Tidjane Salaun

Post #1 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:48 am

After using the search function, it appears this guy never had a thread made for him. Curious to hear thoughts on the Hornets #6 pick.

God Squad · Post #2 » by **God Squad** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:10 pm

IMO the first reach, but that's because I think he's boom or bust. But the top of this draft had no "consensus", so maybe it'll work out. But admittedly I didn't like him as much as many in the draft circles.

FarBeyondDriven · Post #3 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:19 pm

I love the talent. Just seems like he won't be able to contribute right away and another losing season will see Melo potentially demanding a trade. If this group stays together it could be a great fit as he pushes Miller to his more appropriate SF role and his skills (C & S threes and cutting to the basket) will compliment Melo. I gave the grade a C just because the Hornets should really be trying to win now and Salaun won't be helping with that, at least for this season imho.

Upperclass · Post #4 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:45 pm

Doesnt fit the Hornets but would've been fantastic on the Spurs

Post #5 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:18 pm

Upperclass wrote:Doesnt fit the Hornets but would've been fantastic on the Spurs

Why? Particularly given that the Hornets have a new FO and coaching staff.

_jin · Post #6 » by **_jin** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:56 pm

Upperclass wrote:Doesnt fit the Hornets but would've been fantastic on the Spurs

Spurs would have been ideal but I'm glad that he's on the Hornets. I hate that he's goign to be aroudn that POS Bridges but other than that, playing with LaMelo and Micic and having guaranteed playing time from the get go as a #6 pick, he's going to have opportunities to play and develop.

amcoolio · Post #7 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:01 pm

_jin wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Doesnt fit the Hornets but would've been fantastic on the Spurs

Spurs would have been ideal but I'm glad that he's on the Hornets. I hate that he's goign to be aroudn that POS Bridges but other than that, playing with LaMelo and Micic and having guaranteed playing time from the get go as a #6 pick, he's going to have opportunities to play and develop.

It's looking increasingly likely Miles isn't returning

2weekswithpay · Post #8 » by **2weekswithpay** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:20 pm

May seem like hyperbole but Salaun might be the worst shot blocking prospect I've seen. RealGM has him with only 17 blocks in the last 2 seasons in France and that's with over 2,000 minutes played. Even when Salaun was in the French u21 league, he still couldn't get any blocks. Not good for a player his size with his athleticism. This is a pretty big red flag to me regarding his overall feel. A positive is that he does have a knack for getting steals and works hard apparently.

Salaun needs a lot of work on both ends and I don't like picking him 6th overall.

Upperclass · Post #9 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:40 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Doesnt fit the Hornets but would've been fantastic on the Spurs

Why? Particularly given that the Hornets have a new FO and coaching staff.

Hornets need a player with a more serious type of game with the casual personalities of their best players.. Ball.. Miller.. Bridges.. Matas would've been a better fit IMO. He plays with energy and purpose.. Tidjane is fairly chill and casual himself

EmpireFalls · Post #10 » by **EmpireFalls** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:54 am

The motor is insane. The athleticism is (slightly) overrated, but mainly because the footwork is so unbelievably loose and inefficient. The shot is a lot better than I think people realize, and imo the biggest redeeming factor. The rest is all flashes.

The handle is horrendous. The willingness to use it is encouraging. The feel is awful. His touch is absolutely laughably poor. But, the instincts are actually decent. The cutting and rotating is done with the right intensity, but without any understanding.

I think he's about 2 years away and has an extremely low floor. His ceiling is basically Obi Toppin or a midrange-less Rui Hachimura, because no prospect has ever gone from this poor feel to 'great feel'. People saying he's a potential 5 are hilarious. You think this guy can execute advanced PnR coverage and anchor a defense, like ever? Feel and touch is one of the hardest things to improve. I'm not a fan of the pick in the 6th spot and have been outspoken about this, but I am rooting for him.

FarBeyondDriven · Post #11 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:29 am

classic high risk high reward

GSWFan1994 · Post #12 » by **GSWFan1994** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:58 am

2weekswithpay wrote:May seem like hyperbole but Salaun might be the worst shot blocking prospect I've seen. RealGM has him with only 17 blocks in the last 2 seasons in France and that's with over 2,000 minutes played. Even when Salaun was in the French u21 league, he still couldn't get any blocks. Not good for a player his size with his athleticism. This is a pretty big red flag to me regarding his overall feel. A positive is that he does have a knack for getting steals and works hard apparently.

Salaun needs a lot of work on both ends and I don't like picking him 6th overall.

Good find, but it's worth noting that Dillon Jones had 8 blocks in 3,900 minutes... now that must be some record! :lol:

BlazersBroncos · Post #13 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:51 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:May seem like hyperbole but Salaun might be the worst shot blocking prospect I've seen. RealGM has him with only 17 blocks in the last 2 seasons in France and that's with over 2,000 minutes played. Even when Salaun was in the French u21 league, he still couldn't get any blocks. Not good for a player his size with his athleticism. This is a pretty big red flag to me regarding his overall feel. A positive is that he does have a knack for getting steals and works hard apparently.

