Rank these young trios

[clyde21]

in terms of who you'd rather have moving forward in a vacuum


CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams

[EMG518]

in terms of who you'd rather have moving forward in a vacuum


CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Roach

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams

I think you meant Sochan for the Spurs.

[baldur]

Det and Hou are by far for the top tier. Well, I came here to say OKC assuming you included SGA but you didn't, so there is that.

[clyde21]

Det and Hou are by far for the top tier. Well, I came here to say OKC assuming you included SGA but you didn't, so there is that.

nah, not including well established young players like SGA, Luka, Zion and Morant.

[azcatz11]

1. DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren

2. HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun

3. CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley

4. OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren

5. CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams

6. GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman

7. SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan

My rationale is that you would normally always take the #1 overall talent out of the trio and order from there IE Moble, Lamelo, etc but I really like the fit (overall talent) of Detroit & Houston. I don't know if that makes sense but in these cases I believe 4 quarters exceeds the dollar.

Honestly you could argue any of the top 5 and make a good argument.

[basketballRob]

No Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero?

Suggs had a terrible year that was plagued with injuries but was still around 15th in defensive Raptor.

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[Big J]

This is the Cleveland trio and it’s not really close.

[CP War Hawks]

DET is the answer rn, Ivey and Duren have a healthy bust factor however. Cle would be my choice if not for Agbaji. Griffin shot 45% shooting alot of threes from NBA range, not sure why they didn't opt for him.

[clyde21]

No Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero?

Suggs had a terrible year that was plagued with injuries but was still around 15th in defensive Raptor.

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not sure how I missed that one - yes that's def in the mix here.

[azcatz11]

No Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero?

Suggs had a terrible year that was plagued with injuries but was still around 15th in defensive Raptor.

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not sure how I missed that one - yes that's def in the mix here.

I'd have them #6 after OKC.

What are your thoughts on the rankings?

[reanimator]

Well Cleveland/Houston have the most proven cores but I really like OKC/Detroit to join them next year. The other trios all have a guy I can't really buy stock in.

[The-Power]

Great thread. Not taking into account other teams I'd rank them:

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren
Awesome duo with Ivey and Cunningham, both were #1 on my big boards for those years, and they fit super well. Cade also has one of the highest floors in this exercise. Not particularly high on Duren but he's a fine piece with those two players I suppose, and ultimately I care about what the duo brings much more than the trio.

CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley
Again, very high on the Garland-Mobley duo. That's a great fit and the talent is awesome. I'm still a bit higher on Cade than Mobley; and Ivey has ways to go to become as good as Garland but if he improves well (far from guaranteed), he is less likely to be targeted in the playoffs. Agbaji doesn't do much for me. So I have them slightly behind DET but it's very close and could go either way – this may indeed be the somewhat safer pick.

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun
I like the Green and Jabari combo but not as much as the other duos. Feels like they both still need a high-level playmaker to be utilized fully, so that's a notable hole the two other duos don't have. Sengun is a fine prospect but once again, doesn't move the needle that much here. If we'd add other players, they'd have be closer to the two above though – I like Christopher and (although not as much as others) Eason. Unlikely to overtake them either way, though.

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren
It's close with HOU. I'm not as high on Giddey and Chet as a lot of others but still consider them good prospects. Higher on Dieng than most. Ultimately, I can't put them at the top because I'm still not sure they have that superstar yet; they'll have to hope one of them develops into that. As of now, it's also unclear how well they fit – could be synergetic, but could also be an issue with players that may need the ball to maximize their talent. Of course if you'd add SGA (plus Williams), that changes things and I would strongly consider them for the top spot.

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman
I still like all of these prospects but – akin to OKC – I don't yet see a future All-NBA player here. It's possible but odds are not that great. Moody is an awesome complementary pick, Wiseman I still like but I need to see his feel for the game come around, and Kuminga is the wildcard – he could blow up or fizzle out. Highest chance to become a star, but may also never be an impact player. If you had included Poole, I'd have them higher (probably behind CLE and ahead of HOU).

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan
Tough to decide between them and CHA. I like the Spurs combo more in terms of playoff resilience (something I value highly) but once again, I struggle to see a star yet. Primo has the best chance but it's still a long shot. Sochan may be the king of impact stats but will always need someone around him that carries the offense and lets him focus on what he does so well. Vassell is a nice complementary player but doesn't affect the ranking all that much.

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams
Feels wrong to place them last because LaMelo has better odds to become an All-NBA player than anyone on the four teams ahead of him. But I still I have concerns how good he'll be in the playoffs, and how much he contributes to winning ultimately, and some concerns about his attitude or approach (that matters for this exercise because reliable players are easier to build around). The bigger problem, however, is that Bouknight does nothing for me here, and Williams is a fine prospect but not someone who moves the needle all that much for this exercise.

edit: The suggested Orlando trio (Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero) I'd have comparable to GSW – not sure which of them to rank higher – but a bit below the OKC trio. I like Wagner but not as high on Banchero as a lot of others (still a good prospect) and Suggs is more likely to be a complementary than a star player in my opinion. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they end up being a very good trio but still one where the truly elite franchise player is missing.

[The-Power]

Det and Hou are by far for the top tier. Well, I came here to say OKC assuming you included SGA but you didn't, so there is that.

nah, not including well established young players like SGA, Luka, Zion and Morant.

You don't consider Garland an established young player at this point? He's not Luka or Morant but compared to SGA he may very well be. Let's leave Zion out of the discussion because he feels like a proven player when he actually plays but the ability to play is obviously a key concern with him.

[The-Power]

No Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero?

