RealGM Consensus Mock - #13 Indiana

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Indy takes:

Jared Butler
0
No votes
Usman Garuba
4
8%
Keon Johnson
21
44%
Kai Jones
1
2%
Corey Kispert
5
10%
Davion Mitchell
8
17%
Roko Prkacin
0
No votes
Jaden Springer
6
13%
Ziaire Williams
2
4%
Other
1
2%
 
Total votes: 48

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RealGM Consensus Mock - #13 Indiana 

Post#1 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:38 pm

1 Detroit: Cade Cunningham
2 Houston: Jalen Green
3 Cleveland: Evan Mobley
4 Toronto: Jalen Suggs
5 Orlando: Jonathan Kuminga
6 Oklahoma City: Scottie Barnes
7 Golden State: Franz Wagner
8 Orlando: James Bouknight
9 Sacramento: Jalen Johnson
10 New Orleans: Moses Moody
11 Charlotte: Alperen Sengun
12 San Antonio: Josh Giddey
13 Indiana:

who does Indy take here?
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Post#2 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:42 pm

I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:
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Post#3 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:46 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


why do you think theyd take Kispert?
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Post#4 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:53 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


why do you think theyd take Kispert?

Because I believe they sit down in their draft board room and have the conversation of "What pick could we make that would piss Sneaky P off the most?"

But realistically, the Pacers have made it known their goal is to compete(as unrealistic as it is), and KP has a history of taking players he views as someone ready to contribute right away(even though they never do.) Seems somewhat unlikely that the Pacers will be able to bring Doug McDermott back, so I view Kispert as a player that KP and company will view as someone who can step into that McDermott role immediately.
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Post#5 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:55 pm

Voting Keon Johnson again
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Post#6 » by Stillwater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:39 am

I like Springer or Mitchell here if both were available, I think Davion will be gone already so I go with Springer outside chance they go another route like a sleeper Greg Brown
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Post#7 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:22 am

Keon seems like the logical choice here. He is probably best player available based on consensus rankings and Indiana needs help at the 2/3 spots.
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Post#8 » by LofJ » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:37 am

The Pacers would develop Keon Johnson into a star. I'd bet real money on that.
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Post#9 » by SNPA » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:07 am

Half or close of these dudes bust.
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Post#10 » by BostonCouchGM » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:46 am

Kispert. They need shooting and he's close to what Hayward provides and they badly wanted him
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Post#11 » by DCasey91 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:01 am

Keon at 13 has some value to it, as others have stated can’t hurt to swing for the fence on this pick.

For a project I put him above Zhaire.

If that’s the route to take then Josh Christopher should be seriously considered. Talk about upside, he was a small forward the year before College so this his first real go at it at the guard spot.

Big boy and shot it fine late in the year (40% on the 3ball last six and his FT% is fine). Elite transition scoring potential abound. Freshman with all the tools. It’s all there and then some for him.
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Post#12 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 6, 2021 7:22 am

Keon is my pick as well. I do not want Kispert at all. We need to swing for the fences here.
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Post#13 » by MemphisX » Tue Jul 6, 2021 7:25 am

Pacers need POA defense losing TJ.

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Post#14 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:02 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.
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Post#15 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:04 am

MemphisX wrote:Pacers need POA defense losing TJ.

Davion


If they are picking at 13 I think it will be Mitchell or Kispert, my money is on a trade down.
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Post#16 » by Nuntius » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:32 am

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.


Because what we lack right now is not players who are NBA ready. What we lack is raw talent and Keon Johnson has that. We need a player who can potentially be great, not just fine. Keon Johnson has that potential. Corey Kispert does not.

It is definitely possible that we trade down and there are some quite good prospects later in the draft as well.
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Post#17 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:26 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.

Kispert's best case scenario is a solid role player....and he has a good chance of being that.

Keon's best case scenario is an All-Star. Now, he has a lot of work to do to become an All-Star, and its certainly risky, but at the very least, he should be a pretty great defensive player. Having Rick Carlisle should help as well in bringing out the best in Keon.

The Pacers need an All-Star...they don't need another role player. Maybe Keon never becomes that, but I'd rather swing for a homer than bunt.

