Kon Knueppel

[JMAC3]

Didn't see a thread for him on the board.

This might be my next polarizing prospect, I have seen him in the 7-15 range on most big boards. Personally, I feel like I am lower on him than most but I can also see it being a struggle to find 13 guys to rank ahead of him. Listed at 6-7, this might be the rare occasion that I might actually feel better about a prospect if they measure shorter than they are listed, I know that is a weird thing to say.

Duke Starters listed height, rebounds per game and Dunks/Dunk Attempts
Cooper Flagg 6'9 - 7.5 rpg - 35/38 dunks
Khaman Maluach 7'2 - 6.5 rpg - 80/90 dunks
Kon Kneuppel 6'7 - 3.9 rpg - 2/5 dunks
Tyrese Proctor 6'5 - 3.1 rpg - 8/8 dunks
Sion James 6'5 - 4.2 rpg 16/18 dunks

So here is where when I say if he measured shorter I might feel better about his lack of rebounding and lack of dunks.

I have a been a pretty big believer that dunks is a pretty good indicator of athleticism within a prospect so being 6-7 with only 2 dunks is very concerning, for a guy that doesn't show the best lateral movement as a defender as well.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I see a lot of Joe Ingles to his game. Grounded yet methodical. Lights out shooter and manages to get his shot off Quickley. Great vision and good enough ball-handling at his size to make decisions on-ball.

FWIW, Ingles peaked at 6 drunks in an 82 game season and has 23 career dunks.

The problem of course with this type of prospect is if his shot isn't as good or his playmaking isn't impactful, he has no athleticism to fall back on for a floor as a basketball player.

Seems like a Miami guy to pair with his fellow Wisconsinite in Herro.

[JMAC3]

I see a lot of Joe Ingles to his game. Grounded yet methodical. Lights out shooter and manages to get his shot off Quickley. Great vision and good enough ball-handling at his size to make decisions on-ball.

FWIW, Ingles peaked at 6 drunks in an 82 game season and has 23 career dunks.

The problem of course with this type of prospect is if his shot isn't as good or his playmaking isn't impactful, he has no athleticism to fall back on for a floor as a basketball player.

Seems like a Miami guy to pair with his fellow Wisconsinite in Herro.

Spending a top 10 pick with Joe Ingles as a comp is a tough look, Ingles during his 8 yr prime with Jazz was a 8.6 ppg, 3 rebound, 3.5 apg guy with a peak of 12 ppg.

[tester551]

I see a lot of Joe Ingles to his game. Grounded yet methodical. Lights out shooter and manages to get his shot off Quickley. Great vision and good enough ball-handling at his size to make decisions on-ball.

FWIW, Ingles peaked at 6 drunks in an 82 game season and has 23 career dunks.

The problem of course with this type of prospect is if his shot isn't as good or his playmaking isn't impactful, he has no athleticism to fall back on for a floor as a basketball player.

Seems like a Miami guy to pair with his fellow Wisconsinite in Herro.

Jingles is a good comp.

I see a slightly better Grayson Allen. Allen is more in line with Kneuppel's size and shooting abilities.
Basically - I think he's going to be a great 5/6th type man with good shooting. Willing to do a lot of the 'dirty' work.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I see a lot of Joe Ingles to his game. Grounded yet methodical. Lights out shooter and manages to get his shot off Quickley. Great vision and good enough ball-handling at his size to make decisions on-ball.

FWIW, Ingles peaked at 6 drunks in an 82 game season and has 23 career dunks.

The problem of course with this type of prospect is if his shot isn't as good or his playmaking isn't impactful, he has no athleticism to fall back on for a floor as a basketball player.

Seems like a Miami guy to pair with his fellow Wisconsinite in Herro.

Spending a top 10 pick with Joe Ingles as a comp is a tough look, Ingles during his 8 yr prime with Jazz was a 8.6 ppg, 3 rebound, 3.5 apg guy with a peak of 12 ppg.

Depends on how you evaluate players and depends on the rest of the draft. Getting Joe Ingles in last year's draft in the #7-14 range would be a massive win. This year's draft seems better at the top end, but I still need to evaluate the back half of the Lottery to get a good understanding.

Ingles also had a 4-year "Peak" of 11.4 PPG, 3.9 Rebounds, 5.1 Assists, 2.0 BPM, and two seasons > 100 TS+ and excellent +/- metrics as a key member of multiple 50-win teams.

I think if you can project a player as Joe Ingles, getting that player needs to be outside of the Top 10, clearly, but I wouldn't wave away a pick in the low-teens (12-15).