Suggs had a terrible year that was plagued with injuries but was still around 15th in defensive Raptor.

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not sure how I missed that one - yes that's def in the mix here.

I also think Indiana deserves a shout-out with Haliburton and Mathurin plus either Duarte or Jackson (whoever one prefers, neither really moves the needle I suppose). I for one wouldn't rank them last in this exercise.

NOP also has a nice trio with Herb, Murphy and Daniels. But I can understand why you wouldn't include them because they aren't as highly-touted and aside from Dyson on the older side for a non-proven core. Still, that's an awesome complementary trio to a star player.

[SeattleJazzFan]

in terms of who you'd rather have moving forward in a vacuum


CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams

probably the houston trio, but it's close. the charlotte trio (because of lamelo who is the best player on that list), the cleveland trio and the detroit trio are right there as well. the other three have a ton of potential as well.

with garland and mobley, the cleveland trio is the surest thing at this point - the only group with with two proven all-star caliber players.

[EvanZ]

in terms of who you'd rather have moving forward in a vacuum


CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams

You have to take Garland and Mobley today regardless of the 3rd guy that sucks there.

[zimpy27]

CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley
Got to go with Cavs as the best, would've been amazing if they landed Dieng like they tried to.

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun
Actually pretty keen to see a Garuba/Jabari pairing personally. Reminds me of the other young pieces they have. I think they could be the Vince/T-Mac remake we never got to see.

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren
I think these guys have the highest ceiling in the list, putting them 3rd because I expect it to pay off partially but enough to be this high up.

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren
Don't love this group as much as others do here. I think they will have perimeter defense issues but offensively they will be a force.

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams
Don't like Bouknight and Mark is a bit unknown to me. LaMelo is an all star already

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan
I like this team, just need to wait a year or so to see which way Primo goes.

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman
Don't like Wiseman's outlook from here, he tanks the trio a bit for me.

[LewisnotMiller]

Great thread. Not taking into account other teams I'd rank them:

DET: Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey / Jalen Duren
Awesome duo with Ivey and Cunningham, both were #1 on my big boards for those years, and they fit super well. Cade also has one of the highest floors in this exercise. Not particularly high on Duren but he's a fine piece with those two players I suppose, and ultimately I care about what the duo brings much more than the trio.

CLE: Darius Garland / Ochai Agbaji / Evan Mobley
Again, very high on the Garland-Mobley duo. That's a great fit and the talent is awesome. I'm still a bit higher on Cade than Mobley; and Ivey has ways to go to become as good as Garland but if he improves well (far from guaranteed), he is less likely to be targeted in the playoffs. Agbaji doesn't do much for me. So I have them slightly behind DET but it's very close and could go either way – this may indeed be the somewhat safer pick.

HOU: Jalen Green / Jabari Smith Jr. / Alperen Sengun
I like the Green and Jabari combo but not as much as the other duos. Feels like they both still need a high-level playmaker to be utilized fully, so that's a notable hole the two other duos don't have. Sengun is a fine prospect but once again, doesn't move the needle that much here. If we'd add other players, they'd have be closer to the two above though – I like Christopher and (although not as much as others) Eason. Unlikely to overtake them either way, though.

OKC: Josh Giddey / Ousmane Dieng / Chet Holmgren
It's close with HOU. I'm not as high on Giddey and Chet as a lot of others but still consider them good prospects. Higher on Dieng than most. Ultimately, I can't put them at the top because I'm still not sure they have that superstar yet; they'll have to hope one of them develops into that. As of now, it's also unclear how well they fit – could be synergetic, but could also be an issue with players that may need the ball to maximize their talent. Of course if you'd add SGA (plus Williams), that changes things and I would strongly consider them for the top spot.

GSW: Moses Moody / Jonathan Kuminga / James Wiseman
I still like all of these prospects but – akin to OKC – I don't yet see a future All-NBA player here. It's possible but odds are not that great. Moody is an awesome complementary pick, Wiseman I still like but I need to see his feel for the game come around, and Kuminga is the wildcard – he could blow up or fizzle out. Highest chance to become a star, but may also never be an impact player. If you had included Poole, I'd have them higher (probably behind CLE and ahead of HOU).

SAS: Josh Primo / Devin Vassell / Jeremy Sochan
Tough to decide between them and CHA. I like the Spurs combo more in terms of playoff resilience (something I value highly) but once again, I struggle to see a star yet. Primo has the best chance but it's still a long shot. Sochan may be the king of impact stats but will always need someone around him that carries the offense and lets him focus on what he does so well. Vassell is a nice complementary player but doesn't affect the ranking all that much.

CHA: LaMelo Ball / James Bouknight / Mark Williams
Feels wrong to place them last because LaMelo has better odds to become an All-NBA player than anyone on the four teams ahead of him. But I still I have concerns how good he'll be in the playoffs, and how much he contributes to winning ultimately, and some concerns about his attitude or approach (that matters for this exercise because reliable players are easier to build around). The bigger problem, however, is that Bouknight does nothing for me here, and Williams is a fine prospect but not someone who moves the needle all that much for this exercise.

edit: The suggested Orlando trio (Franz Wagner / Jalen Suggs / Paolo Banchero) I'd have comparable to GSW – not sure which of them to rank higher – but a bit below the OKC trio. I like Wagner but not as high on Banchero as a lot of others (still a good prospect) and Suggs is more likely to be a complementary than a star player in my opinion. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they end up being a very good trio but still one where the truly elite franchise player is missing.

My views are close enough to this that I'm just going to +1 it and save myself some typing.

I think I'd have Charlotte above GSW and SAS, but that's purely a LaMelo potentiality call. Not high on Bouknight or Williams really.