Salaun needs a lot of work on both ends and I don't like picking him 6th overall.

Good find, but it's worth noting that Dillon Jones had 8 blocks in 3,900 minutes... now that must be some record!

Neither Salaun or Dillon are going to be NBA caliber athletes.

Salaun needs a head of steam. He is horrible jumping off 2 feet. Dillon is just fake Draymond who wont make it IMO.

KembaWalker · Post #14 » by **KembaWalker** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:59 am

Not hard to imagine him as a serviceable stretch 4 replacing what PJ Washington did for us. Good size and awesome release. We’ll see if he can add some grown man strength on top of that high motor and become more

bucknut · Post #15 » by **bucknut** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:42 am

What is the consensus on developing touch 2 to 4 feet from the basket ? To me if you don't have it that close to the rim....it's set for life. Whereas a floater can be improved. This dude has 0 touch that I can see being improved

To me I say I don't see the upside ....but then I could see those who look at it like well he's just like risacher who can't score inside but your getting an energy beast who can shoot threes and maybe develop on the boards ...basically a bigger more intense physical risacher

My opinion is he's a bench energy guy at best. Some raw skills you can develop some you can't. I kinda think his touch and footwork are the latter

For buzelis and sarr for example have good feet and just lack strength in finishing....saluan is just clumsy.

If your clumsy I need you to be 7 2 to give you a chance to develop

BigGargamel · Post #16 » by **BigGargamel** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:01 am

I don't see the point of this pick. Even in a "weak" draft there were a half a dozen guys I would have taken over him. Like, I'd be very surprised if he ended up being better then Knecht or Williams.

mattao313 · Post #17 » by **mattao313** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:45 pm

DJ wilson clone

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remi_222 · Post #18 » by **remi_222** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:31 pm

bucknut wrote:What is the consensus on developing touch 2 to 4 feet from the basket ? To me if you don't have it that close to the rim....it's set for life. Whereas a floater can be improved. This dude has 0 touch that I can see being improved

To me I say I don't see the upside ....but then I could see those who look at it like well he's just like risacher who can't score inside but your getting an energy beast who can shoot threes and maybe develop on the boards ...basically a bigger more intense physical risacher

My opinion is he's a bench energy guy at best. Some raw skills you can develop some you can't. I kinda think his touch and footwork are the latter

For buzelis and sarr for example have good feet and just lack strength in finishing....saluan is just clumsy.

If your clumsy I need you to be 7 2 to give you a chance to develop

So, for you, work and development don't matter when we talk abt a 18yrs old kid who hasnt played a single game in the NBA yet ?

bucknut · Post #19 » by **bucknut** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:40 am

remi_222 wrote:
bucknut wrote:What is the consensus on developing touch 2 to 4 feet from the basket ? To me if you don't have it that close to the rim....it's set for life. Whereas a floater can be improved. This dude has 0 touch that I can see being improved

To me I say I don't see the upside ....but then I could see those who look at it like well he's just like risacher who can't score inside but your getting an energy beast who can shoot threes and maybe develop on the boards ...basically a bigger more intense physical risacher

My opinion is he's a bench energy guy at best. Some raw skills you can develop some you can't. I kinda think his touch and footwork are the latter

For buzelis and sarr for example have good feet and just lack strength in finishing....saluan is just clumsy.

If your clumsy I need you to be 7 2 to give you a chance to develop

So, for you, work and development don't matter when we talk abt a 18yrs old kid who hasnt played a single game in the NBA yet ?

Yes some kids never develop certain skills. I just read salaun has been playing basketball since 7 years old. And he still has 0 touch around the rim non strength related. Missi just started playing 3 years ago. Missi has a lot better of a baseline and coordinated skills to develop then salaun. Just my opinion.

remi_222 · Post #20 » by **remi_222** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:57 am

bucknut wrote:
remi_222 wrote:
bucknut wrote:What is the consensus on developing touch 2 to 4 feet from the basket ? To me if you don't have it that close to the rim....it's set for life. Whereas a floater can be improved. This dude has 0 touch that I can see being improved

To me I say I don't see the upside ....but then I could see those who look at it like well he's just like risacher who can't score inside but your getting an energy beast who can shoot threes and maybe develop on the boards ...basically a bigger more intense physical risacher

My opinion is he's a bench energy guy at best. Some raw skills you can develop some you can't. I kinda think his touch and footwork are the latter

For buzelis and sarr for example have good feet and just lack strength in finishing....saluan is just clumsy.

If your clumsy I need you to be 7 2 to give you a chance to develop

So, for you, work and development don't matter when we talk abt a 18yrs old kid who hasnt played a single game in the NBA yet ?

Yes some kids never develop certain skills. I just read salaun has been playing basketball since 7 years old. And he still has 0 touch around the rim non strength related. Missi just started playing 3 years ago. Missi has a lot better of a baseline and coordinated skills to develop then salaun. Just my opinion.

sounds like an important opinion to be trashing that kid like that. Not going to debate with you bc your point has no purpuse since you havent watched Salaun played EVER !!!!!!