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Post#1 » by EvanZ » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:10 pm

I just want a thread dedicated to dudes that probably have no NBA future but are kind of incredible at the college level. Guys like Jake Stephens, Zach Edey and Donovan Clingan.

Stephens in particular may be the weirdest intersection of size, skill and LACK of athletic ability that I can remember in my lifetime. The dude literally keeps growing an inch every year and now stands at a giant 7' 275 with an absolutely insane 7'10" wingspan.

HE HAS ZERO DUNKS THIS SEASON!!! :lol: He might literally be the most immobile big of all time. It's so sad because otherwise he's so damn skilled.
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Post#2 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:00 pm

I gotta throw in Drew Timme in on this thread. Probably has no real shot at a lengthy NBA career (will probably get drafted 2nd round then bounce around on some 2 way contracts) because he cant shoot 3s, will get picked apart on the defensive end with the pace and space of the NBA. But he flat out toys with college competition.
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Post#3 » by Kobblehead » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:26 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I gotta throw in Drew Timme in on this thread. Probably has no real shot at a lengthy NBA career (will probably get drafted 2nd round then bounce around on some 2 way contracts) because he cant shoot 3s, will get picked apart on the defensive end with the pace and space of the NBA. But he flat out toys with college competition.

I think Drew Timme's playmaking gives him a shot to overcome the odds and actually stick in the NBA.
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Post#4 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:33 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I gotta throw in Drew Timme in on this thread. Probably has no real shot at a lengthy NBA career (will probably get drafted 2nd round then bounce around on some 2 way contracts) because he cant shoot 3s, will get picked apart on the defensive end with the pace and space of the NBA. But he flat out toys with college competition.

I think Drew Timme's playmaking gives him a shot to overcome the odds and actually stick in the NBA.


I would love it if he does stick. I just dont think his playmaking is good enough to be a difference maker for him. Im just not sure what position does he play in the NBA? Not big enough or good enough rim protector to play the 5 and I sure as hell woudlnt want him running around defending the perimeter. Then on offense how do you use him? His best skill set is his ability to score in the low post, I dont see teams drawing up plays to let him go to work down low. And again he is pretty much a 1:1 assists to turnover guy in college, not sure he is good enough to run a high post offense through him.

Again I love watching him play and would love to see him stick in the NBA. I just think Timme is kind of the poster child of, fantastic and elite for college, while just not having the physical attributes and skill set to make it in the NBA.
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Post#5 » by azcatz11 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:47 pm

Why doesn’t Edey have a future!?
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Post#6 » by EvanZ » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:15 am

azcatz11 wrote:Why doesn’t Edey have a future!?

What do you think it is?


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Post#7 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:28 am

Sanogo, but maybe closer to an an actual guy than an oddity
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Post#8 » by EvanZ » Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:15 am

clyde21 wrote:Sanogo, but maybe closer to an an actual guy than an oddity

I mean he’s kinda like Tshiebwe basically


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Post#9 » by andyhop » Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:23 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I gotta throw in Drew Timme in on this thread. Probably has no real shot at a lengthy NBA career (will probably get drafted 2nd round then bounce around on some 2 way contracts) because he cant shoot 3s, will get picked apart on the defensive end with the pace and space of the NBA. But he flat out toys with college competition.

I think Drew Timme's playmaking gives him a shot to overcome the odds and actually stick in the NBA.


I just think he will be able to make enough overseas and have a major role on a team there that makes a life of G League , 2 way contracts and end of bench unguaranteed deals unappetising to him
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Post#10 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:24 am

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clyde21 wrote:Sanogo, but maybe closer to an an actual guy than an oddity

I mean he’s kinda like Tshiebwe basically


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?

Sanogo is out here taking 3s at a 40+% clip and running full court sets

Oscar is way more traditional, and way better on the boards

don't see how they are similar at all.
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Post#11 » by EvanZ » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:58 am

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:Sanogo, but maybe closer to an an actual guy than an oddity

I mean he’s kinda like Tshiebwe basically


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?

Sanogo is out here taking 3s at a 40+% clip and running full court sets

Oscar is way more traditional, and way better on the boards

don't see how they are similar at all.

Dude it’s laughable if you think Sanogo is going to be a shooter at the next level. He’s 9-21 and didn’t shoot at all his first couple seasons. I’ve seen Tshiebwe hit midrange jumpers lately. He probably has the same chance of being a shooter as Sanogo long term.


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Post#12 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:04 am

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clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I mean he’s kinda like Tshiebwe basically


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?

Sanogo is out here taking 3s at a 40+% clip and running full court sets

Oscar is way more traditional, and way better on the boards

don't see how they are similar at all.

Dude it’s laughable if you think Sanogo is going to be a shooter at the next level. He’s 9-21 and didn’t shoot at all his first couple seasons. I’ve seen Tshiebwe hit midrange jumpers lately. He probably has the same chance of being a shooter as Sanogo long term.


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i don't know if Sanogo shooting is projectable to the NBA, that's why i name dropped him in this thread, he's ridiculously fun to watch at the collegiate level.

