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Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:10 pm
by NotMyKawhi
That was a huge mistake. Take the L and change it back.

Just bc one year, Kwame, Tyson, Curry, all top 3. Mind you, Kwame did play in the league and get multiple contracts. Curry got a huge contract and Tyson was one of the best defenders in the game at one point, champion... They spoke too soon.

When they started doing it in 95!

KG HOF
Kobe HOF
Jermaine Oneil 6x all-star
TMAC HOF
Al Harrington frindge all-star, solid career
Rashasd Lewis All-star
Bender- bust I guess but played good before getting the 2nd contract
Darius Miles was a decent player. Didn't reach his potential but not a bust
Deshawn Stevenson like him or hate him he's done his thing for a while now
Kwame - bust for a 1st overall pick
Chandler- all defense
Curry- not total bust, injuries
Diop bust I guess but he played a little. Not totally useless
Amare was a prolly HOF
Lebron HOF
Travis Outlaw was a solid role player
ebi bust
Perkins was a solid big. Good pick
Dwight HOF
Shaun Livngston pre injury was superstar potential, solid role player after that
Swift Bust
Telfair bust
Al Jefferson all-star great pick
Josh Smith all-star great pick
JR Smith, solid role player, good pick

Then guys like Webster, Bynum, Gerald Green, CJ Miles, Montae Ellis, Lou Williams, Blalche, Amir Johnson, solid NBA careers, were the last guys before they ended it.



Ok there was a couple busts in there but the numbers aren't in favor of keeping them out of the draft

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:51 pm
by Duke4life831
I dont think it was a huge L for the league. None of these players were good their rookie years and I dont think anyone would make the argument that if they werent able to go straight to the NBA they wouldnt have had as good of careers.

I get Im probably in the minority but I dont see why the NBA would do this. Especially with no longer having the discussions on players straight out of high school cant make a living. You can make millions of dollars playing domestically in college or the G League.

If anything I think this should be a huge business opportunity for the NBA when it comes to the G League. Take away the draft age all together. If a team wants to spend a pick on a 16 year old let them. Id just keep the playing age eligibility the same though. This would make the G League a more involved development league. A kid can go pro at any age and can make great money whenever he wants. While bringing bigger names to the G League and without any negative affect of having 17-18 year olds playing in the NBA.

Again I know Im mostly in the minority on this, just think with guys having multiple options right after high school to make great money and also not have to go the college route, having straight out of high school players in the NBA isnt that much a big deal.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:43 pm
by Worm Guts
With HS players you get a bunch of players on rosters who are mainly just they have potential. The league might be in better position if the limit was even a year or two older.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:09 am
by SelfishPlayer
There isn't a whole lot of off the court issues with those high school guys in comparison to the college guys. The college guys have a higher incidence of off the court issues.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:37 am
by clyde21
im fine where its at right now, i think this will help turn the G League into a real developmental league which should be a priority for the NBA imo.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:16 pm
by Colbinii
Worm Guts wrote:With HS players you get a bunch of players on rosters who are mainly just they have potential. The league might be in better position if the limit was even a year or two older.


This is already the case currently though with 19 year olds.

Wouldn't a benefit from an increased and better developmental league [The G League] mean we could see more 18 year olds playing in the G-league rather than College?

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:12 pm
by azcatz11
Colbinii wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:With HS players you get a bunch of players on rosters who are mainly just they have potential. The league might be in better position if the limit was even a year or two older.


This is already the case currently though with 19 year olds.

Wouldn't a benefit from an increased and better developmental league [The G League] mean we could see more 18 year olds playing in the G-league rather than College?


What's the advantage of the G League over college when you can make more money via NIL, have a year of the college life, play in front of packed houses (no one cares about G League)?

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:32 pm
by Colbinii
azcatz11 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:With HS players you get a bunch of players on rosters who are mainly just they have potential. The league might be in better position if the limit was even a year or two older.


This is already the case currently though with 19 year olds.

Wouldn't a benefit from an increased and better developmental league [The G League] mean we could see more 18 year olds playing in the G-league rather than College?


What's the advantage of the G League over college when you can make more money via NIL, have a year of the college life, play in front of packed houses (no one cares about G League)?


Better training, Acclamation to the Professional Scene of the NBA, Spending time around NBA Professionals, Building Relationships with Professional Athletes and Companies to build a stronger brand

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:39 pm
by azcatz11
Colbinii wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
This is already the case currently though with 19 year olds.

Wouldn't a benefit from an increased and better developmental league [The G League] mean we could see more 18 year olds playing in the G-league rather than College?


What's the advantage of the G League over college when you can make more money via NIL, have a year of the college life, play in front of packed houses (no one cares about G League)?


Better training, Acclamation to the Professional Scene of the NBA, Spending time around NBA Professionals, Building Relationships with Professional Athletes and Companies to build a stronger brand


I don’t think better training outweighs the positives I’ve laid out or leads to higher draft position.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:06 pm
by clyde21
azcatz11 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
What's the advantage of the G League over college when you can make more money via NIL, have a year of the college life, play in front of packed houses (no one cares about G League)?


Better training, Acclamation to the Professional Scene of the NBA, Spending time around NBA Professionals, Building Relationships with Professional Athletes and Companies to build a stronger brand


I don’t think better training outweighs the positives I’ve laid out or leads to higher draft position.


i guess it depends on where the priorities are for each player

personally I'd go G League if I was in that position, don't have to worry about college politics or attending classes or taking tests, i get to focus 100% of my time on basketball while getting coached up by and playing against players that have been in the league for years.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:46 pm
by Colbinii
azcatz11 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
What's the advantage of the G League over college when you can make more money via NIL, have a year of the college life, play in front of packed houses (no one cares about G League)?


Better training, Acclamation to the Professional Scene of the NBA, Spending time around NBA Professionals, Building Relationships with Professional Athletes and Companies to build a stronger brand


I don’t think better training outweighs the positives I’ve laid out or leads to higher draft position.


Well nothing is stopping a human to make a decision to go to college for one year, right?

This rule simply allows for decisions to be made by humans.

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:46 am
by NO-KG-AI
I don’t think any meaningful development happens in 1 year of college basketball, so you’re basically getting what you would have gotten except a year older, with a bit more mileage on them.

The sooner a guy gets to the NBA and starts learning better strength and conditioning habits, gets professional skill coaches, and gets all the resources in the world, the better it is for both the player and the league long term.

Honestly, 1 extra year of LeBron James or Kobe Bryant is probably worth how much in revenue to the NBA? Lol

Re: Will we ever get HS players in the Draft again?

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:52 am
by CobraCommander
If they going to colleges only for the benefit of the college then why not go to nba if they can make it work. In a free market the risk and rewards work themselves out over time. Teams pick too many bust and you will have players choosing to go to college to show they can play...