[RipCity71252]

I like him quite a bit, but I understand teams wanting to chase more ceiling in the lottery.

He's like a 6'6" Payton Pritchard with a sprinkle of Devin Booker from a mid range scoring craft perspective which I think we'll be useful in mismatch situations. Good first step and has the footwork and strength to maintain advantages off the dribble. Defensively I think he's underrated as a lateral mover, plays angles fairly well and his strength allows him to wall off drives. I do worry about his ground coverage in the NBA space though so he's best in a heavy switch scheme like Duke runs.

Overall I'm pretty confident he's going to be a positive impact player with a ceiling swinging on how much usage he'll be able to take on.

[EvanZ]

Like a less athletic Corey Kispert basically.

[Upperclass]

Median outcome reminds me of Bogdan Bogdanovic.. I think he will be a better pro and will be some teams(Wizards) starting point. Knock down shooter, his hoopsIQ is amongst the best in basketball and he sees the floor like a PG. He should be a decent team defender while also not being able to keep anyone in front like most NBA guards. Would take him Top 5 with Carter Bryant, Dylan Harper in the mix.

[CptCrunch]

Duke is getting a 5 for 1 with the commit from Kon the 2nd.

Kager 27, Kinston 28, Kash 29, Kidman 30 are going to end up with 2-3 more 5 stars.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Like a less athletic Corey Kispert basically.

Not at all. Kispert showed 0 playmaking in college.

[NotMyKawhi]

Poormams luka

[JMAC3]

Like a less athletic Corey Kispert basically.

Not at all. Kispert showed 0 playmaking in college.

I could be wrong, but the majority of his playmaking I have seen has been on lobs to Maluach. I haven't seen a ton of playmaking where he is making a lot of different reads, off the pick and roll and finding shooters with advanced passes.

Duke is tough to evaluate this year imo, because they are just so loaded with talent that somebody is going to get an open shot every time down the floor and you really don't have to force anything. You can't help off Sion, Proctor or Kon at all (all over 40%), so that just makes sending any help at all a lob to Malauch who is just way bigger than most college defenders. Even vs Arizona they started two guys that were 6-8 against Duke.

As it relates to Kon, he gets a ton of 1 on 1 with the floor completely open where he can really take his time pump faking, spinning vs a smaller defender inside of 10 ft. Most college teams are able to send multiple guys at him and force him to give the ball up more consistently. I thought most of the drives I have seen have been very slow and kind of awkward, not a fan of his handle, burst or explosion near the rim.

[Upperclass]

Poormams luka

He really does remind me of Luka also.. it's quite interesting.. he also doesn't have that kind of size to capitalize on that specific style of play

[jasonxxx102]

Like a less athletic Corey Kispert basically.

Not at all. Kispert showed 0 playmaking in college.

What NBA level play making has Knueppel showed?

[jasonxxx102]

Poormams luka

He really does remind me of Luka also.. it's quite interesting.. he also doesn't have that kind of size to capitalize on that specific style of play

He has none of the talent that Luka has lmfao. He's also taller, not even sure what you mean by he doesn't have the size. He doesn't have any of the skill to play like that.

The only thing those 2 players have in common is that they're both white. From a skill perspective there is 0 overlap

[CptCrunch]

Kon does play like Luka. Anyone who disagrees doesn't watch his game.

Kon is a very good half court playmaker, and is a NBA quality pick and roll initiator.

This kid is an great athleticism from broken. If he had Cooper's athleticism, he would go #2 before Harper.

[jasonxxx102]

The takes on here are just so wild sometimes.

He's definitely Luka if you only consider being a 6'7 white guy with below average NBA athleticism and good fundamentals with none of the other all time elite skills.

[Upperclass]

Poormams luka

He really does remind me of Luka also.. it's quite interesting.. he also doesn't have that kind of size to capitalize on that specific style of play

He has none of the talent that Luka has lmfao. He's also taller, not even sure what you mean by he doesn't have the size. He doesn't have any of the skill to play like that.

The only thing those 2 players have in common is that they're both white. From a skill perspective there is 0 overlap

He doesn't have Luka talent.. noone does. Their play styles can be similar without the talent equating. He's also not taller than Luka by an stretch.

[azcatz11]

Bigger Luke Kennard with less playmaking

[BlazersBroncos]

Don’t see Luka at all.

Ceiling seems like Reaves with a better 3? Or Bogdan maybe. I get the Ingles comp as well but see Kon scoring more and not being the defender (Joe by all advanced measures was an elite wing defender in his prime).