Big O has a more straightforward path in the NBA b/c he's a hound on the boards, just different players and an odd comp imo
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Post#13 » by EvanZ » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:26 am

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
?

Sanogo is out here taking 3s at a 40+% clip and running full court sets

Oscar is way more traditional, and way better on the boards

don't see how they are similar at all.

Dude it’s laughable if you think Sanogo is going to be a shooter at the next level. He’s 9-21 and didn’t shoot at all his first couple seasons. I’ve seen Tshiebwe hit midrange jumpers lately. He probably has the same chance of being a shooter as Sanogo long term.


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i don't know if Sanogo shooting is projectable to the NBA, that's why i name dropped him in this thread, he's ridiculously fun to watch at the collegiate level.

Big O has a more straightforward path in the NBA b/c he's a hound on the boards, just different players and an odd comp imo


I mean they are different, if only because Sanogo isn't that good at the things he needs to be like rebounding, rim protection etc. So you have a point.
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Post#14 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:58 am

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EvanZ wrote:Dude it’s laughable if you think Sanogo is going to be a shooter at the next level. He’s 9-21 and didn’t shoot at all his first couple seasons. I’ve seen Tshiebwe hit midrange jumpers lately. He probably has the same chance of being a shooter as Sanogo long term.


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i don't know if Sanogo shooting is projectable to the NBA, that's why i name dropped him in this thread, he's ridiculously fun to watch at the collegiate level.

Big O has a more straightforward path in the NBA b/c he's a hound on the boards, just different players and an odd comp imo


I mean they are different, if only because Sanogo isn't that good at the things he needs to be like rebounding, rim protection etc. So you have a point.


and Sanogo, at least at the college level, can shoot and pass and they actually give him inside-out and full court on ball looks, so yea they are nothing a like lol.

also if this thread isn't for players like Sanogo not sure what it's for.
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Post#15 » by DOT » Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:48 pm

Sanogo is like if Al Horford didn't have lateral mobility. He won't make it in the NBA because he's a tweener, too small to protect the rim, and too slow footed to be in a switching system like other small ball Cs. It is possible his 3pt shooting improves, his free throw % is up to 78% this year from 65% last year, but I'd need to see more to say. Likely not an NBA guy at this rate

I think Clingan will make the league. Teams love big shot blocking Cs, he should at least be a backup for a bit. This is predicated on my assumption he comes back for another year and improves like Kessler last year did.
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Post#16 » by EvanZ » Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:56 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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i don't know if Sanogo shooting is projectable to the NBA, that's why i name dropped him in this thread, he's ridiculously fun to watch at the collegiate level.

Big O has a more straightforward path in the NBA b/c he's a hound on the boards, just different players and an odd comp imo


I mean they are different, if only because Sanogo isn't that good at the things he needs to be like rebounding, rim protection etc. So you have a point.


and Sanogo, at least at the college level, can shoot and pass and they actually give him inside-out and full court on ball looks, so yea they are nothing a like lol.

also if this thread isn't for players like Sanogo not sure what it's for.

Supposed to be for oddities and Sanogo isn’t one. He’s a typical college big. You’re vastly overrating his skill set imo.


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Post#17 » by The-Power » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:05 am

KJ Adams Jr. Listed at 6'7, cannot shoot whatsoever, doesn't rebound well, and yet he plays the 5 for one of the best teams in the country and does so effectively.
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Post#18 » by EvanZ » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:12 am

The-Power wrote:KJ Adams Jr. Listed at 6'7, cannot shoot whatsoever, doesn't rebound well, and yet he plays the 5 for one of the best teams in the country and does so effectively.

Love him! Totally belongs in this thread. Can really pass too and he’s an elite athlete. His name makes no sense because the J in KJ is redundant with calling him Junior. So that’s an oddity in itself.


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Post#19 » by The-Power » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:24 am

EvanZ wrote:
The-Power wrote:KJ Adams Jr. Listed at 6'7, cannot shoot whatsoever, doesn't rebound well, and yet he plays the 5 for one of the best teams in the country and does so effectively.

Love him! Totally belongs in this thread. Can really pass too and he’s an elite athlete. His name makes no sense because the J in KJ is redundant with calling him Junior. So that’s an oddity in itself.

He looks like a player the Warriors should/would be interested in for their SL team and as a potential 2-way player at least.
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Post#20 » by clyde21 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:33 am

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EvanZ wrote:
I mean they are different, if only because Sanogo isn't that good at the things he needs to be like rebounding, rim protection etc. So you have a point.


and Sanogo, at least at the college level, can shoot and pass and they actually give him inside-out and full court on ball looks, so yea they are nothing a like lol.

also if this thread isn't for players like Sanogo not sure what it's for.

Supposed to be for oddities and Sanogo isn’t one. He’s a typical college big. You’re vastly overrating his skill set imo.


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he's not typical at all, not sure if you've actually watched him play? his teammate Clingan, who you mentioned in this thread, is a way more typical college big.

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