The whole "could contribute this year" is short sighted to me. What are the Pacers realistically winning this year? They are not even in the conversation for contenders...so what does this year matter? Lets get a player that could potentially get us in that conversation in the future. Who are you benching for Kispert? Brissett, Justin Holiday, or Sumner?
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Re: RealGM Consensus Mock - #13 Indiana 

Post#18 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:27 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.


Because what we lack right now is not players who are NBA ready. What we lack is raw talent and Keon Johnson has that. We need a player who can potentially be great, not just fine. Keon Johnson has that potential. Corey Kispert does not.

It is definitely possible that we trade down and there are some quite good prospects later in the draft as well.


I don't see it 27% on the college 3? Athleticism does not make a basketball player or Larry Legend would have be been Larry who, oh yeah that tall guy who works at the hotel in West Baden.

As I said if this the best we can do I'd trade down with one of NY, OKC or Houston to get 2 picks and take two shots at such a player. Potential is rarely achieved and I've seen too many of these guys at 20 years old who turn into nothing, and I can name off 5-6 off the top of my head from recent years.
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Re: RealGM Consensus Mock - #13 Indiana 

Post#19 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:33 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I'd go with Keon Johnson, but as this is a mock draft, I sadly have to vote for Corey Kispert. :cry:


I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.

Kispert's best case scenario is a solid role player....and he has a good chance of being that.

Keon's best case scenario is an All-Star. Now, he has a lot of work to do to become an All-Star, and its certainly risky, but at the very least, he should be a pretty great defensive player. Having Rick Carlisle should help as well in bringing out the best in Keon.

The Pacers need an All-Star...they don't need another role player. Maybe Keon never becomes that, but I'd rather swing for a homer than bunt.

The whole "could contribute this year" is short sighted to me. What are the Pacers realistically winning this year? They are not even in the conversation for contenders...so what does this year matter? Lets get a player that could potentially get us in that conversation in the future. Who are you benching for Kispert? Brissett, Justin Holiday, or Sumner?



I'll say it again I don't know how you guys have determined that Keon Johnson has all this "potential" to become the next great SG.

If the team picks Kispert he replaces Dougie who I'd like to have back, but I think Kispert will be a better version of Doug. I said in my last post if I'm facing getting a backup rather than just drafting a guy like Johnson I'd look to trade down and get another pick and get 2 guys with Potential. I really like Duarte and Isiah Jackson as my 2 if I'm picking at the say the Knicks 19 and 21 slots. Duarte is ready to play and Jackson is my "potential'' guy.
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Re: RealGM Consensus Mock - #13 Indiana 

Post#20 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:40 pm

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I'm not understanding the hype around Keon Johnson he might end up being a fine NBA SG but why does Indiana need a shooting guard #1 and #2 why one who shot 27% from the college 3 range?

I think Kispert is NBA ready and could contribute this year.


I also know that the verdict is in for this pick on this Mock but, I'm betting they trade down.


Because what we lack right now is not players who are NBA ready. What we lack is raw talent and Keon Johnson has that. We need a player who can potentially be great, not just fine. Keon Johnson has that potential. Corey Kispert does not.

It is definitely possible that we trade down and there are some quite good prospects later in the draft as well.


I don't see it 27% on the college 3? Athleticism does not make a basketball player or Larry Legend would have be been Larry who, oh yeah that tall guy who works at the hotel in West Baden.

As I said if this the best we can do I'd trade down with one of NY, OKC or Houston to get 2 picks and take two shots at such a player. Potential is rarely achieved and I've seen too many of these guys at 20 years old who turn into nothing, and I can name off 5-6 off the top of my head from recent years.

You mean....not every draft pick becomes a star!?!?! No way!

It's not just his athleticism, its his motor and defensive ability. At the very least, he should be great on that end...especially with Rick Carlisle teaching him, and with his ability to slash, he shouldn't be a black hole on offense....and if he figures out his shot? He has a chance to be a star player.

Kawhi Leonard slipped in the draft for some of the same concerns....he shot 25% from 3 in his two years(29% his second year) and it seems to have worked out pretty good for him, no?

That isn't to say Keon will figure out his shot...I don't know...but for a team that desperately needs star talent, lets take a guy who can maybe get there....not the guy whose best case scenario is a role player....we have enough of those. Again, who are you benching for Kispert? Sumner, Justin, or Brissett? Is Kispert the player that takes us from missing the playoffs to winning the Championship in your mind?

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