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Using Sam Vecenie's Big Board 3.0, What player do you think gets the biggest bump in perceived draft value from now until the draft day?

Well, the big board is paywalled, but I will go with Mathurin if AZ makes it far. In the second round, maybe Juzang goes nuts again?

NBA already knows about Jaime Jaquez, so I will say Kennedy Chandler and Jalen Duren.

I think it’s Ivey. If he has a monster tourney I think he has a shot to go #1 overall

Oscar Tshiebwe. I've seen some laughable takes on here and from draft "experts" that have him as a 2nd round prospect. The worst takes you'll ever read. The guy is 6'9" 250 pounds with quick hops, good length, very high BBIQ and the best motor you'll find. He's putting up 17-15 with almost a couple blocks and steals a game. People are writing him off because his type of player is non-existent in the NBA? Too funny. So now NBA teams don't need tough-nosed defenders, rebounders, guys that set screens and run the PnR? News to me. He's the poster child for a small ball center and should be a mid 20s pick at worst in this draft class. I know NBA G.M.s are really dumb but they can't be THAT dumb to let him slide out of the first can they? Who wants Draymond Green 2.0? Step right up
So if he's thought of as a 2nd rounder now by talking heads, I think a strong tournament with him simply continuing to do his thing, will help make him a media darling and elevate his draft position the most. Everyone else we talk about is fairly rated imho.

As far as someone thought of as undraftable before the season who might vault themselves into the draft with a strong tournament, I think that could be Christian Braun. Kansas has an easy road to the Elite 8 so he'll be on TV screens a lot plus Agbaji might get all the attention from teams giving Braun a chance to capitalize on being wide open. Going back to his freshmen year I always thought of Braun as a very poor man's Jaylen Brown. He lacks the fast twitch athleticism and length but has similar size/physique and skill. I feel like Kansas goes out of their way to limit their young guys to try to ensure they stay. Grimes, Azubuike, Braun and Agbaji. That's the conspiracy theorist in me anyway. They can't get the top one and dones so they get the next best group and convince them they need more time or simply don't showcase them so they lose them early. Maybe that's why they don't get the top guys?

azcatz11 wrote:I think it’s Ivey. If he has a monster tourney I think he has a shot to go #1 overall

I think he already has a shot, but I'm not sure going from consensus top 5 to say...consensus top 3 is that big of a jump. That said, I almost picked him, too! I also thought about Kennedy Chandler, since guard play is so important in college.

Biggest bump?

Colorado St has a tough draw, but if they can make a run, David Roddy is exactly the type to suddenly become the darling of the media draftniks.

BostonCouchGM wrote:Oscar Tshiebwe. I've seen some laughable takes on here and from draft "experts" that have him as a 2nd round prospect. The worst takes you'll ever read. The guy is 6'9" 250 pounds with quick hops, good length, very high BBIQ and the best motor you'll find. He's putting up 17-15 with almost a couple blocks and steals a game. People are writing him off because his type of player is non-existent in the NBA? Too funny. So now NBA teams don't need tough-nosed defenders, rebounders, guys that set screens and run the PnR? News to me. He's the poster child for a small ball center and should be a mid 20s pick at worst in this draft class. I know NBA G.M.s are really dumb but they can't be THAT dumb to let him slide out of the first can they? Who wants Draymond Green 2.0? Step right up
So if he's thought of as a 2nd rounder now by talking heads, I think a strong tournament with him simply continuing to do his thing, will help make him a media darling and elevate his draft position the most. Everyone else we talk about is fairly rated imho.

As far as someone thought of as undraftable before the season who might vault themselves into the draft with a strong tournament, I think that could be Christian Braun. Kansas has an easy road to the Elite 8 so he'll be on TV screens a lot plus Agbaji might get all the attention from teams giving Braun a chance to capitalize on being wide open. Going back to his freshmen year I always thought of Braun as a very poor man's Jaylen Brown. He lacks the fast twitch athleticism and length but has similar size/physique and skill. I feel like Kansas goes out of their way to limit their young guys to try to ensure they stay. Grimes, Azubuike, Braun and Agbaji. That's the conspiracy theorist in me anyway. They can't get the top one and dones so they get the next best group and convince them they need more time or simply don't showcase them so they lose them early. Maybe that's why they don't get the top guys?

You should have seen the flack I took on Twitter just for saying he will be drafted. This was when groupthink ESPN had him at like #90 I'm not sure he is a first round pick due to his inability to space and his advanced age, but I like him a lot as a screen setter glue guy. He does struggle a bit offensively against length, but his dominance on the glass will translate. If you are a Memphis Grizzlies team putting up innumerable attempts at the rim, you want a specialist ala Steven Adams who can create extra possessions.

The four I posted in an article before the tourney started: Mike Miles, Dalen Terry, JD Davison and Jamaree Bouyea.

