RealGM Consensus Mock - #8 Orlando

clyde21 · Post #1 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:52 am

1 Detroit: Cade Cunningham
2 Houston: Jalen Green
3 Cleveland: Evan Mobley
4 Toronto: Jalen Suggs
5 Orlando: Jonathan Kuminga
6 Oklahoma City: Scottie Barnes
7 Golden State: Franz Wagner
8 Orlando:

who does Orlando take here?

clyde21 · Post #2 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:03 am

Moody my BPA here but went with Bouk for Orlando since they already took Kuminga and have Okeke, a bucket getter at the 2 hole to put next to RJ/Cole moving seems like a good move for them, maybe they go best big (Alperen) here instead if they are not comfortable with Isaac/Bamba moving forward.

Post #3 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:24 am

Id probably go Keon. Im not the bigget fan of Keon because of those really poor shooting numbers. But good size at the 2 and good athleticism. I also wont be shocked to see Davion Mitchell going here though. I wouldnt take him this high, just feel like this is the kind of pick I can see him going at though.

They already have Isaac, Cole, RJ, Okeke, Bamba, Kuminga (going by this draft). They kind of have a young guy at each position it seems like, so really it seems like they could go any route. So I can see them going with the raw super explosive athlete at this pick.

I get the Bouk pick as well. Bouk is the better bucket getter, but I can see Orlando taking the risk on the younger and rawer athlete, especially since this is their 2nd pick. If Bouk was a better shooter I would take Bouk. But I think with his shooting numbers, I can see ORL taking Keon.

babyjax13 · Post #4 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:33 am

After Kuminga I'd go with the guy who spaces the floor the best, and that's Moody. I think he's going to be a really nice 3+D player, and Orlando is going to need some spacing and a good perimeter defender. Moody is also going to be able to shift between the 2 and 3, which adds some lineup versatility you won't get with Bouknight. I could see Keon, I actually think he has the highest upside on the board along with Jalen Johnson, but I'm not sure Moody/Sengun/Bouknight are far off.

RookieStar · Post #5 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:10 am

Im gonna go with Bouknight. Pure scorer for me outside of Green.

DCasey91 · Post #6 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:33 am

For me I don’t see much difference between Wagner, Barnes and Garuba so I’ll go him. I can easily see him being a double double threat and he can legit guard 1-5 somehow.

Offense is raw but if it hits (I mean Barnes is raw and Wagner is a jack of all trades) on one thing then he’ll be a very good player.

It’s him or Sengun and Sengun looks great atm.

76ciology · Post #7 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:57 am

Bouknight.

Selecting a big in the lottery is just a waste of a lottery pick. If you want a big, sign Andre Drummond for 2 boxes of chocolates.

I actually have Tre Mann at this spot. But next on the list are Bouknight and Cameron Thomas.

Skybox · Post #8 » by **Skybox** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:40 am

Kuminga for undetermined ceiling in the clouds…Bouk for buckets

DCasey91 · Post #9 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:07 am

Tre Mann might surprise a few come draft night.
In terms of polish he is one of the best in the whole class.

jezzerinho · Post #10 » by **jezzerinho** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:31 am

I'm between Tre Mann and Giddey. Bones also a consideration for me.

baldur · Post #11 » by **baldur** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:14 pm

Sengun for specifically Orlando. They already have the 5th pick, with the 8th pick they can take a little risk.

Hal14 · Post #12 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:23 pm

Bouknight. Orlando needs someone who can get buckets.

Bouknight and Kuminga could be a really nice combo. They'll be set at the 2 and the 3 for awhile which is perfect since those are their weakest positions right now. Well, they're also. weak at center so I suppose they could go Sengun here..

Hal14 · Post #13 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:23 pm

baldur wrote:Sengun for specifically Orlando. They already have the 5th pick, with the 8th pick they can take a little risk.

In this scenario we're assuming they pick Kuminga 5th. That is kind if a risky pick..

baldur · Post #14 » by **baldur** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:39 pm

Hal14 wrote:
baldur wrote:Sengun for specifically Orlando. They already have the 5th pick, with the 8th pick they can take a little risk.

In this scenario we're assuming they pick Kuminga 5th. That is kind if a risky pick..

why? isn't this draft considered a 5 man draft and kuminga is one of them?

Hal14 · Post #15 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:50 pm

baldur wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
baldur wrote:Sengun for specifically Orlando. They already have the 5th pick, with the 8th pick they can take a little risk.

