psychically as well.
He isn’t close to a Luka prospect (Special offensive manipulation, way more advanced skillset, his body hasn’t filled to out the max yet (Lebron without the athleticism but way superior ball handling skills/tricks?) even his low floor was in my mind Hayward 2.0 with more passing chops.
I can see Cade being a more aggressive/leader type Hayward level All star talent as a comp. Though his handle and maneuverability could use some work.
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Should be the number one overall pick
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Underrated by many on this board. His game is perfectly suited for the NBA.
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DickGrayson wrote:Underrated by many on this board. His game is perfectly suited for the NBA.
How's season 3 of Titans looking Dick?
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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This guy is #1.
Mobley isn't a generation player, and we really haven't had one since Davis/Embiid.
Even though bigs don't dominate games anymore, I feel Mobely can be a re-roll at Ayton/Towns but without the basement bottom IQ of Ayton and lack of defensive awareness of Towns. His offensive will probably never touch Towns' production, but a 20/12/3 type of player would be a perpetual DPOY/MVP-impact player.
Mobley isn't a generation player, and we really haven't had one since Davis/Embiid.
Even though bigs don't dominate games anymore, I feel Mobely can be a re-roll at Ayton/Towns but without the basement bottom IQ of Ayton and lack of defensive awareness of Towns. His offensive will probably never touch Towns' production, but a 20/12/3 type of player would be a perpetual DPOY/MVP-impact player.
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Ayton has just as much talent as Davis and Embiid.CptCrunch wrote:This guy is #1.
Mobley isn't a generation player, and we really haven't had one since Davis/Embiid.
Even though bigs don't dominate games anymore, I feel Mobely can be a re-roll at Ayton/Towns but without the basement bottom IQ of Ayton and lack of defensive awareness of Towns. His offensive will probably never touch Towns' production, but a 20/12/3 type of player would be a perpetual DPOY/MVP-impact player.
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David Robinson reborn.
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CptCrunch wrote:This guy is #1.
Mobley isn't a generation player, and we really haven't had one since Davis/Embiid.
Even though bigs don't dominate games anymore, I feel Mobely can be a re-roll at Ayton/Towns but without the basement bottom IQ of Ayton and lack of defensive awareness of Towns. His offensive will probably never touch Towns' production, but a 20/12/3 type of player would be a perpetual DPOY/MVP-impact player.
In any draft without a big lead ball handler. Cade's archetype is the tie breaker.
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KobesScarf wrote:Ayton has just as much talent as Davis and Embiid.CptCrunch wrote:This guy is #1.
Mobley isn't a generation player, and we really haven't had one since Davis/Embiid.
Even though bigs don't dominate games anymore, I feel Mobely can be a re-roll at Ayton/Towns but without the basement bottom IQ of Ayton and lack of defensive awareness of Towns. His offensive will probably never touch Towns' production, but a 20/12/3 type of player would be a perpetual DPOY/MVP-impact player.
Ayton was a suss defender in college that was clear. I’m never high on Bigs that aren’t great defenders.
Towns was very good but in NBA he is hopeless.
Jokic though while being so so is a phenomenal offense talent (by the end he has a case for being the most offensive all round center all time he’s incredible).
20/10+/3 DPOY/All NBA def with a top 3 MVP shout wouldnt suprise me with Mobley in the slightest.
His super high floor, super high ceilings, his versatility and the most important thing his moldability puts him at the top in case in my eyes.
The only other prospect that I have at a higher ceiling is Jalen Green (He’s very special) he’s not boom/bust at all but for me he’s just a bigger unknown.
Either or should really be the number 1 prospect. I don’t take into account the player that they are now. I look at transferability, development scaling and what the finished product will be.
5 years time I have Mobley and Green over Cade quite comfortably