Mike Miles, TCU

Miles faces off against a Bryce Aiken-less Seton Hall squad who has been reeling in recent games. If he can control the tempo and demonstrate an ability to keep defenses honest from the perimeter, Miles could vault up draft boards. Facing off against Myles Cale and/or Jared Rhoden won’t be an easy task.

Dalen Terry, Arizona

With Kerr’s Kriisa’s ankle injury, Terry has had to step up and carry more of the offensive load. The lengthy 6’7 guard has excellent vision, defensive grit, and tenacity driving the ball to the basket. Can he flash from beyond the arc?

Jamaree Bouyea, San Francisco

This name will come as no surprise for many who follow the WCC conference. However, the NCAA tournament will serve as an opportunity for this dynamic guard to get his name out there on the national stage. Can he create for his teammates and thrive in the halfcourt against bigger athletes?

JD Davison, Alabama

Davison is an outstanding freshman with the skills and requisite athleticism to play at the next level. Can Davison seamlessly operate as the lead guard of a successful tournament team, enabling Jahvon Quinerly to play off the ball? Can he run the show?

https://fffaceoff.com/2022-ncaa-tournament-mixer-favorites-sleepers-nba-prospects-and-picks/

We need Doug Edert's stache to pole vault into the lottery.

Bouyea was really impressive. Shame it came in a loss.

Jamaree Bouyea looked really good. Think he is a pretty sure bet to be a nice backup PG at the next level. Think early 2nd with some hope of sneaking into late R1 to a team wanting a 'win now' type rotation guy. Dont see huge upside though.

I know I'm late but better late then never.

Not sure he gets drafted but KC Ndefo is an intriguing prospect on St Peters.

With Jaime Jaquez that leaves a very large hole to fill for UCLA. Look for Peyton Watson to make an impact in their next game.

Fabian White is a player noone is talking about but I'm sure he will get a contract. He may not get drafted but he will be on a time. Outworks everyone makes winning plays and is always improving and working hard. He has a great reputation.

in hindsight, i could see mathurin if he has another couple big games jump from possibly going 10-14 range to top 5. once they are drafted, it's impossible to know where they would have gone had x and/or y not taken place, but i'd been thinking he'd be drafted around 10-14.

I've had him anywhere from about 6 to 8 personally, and that's where i still have him.

Mathurin.

BostonCouchGM wrote:Oscar Tshiebwe. I've seen some laughable takes on here and from draft "experts" that have him as a 2nd round prospect. The worst takes you'll ever read. The guy is 6'9" 250 pounds with quick hops, good length, very high BBIQ and the best motor you'll find. He's putting up 17-15 with almost a couple blocks and steals a game. People are writing him off because his type of player is non-existent in the NBA? Too funny. So now NBA teams don't need tough-nosed defenders, rebounders, guys that set screens and run the PnR? News to me. He's the poster child for a small ball center and should be a mid 20s pick at worst in this draft class. I know NBA G.M.s are really dumb but they can't be THAT dumb to let him slide out of the first can they? Who wants Draymond Green 2.0? Step right up
So if he's thought of as a 2nd rounder now by talking heads, I think a strong tournament with him simply continuing to do his thing, will help make him a media darling and elevate his draft position the most. Everyone else we talk about is fairly rated imho.

As far as someone thought of as undraftable before the season who might vault themselves into the draft with a strong tournament, I think that could be Christian Braun. Kansas has an easy road to the Elite 8 so he'll be on TV screens a lot plus Agbaji might get all the attention from teams giving Braun a chance to capitalize on being wide open. Going back to his freshmen year I always thought of Braun as a very poor man's Jaylen Brown. He lacks the fast twitch athleticism and length but has similar size/physique and skill. I feel like Kansas goes out of their way to limit their young guys to try to ensure they stay. Grimes, Azubuike, Braun and Agbaji. That's the conspiracy theorist in me anyway. They can't get the top one and dones so they get the next best group and convince them they need more time or simply don't showcase them so they lose them early. Maybe that's why they don't get the top guys?

Spot on. Braun put up 12-12-3 and was the impetus for their second half run plus had great D on that last three. I think he got himself drafted. I expect his name to be added to mock drafts and big boards. He’ll carve out a solid role playing NBA career

He was early 2nd before the tournament. Should have been 1st. Now I think he's firmly 1st.

Christian Braun was the best player for Kansas and is the best prospect this game. He goes late first to early second.

Agbaji shouldn't be a top 20 pick period. I hate him as a prospect.

Bacot is a late second rounder at best.

Love is 50+ pick to undrafted, but pretty much guaranteed a summer league spot.

Manek is undrafted to summer league spot.

I think Mark Williams is the answer to this question. I think out of everyone, he boosted his stock the most. Wouldn't be shocked if he is the first 5 off the board (over Duren).

Duke4life831 wrote:I think Mark Williams is the answer to this question. I think out of everyone, he boosted his stock the most. Wouldn't be shocked if he is the first 5 off the board (over Duren).

this + Jaylin Williams

Tourney performance is pointless they said. Draft stock shouldn’t change they said.