Scoot Henderson

Big J · Post #621 » by **Big J** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:23 pm

Laimbeer wrote:I was going to start a thread asking if Scoot is fairly certain to go second - I think my answer is 'no'.

Right, but some people in this thread are acting like if you have anyone over him you're an idiot.

Hal14 · Post #622 » by **Hal14** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:21 am

Interesting.

You watch the strengths section of the vid, and you think he's a lock for the #2 pick.

You watch the weaknesses section, and you're questioning if he even goes top 5 lol.

Watch on YouTube

big-shot-ROB · Post #623 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:24 am

Hal14 wrote:Interesting.

You watch the strengths section of the vid, and you think he's a lock for the #2 pick.

You watch the weaknesses section, and you're questioning if he even goes top 5 lol.

Watch on YouTube

Really?

His question marks are child's play compared to everyone after him.

He's a good midrange shooter, I think that makes it a lock he'll be able to at least get to average from behind the line.

Point guard position is hard, PnR game takes a while to perfect and understand.

Defense could be concerning if after two years you realize he hasn't the mental ability to process it and understand it, but there are no question marks with his athletic ability he can be decent by just trying

BostonCouchGM · Post #624 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:07 pm

Big J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I was going to start a thread asking if Scoot is fairly certain to go second - I think my answer is 'no'.

Right, but some people in this thread are acting like if you have anyone over him you're an idiot.

I really like him and think he's an elite PG prospect but I'm just as high on the twins. #2 shouldn't be set in stone for anyone. #1 is the only thing people should be universally agreed upon.

clyde21 · Post #625 » by **clyde21** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:30 pm

Hal14 wrote:Interesting.

You watch the strengths section of the vid, and you think he's a lock for the #2 pick.

You watch the weaknesses section, and you're questioning if he even goes top 5 lol.

Watch on YouTube

he should be a lock for #2, and they didn't even mention his biggest strength

JMAC3 · Post #626 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:30 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
Big J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I was going to start a thread asking if Scoot is fairly certain to go second - I think my answer is 'no'.

Right, but some people in this thread are acting like if you have anyone over him you're an idiot.

I really like him and think he's an elite PG prospect but I'm just as high on the twins. #2 shouldn't be set in stone for anyone. #1 is the only thing people should be universally agreed upon.

Basically, where I started this process at. If I need a point guard sign me up I think he is probably a ten-year starter, don't know if he is a multi-time all-star, but I can live with it. Where I run into issues is the BPA margin and you just have to jam him into your starting lineup no matter what because he is that elite of a prospect...

If I am Pistons, I am taking Miller over him all day. Instead of jamming him with Cade and Ivey and trying to make it work.

If I am Pacers, Hornets, Blazers I am also not jamming because his fit with Hali, LaMelo and Dame/Simmons doesn't make sense. If a player isn't a good pick for half the teams in the lottery I can't make the case, he is a lock for #2 or #3 pick.

Whereas Miller fits on Spurs, Rockets, Hornets, Pistons, Blazers, Bulls, Wizards, Magic etc etc..

Hal14 · Post #627 » by **Hal14** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:46 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Interesting.

You watch the strengths section of the vid, and you think he's a lock for the #2 pick.

You watch the weaknesses section, and you're questioning if he even goes top 5 lol.

Watch on YouTube

Really?

His question marks are child's play compared to everyone after him.

He's a good midrange shooter, I think that makes it a lock he'll be able to at least get to average from behind the line.

Point guard position is hard, PnR game takes a while to perfect and understand.

Defense could be concerning if after two years you realize he hasn't the mental ability to process it and understand it, but there are no question marks with his athletic ability he can be decent by just trying

Well, I'm just saying that defense and outside shooting are both things that are extremely important in today's NBA. If he can't hit outside shots and if he's also a liability on D, that might not be a great guy to use a top 3 pick on.

And based on the video, there'a a chance that he could struggle in both areas at the next level.

With that being said, I do still have him ranked #2. But there is some cause for concern..

Big J · Post #628 » by **Big J** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:07 pm

I think that most of us here are in agreement that the #2 spot is up for grab after Scoot didn’t really show that he was the guy that he was hyped up to be. Still a nice little player, but no generational dude like we were all led to believe.

clyde21 · Post #629 » by **clyde21** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:34 pm

the retcon this last page isn't gonna change the garbage that was spewed in this thread for 20+ pages lol

JMAC3 · Post #630 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:the retcon this last page isn't gonna change the garbage that was spewed in this thread for 20+ pages lol

You have a disconnect bro.

Have you ever heard someone compare LeBron and Jordan? Just because they point out negatives on one or other doesn't mean they don't think they are a top 10 player in history.

It is no different comparing Scoot to other top 5 prospects.

Big J · Post #631 » by **Big J** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:39 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:the retcon this last page isn't gonna change the garbage that was spewed in this thread for 20+ pages lol

You have a disconnect bro.

Have you ever heard someone compare LeBron and Jordan? Just because they point out negatives on one or other doesn't mean they don't think they are a top 10 player in history.

It is no different comparing Scoot to other top 5 prospects.

Dude is like LaVar Ball propping his sons up with how protective he is of Scoot.

EMG518 · Post #632 » by **EMG518** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:07 pm

I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.

JMAC3 · Post #633 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:12 pm

EMG518 wrote:I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.

Right? Have they not looked at the mocks? Those are never wrong come draft day.

mattao313 · Post #634 » by **mattao313** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:17 pm

EMG518 wrote:I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.

Meh it was people saying that about Jabari Smith going 1st yet he went 3.

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JMAC3 · Post #635 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:23 pm

90% of mock drafts operate in a hive mind.

I can't say that I enjoy the opposite end of the spectrum either where the takes are so wild like a Dean on the Draft for instance.

but yeah give me something in the middle with a few spicy takes. Love when 75% of NFL mock drafts have the same middle linebacker mocked to a team at pick 20.... That doesn't just happen if they aren't relying on what their peers are putting out.

EMG518 · Post #636 » by **EMG518** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.

Right? Have they not looked at the mocks? Those are never wrong come draft day.

I don't even know what this statement has to do with mine. I don't look at mocks.

Big J · Post #637 » by **Big J** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:30 pm

EMG518 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.

Right? Have they not looked at the mocks? Those are never wrong come draft day.

I don't even know what this statement has to do with mine. I don't look at mocks.

NBA GM's have already come out and told media people that they have Miller over him.

EMG518 · Post #638 » by **EMG518** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:30 pm

mattao313 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I can't fathom how anyone can think Scoot is not going #2.
Meh it was people saying that about Jabari Smith going 1st yet he went 3.

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No, it's not the same.

Having the best guard prospect in years slip in the draft is insane.

EMG518 · Post #639 » by **EMG518** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:31 pm

Big J wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Right? Have they not looked at the mocks? Those are never wrong come draft day.

I don't even know what this statement has to do with mine. I don't look at mocks.

NBA GM's have already come out and told media people that they have Miller over him.

I really don't care what has been said by GM's, I personally cant fathom Scoot not going #2.

clyde21 · Post #640 » by **clyde21** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:33 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:the retcon this last page isn't gonna change the garbage that was spewed in this thread for 20+ pages lol

You have a disconnect bro.

Have you ever heard someone compare LeBron and Jordan? Just because they point out negatives on one or other doesn't mean they don't think they are a top 10 player in history.

It is no different comparing Scoot to other top 5 prospects.

nah, you're fully trying to retcon all the garbage you were peddling in this thread, from Scoot being too small to being a bad shooter to unable to finish to being a bad defend. the maths isn't adding up.