The-Power wrote:916fan wrote:As someone who saw Culver as a bust from a mile away
You had him 7th on your big board, hardly where you'd put an obvious bust.
Since you want to bring up old big boards, you should also provide the context.. which you would would've saw through my post search because i only have 1 page of "Culver" mentions.
Post#164 » by 916fan » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:53 pm
I'm really not seeing Culver as a top 5 prospect. He's an on-ball SG who struggles to shoot the ball. He likes to attack and while his ball handling permits him, his lack of wiggle room doesn't. I don't see much of an in-between game and his shot creating is just average. I do like his defense and his awareness on that end at SG though.
If you guys see him as a top 5 prospect, what do you want out of him? I don't see the appeal.
Re: 2019 Draft Class
Post#3404 » by 916fan » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:46 pm
clyde21 wrote:
despite Culver's bad shooting night, he's still producing. 15/10/5 with 2 steals. the fact that he can still contribute across the board like this while not shooting or scoring well is huge a positive.
Hunter has 27pts on him though. He's definitely not strong enough to defend SFs in the NBA. 5-22 is really bad. He played horrible today, not much production imo.
Post#3398 » by 916fan » Mon Apr 8, 2019 8:08 pm
Just not buying Culver as a top 5 pick. Not really sure what his role is in the NBA. He's an on-ball SG who can't shoot and lacks wiggle room.
Re: Jarrett Culver
Post#140 » by 916fan » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:43 pm
Are people convinced that he can become a shooter in the NBA? His % are not promising.
Freshman year: 38.2% 3pt on 3.9 attempts. 64.8% FT on 2.9 attempts.
Sophomore year: 31.6% 3pt on 4.2 attempts. 70.9% FT on 5.4 attempts.
That shooting is so damn suspect.
Post#3413 » by 916fan » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:16 am
I feel like people are only pumping Culver up because the other prospects aside from the top 3 look dull.
-DeAndre Hunter is the prototypical 3&D SF with a high floor but questionable ceiling.
-Garland only played in a few games(small sample size is helping him out) and is injured right now.
-Clarke is a high flyer, but his age (23 at the start of the season) and lack of size turn people off.
-Reddish has looked bad at Duke despite being hidden behind a generational talent and an elite prospect.
-Little looks like Stanley Johnson and hasn't been noticeable at UNC
-Romeo Langford is a SG who can't shoot
-Jaxson Hayes is the typical raw freshman C whose stock has risen up out of nowhere like Zach Collins did 2 years ago..except no March competition to test him.
-Coby White is a SG/PG combo with high IQ, but he's a Spurs-type of player with no flashiness.
-Sekou is your annual very raw overseas player who'll either get too hyped up, or not hyped up enough.
-Kevin Porter, SG/SF that didn't really stand out in his freshman year but shows the tools for the NBA..played on bad USC team
-Bol Bol, one of the most polarizing players, he actually does get discussed though. Exception out of these guys
-PJ Washington, good college player but he looks like a 2000s PF without the size and length.
-Tyler Herro...good shooter, but his poor athleticism gives everyone a pause
-Rui is a late bloomer with an ugly style of play..even for college basketball.
Taking a look at this, I can now see why people would rather talk about Culver than everyone else on this list. This isn't my draft profiles on these guys, but I really stand by what I said earlier in the season... This is a weak draft. At least in previous "weak drafts", we've had a bunch of boom or bust prospects(mostly busts), but their potential made it interesting. I really don't see those types of players in this draft aside from maybe Clarke and Bol Bol?
Re: Jarrett Culver
Post#262 » by 916fan » Tue Apr 9, 2019 11:44 pm
clyde21 wrote:
people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.
btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.
as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.
This is a funny comment. It's like saying Markelle Fultz is a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect. Or a less extreme example, Marcus Smart was a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.
He doesn't have that jumper. Learning to shoot is not an easy task in the NBA. His shooting has regressed from last season. His shooting % from a year ago means absolutely 0 when his mechanics are bad. Stanley Johnson had averaged 37% from 3pt at Arizona. He's a career 29.3% 3pt shooter in the NBA.
Post#18 » by 916fan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:25 am
This is pretty hard because I think multiple teams are trying to trade up for #4, but I don't know which teams. I also think Atlanta would love to move up. My trade predictions beforehand:
1. Pelicans trade #4 for the Bulls' #7 and a future FRP
2. Suns trade #6 for the Hawks' #8 and #17
A) Mock out the top 10, noting any traded picks:
1) New Orleans Pelicans: Zion Williamson
2) Memphis Grizzlies: Ja Morant
3) New York Knicks: RJ Barrett
4) Chicago Bulls (via NOP): Darius Garland
5) Cleveland Cavaliers: Jarett Cullver
6) Atlanta Hawks (via Phoenix) : DeAndre Hunter
7) New Orleans Pelicans (via Chicago): Jaxson Hayes
8) Phoenix Suns (via Atlanta): Coby White
9) Washington Wizards: Nassir Little
10) Atlanta Hawks: Sekou Doumbouya
B) How many 2019 first rounders will get traded on draft day?
5 separate 1st round draft trades
C) Who will be the biggest name player (not draftee) traded on draft day?
Mike Conley
D) Who will be the biggest steal? Who will be the biggest reach?
Biggest steal: Nickeil Alexander-Walker in 1st round, Daniel Gafford in 2nd round
Biggest reach: Jarrett Culver
Re: Jarrett Culver
Post#263 » by 916fan » Tue Apr 9, 2019 11:52 pm
He reminds me of Troy Brown Jr from last year's draft who went 15th overall. I would say Culver moves better than him in space, and
he's more of a SG than a SF. #4 is still too high in a weak draft.I think Ben Rubin released a good piece about him. The title is Draft Notes: Being realistic about Jarrett Culver
https://www.thestepien.com/2019/02/06/draft-notes-realistic-jarrett-culver/Looks like it was published 2 months ago where hype on him really picked up.