In this scenario we're assuming they pick Kuminga 5th. That is kind if a risky pick..

why? isn't this draft considered a 5 man draft and kuminga is one of them?

He's considered a top 5 pick but most consider him to be clearly behind the 4 in front of him - and some are saying they would take Barnes over him. Kuminga is considered top 5 based on his potential, his athleticism, physical tools, upside. He is kind of a risky pick with high reward, from my understanding.

Also, while some people. see this as a 5 player draft, I'm not one of those people. This is a very deep draft IMO, with well over 30 players who could possibly turn into starters at the next level or at least very solid role players..

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #16 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:55 pm

Moody and it shouldn't be a question IMO. He gives you just about everything Bouk does in shooting but has the versatility to defend 1-3 something that Bouk likely can't do.

I don't quite get the Bouknight love for Orlando outside of his scoring ability. He's an older sophomore who should be further along in his development when comparing other guys. He isn't a good passer, defensively is somewhat meh as well. Yes he can improve for sure but if you compare his 2 years he didn't really improve much he just got benefit of more usage.

21.6%: His FG% on shots off the catch last season (per Synergy). 75% of his attempts were listed as “guarded,” but his “unguarded” FG% wasn’t much better (22.2%) :-?

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #17 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:57 pm

Hal14 wrote:
baldur wrote:
Hal14 wrote:In this scenario we're assuming they pick Kuminga 5th. That is kind if a risky pick..

why? isn't this draft considered a 5 man draft and kuminga is one of them?

He's considered a top 5 pick but most consider him to be clearly behind the 4 in front of him - and some are saying they would take Barnes over him. Kuminga is considered top 5 based on his potential, his athleticism, physical tools, upside. He is kind of a risky pick with high reward, from my understanding.

"his effort and energy will determine just how elite he becomes" That shouldn't be the MAIN Weakness for a guy you take in the top 5. Kuminga absolutely scares the crap out of me as an Orlando fan

clyde21 · Post #18 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:32 pm

Hal14 wrote:
baldur wrote:
Hal14 wrote:In this scenario we're assuming they pick Kuminga 5th. That is kind if a risky pick..

why? isn't this draft considered a 5 man draft and kuminga is one of them?

He's considered a top 5 pick but most consider him to be clearly behind the 4 in front of him - and some are saying they would take Barnes over him. Kuminga is considered top 5 based on his potential, his athleticism, physical tools, upside. He is kind of a risky pick with high reward, from my understanding.

Also, while some people. see this as a 5 player draft, I'm not one of those people. This is a very deep draft IMO, with well over 30 players who could possibly turn into starters at the next level or at least very solid role players..

when people say it's a 5 player draft they don't necessarily mean everyone else sucks other than the 5, they mean that those 5 are in a tier of their own above everyone else and the rest of the group is in the lower tiers, kinda like saying the draft starts at 6 because we know exactly who will go top 5. like how people were saying last year was a 3 player draft (Antman/WIseman/Lamelo) and the draft started at 4 etc...which I disagreed with but that's the logic.

baldur · Post #19 » by **baldur** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
baldur wrote:why? isn't this draft considered a 5 man draft and kuminga is one of them?

He's considered a top 5 pick but most consider him to be clearly behind the 4 in front of him - and some are saying they would take Barnes over him. Kuminga is considered top 5 based on his potential, his athleticism, physical tools, upside. He is kind of a risky pick with high reward, from my understanding.

Also, while some people. see this as a 5 player draft, I'm not one of those people. This is a very deep draft IMO, with well over 30 players who could possibly turn into starters at the next level or at least very solid role players..

when people say it's a 5 player draft they don't necessarily mean everyone else sucks other than the 5, they mean that those 5 are in a tier of their own above everyone else and the rest of the group is in the lower tiers, kinda like saying the draft starts at 6 because we know exactly who will go top 5. like how people were saying last year was a 3 player draft (Antman/WIseman/Lamelo) and the draft started at 4 etc...which I disagreed with but that's the logic.

Thanks for the great explanation my man;)

DCasey91 · Post #20 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:07 pm

Yeah the draft really starts at 6# you can throw half a dozen names out there for that pick and onwards in the draft it’s very fluid to me. A lot of prospects but it doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be good.

Presti loves to shake it up. Watch him draft someone like Mann at 6#.

ORL takes