Final word on the strength of this draft class

[FarBeyondDriven]

Lot of confusion so I'll try to explain better. Predict how this draft class turns out strength wise when we look back on it in 5 years. Including past draft classes for reference points has been too much for some so they're coming out. If you're between two tiers just use .5 i.e. between average and good is 4.5. Thanks for those participating. I'll be inserting some poster's who aren't using their past comments to gauge their likely vote. If you disagree where you're slotted or change your mind let me know


Tier 1 (Elite/GOAT)


Tier 2 (Excellent)



Tier 3 (Very Good)



Tier 4 (Good)

FarBeyondDriven
SeattleJazzFan
PlatinumState
bucknut

*Tier 4.5

NyBlueMeadow based on - "The more I watch film on the prospects, the more the 2024 draft is looking above average to good..."
QingJames

Tier 5 (Average)

King Ken based on - "Overall, this is a solid draft class"
BigGargamel


*Tier 5.5

MagicMatic

Tier 6 (Bad)

RollingWave
Catchall
Blaze the Nugz
Empire Falls

Tier 7 (Very Bad)

Notanoob
NO-KG-AI
JustBuzzin
EMG518
JMAC3
Dat2U

*Tier 7.5

babyjax13
red_power

Tier 8 (Among the Worst Ever)

HadAnEffectHere - "This is the worst class I've ever seen."
Clyde21
shakes0
NYPiston
BigJ
BenJammin
CptCrunch - "this draft looks to suck major ass"
bigboi - "horrible draft"
johsuacf

[FarBeyondDriven]

As for me, before withdrawals I thought this had a chance to be Very Good (Tier 3) but it has lost 10-12 top 50 players imo. But it also gained half a dozen. But still, it's too much of a loss to be Very Good any longer and I'm not absolutely certain it'll be Good so I'm settling at 4.5 between Average and Good.

[RollingWave]

Probably T6? if the comp is 2005, this draft is unlikely to be better than that. You literally might have American Andrew Bogut also go one.

[FarBeyondDriven]

As for me, before withdrawals I thought this had a chance to be Very Good (Tier 3) but it has lost 10-12 top 50 players imo. But it also gained half a dozen. But still, it's too much of a loss to be Very Good any longer and I'm not absolutely certain it'll be Good so I'm settling at 4.5 between Average and Good.

locking it in for posterity

[FarBeyondDriven]

Probably T6?

k. thanks

[babyjax13]

Avoiding disagreement on some of these drafts, I've got this one in Tier 6 or 7 [bad to very bad] (you list 6 twice, so the bottom is Tier 8). 2006 actually feels like a good comp, a few guys in the running for #1 but no one super satisfying emerged. There will be a couple of guys who pop, and many more who have solid if unspectacular careers. Drafts are deeper now, though, just much more talent around.

[red_power]

Avoiding disagreement on some of these drafts, I've got this one in Tier 6 or 7 [bad to very bad] (you list 6 twice, so the bottom is Tier 8)

Exactly. It depends on the number of lottery selections that turn to be busts.

[NO-KG-AI]

I think it’ll be like 2013 talent wise. A few unexpected guys will emerge from somewhere, but otherwise forgettable.

[shakes0]

The top of the draft has to be among the worst of all time, if not the worst.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Avoiding disagreement on some of these drafts, I've got this one in Tier 6 or 7 [bad to very bad] (you list 6 twice, so the bottom is Tier 8). 2006 actually feels like a good comp, a few guys in the running for #1 but no one super satisfying emerged. There will be a couple of guys who pop, and many more who have solid if unspectacular careers. Drafts are deeper now, though, just much more talent around.

fixed. So I'll put you down for 6.5?

[FarBeyondDriven]

Avoiding disagreement on some of these drafts, I've got this one in Tier 6 or 7 [bad to very bad] (you list 6 twice, so the bottom is Tier 8)

Exactly. It depends on the number of lottery selections that turn to be busts.

so what tier?

[FarBeyondDriven]

I think it’ll be like 2013 talent wise. A few unexpected guys will emerge from somewhere, but otherwise forgettable.

so put you down for Tier 8?

[BigGargamel]

I'm gonna be conservative and say Tier 6. Looking at 2004, I could see something like that. A couple All Stars and a lot of duds.

You would have to be absolutely negative to put it on par with 2000 and 2013. Those are all time stinkers. I can't predict that it will actually end up that bad.

[VFX]

Tier - 5.5

Terrible at the top. Better average players toward the mid to late first/early second round.

[Notanoob]

I'm saying Tier 7. Mostly a bunch of role players coming out, few guys who even look like they have exciting potential. But at least some of these role guys should pan out and stick around.

[babyjax13]

Avoiding disagreement on some of these drafts, I've got this one in Tier 6 or 7 [bad to very bad] (you list 6 twice, so the bottom is Tier 8). 2006 actually feels like a good comp, a few guys in the running for #1 but no one super satisfying emerged. There will be a couple of guys who pop, and many more who have solid if unspectacular careers. Drafts are deeper now, though, just much more talent around.

fixed. So I'll put you down for 6.5?

Yah, that's fair. I expect some variance so my guess is somewhere in there.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm gonna be conservative and say Tier 6. Looking at 2004, I could see something like that. A couple All Stars and a lot of duds.

You would have to be absolutely negative to put it on par with 2000 and 2013. Those are all time stinkers. I can't predict that it will actually end up that bad.

k. thanks!

[CptCrunch]

Tier 5, we are in the modern era with mass amount of basketball talent. Difficult to not have one or two player become semi-stars, low end 2nd option, high end third options like Barnes/Mobley/Cunningham every class. If you look at it, we havne't bad a 'bad' (by your criteria since 2015) and that class failed because Kat has no passion for game, Russell was in LA, Okafor was mismanaged by his team, Zingis had huge injury issues. Hezonja ???

There is an outside chance for one player to reach Tatum level, weak 1b on a championship team, top 10 in the league, no anywhere near MVP level but low end of the superstar. The lack of perceived high end talent is gonna hurt the class.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Tier - 5.5

Terrible at the top. Better average players toward the mid to late first/early second round.

nice. Thanks

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm saying Tier 7. Mostly a bunch of role players coming out, few guys who even look like they have exciting potential. But at least some of these role guys should pan out and stick around.

cool, thanks