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Revisting the 05 draft
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:10 pm
by DanTown8587
Look, I'm not gonna say Atlanta should have drafted Chris Paul or Deron Williams because thats obvious. But if the draft was held tomorrow, what would the first ten picks be? I will give you some notable players from that draft:
Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Andrew Bynum, Marvin Williams, Andrew Bogut, Raymond Felton, Danny Granger, Charlie Villanueva, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Jason Maxiell, Monta Ellis, Louis Williams, Ryan Gomes, Andray Blatche, Rashard McCants
Here is my revised top ten
Milwaukee: Chris Paul
Atlanta: Andrew Bynum
Utah: Deron Williams
New Orleans: Monta Ellis
Charlotte: Andrew Bogut
Portland: Danny Granger
Toronto: Marvin Williams
New York: Raymond Felton
Golden State: Charlie Villanueva
LA Lakers: Andray Blatche
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:05 am
by Jack Haley
I would say...
1. Mil: Chris Paul
2. Atl: Andrew Bynum
3. Utah: Deron Williams
4. NO: Marvin Williams
5. Cha: Andrew Bogut
6. Por: Danny Granger
7. Tor: Monta Ellis
8. NY: Martell Webster
9. GS: Rashad Mccants
10. LAL: Raymond Felton
I'll admit that I thought Paul was overrated before the draft. A little bit undersized, good but not great athlete... didn't quite see the hype, but I guess that's why I'm not an NBA scout. He's been great since day 1 and has only gotten better. A 20/10 PG doesn't come around often. Atlanta did (and still does) need a PG, but watching Bynum's development, I think they take him over Deron (even though I'm a big DWill fan) because he's a guy you can build a team around.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:13 am
by mattyj
1. Paul
2. Bynum
3. Deron Williams
4. Bogut
5. Monta Ellis
6. Marvin Williams
7. Danny Granger
8. Charlie Villaneuva
9. David Lee
10. Rashad McCants
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:26 am
by wolves_fan_82au
mattyj wrote:1. Paul
2. Bynum
3. Deron Williams
4. Bogut
5. Monta Ellis
6. Marvin Williams
7. Danny Granger
8. Charlie Villaneuva
9. David Lee
10. Rashad McCants
the 05 draft was quiet poor besides the top 3
lots of good role players though
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:30 am
by J~Rush
Don't forget about Webster
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:45 pm
by bill curley II
1. CP3
2. Bynum
3. Deron
4. Granger
5. Bogut
6. Marvin
7. Monta
8. David Lee
9. Maxiell
10. Felton
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:08 pm
by UGA Hayes
I think Bogut would be third or fourth right now. B/c of the Bucks poor season his much improved play on both sides of the ball is being underreported. Marvin has improved, but not that much.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:25 pm
by gswhoops
Bucks - Chris Paul
Hawks - Deron Williams
Portland - Andrew Bynum
New Orleans - Andrew Bogut
Utah - Marvin Williams
Toronto - Monta Ellis
NY - Danny Granger
Golden State - David Lee
LAL - Martell Webster
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:56 pm
by blkout
gswhoops wrote:Bucks - Chris Paul
Hawks - Deron Williams
Portland - Andrew Bynum
New Orleans - Andrew Bogut
Utah - Marvin Williams
Toronto - Monta Ellis
NY - Danny Granger
Golden State - David Lee
LAL - Martell Webster
I'd go with that. Maybe Ellis over Williams but otherwise that'd be my list.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:09 pm
by Ruzious
1. Paul
2. Bynum
3. Deron
4. Bogut
5. Granger
6. Blatche (He'd definitely be top 10.)
7. Felton
8. Maxiel
9. D Lee
10. Villanueva
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:25 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
1. Paul
2. D Williams
3. Bynum
4. Granger
5. Gerald Green (I hear he's the next T-Mac)
6. M Williams
7 Bogut
8. Frye
9. David Lee
10. Monta Ellis
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:09 am
by KF10
What about Francisco Garcia...Atl east he deserves a honorable mention... He did one time led the class of 05 in blocks in his rookie season....
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:37 am
by JoeT
1. Paul
2. D.Williams
3. Bynum
4. Bogut
5. M.Williams
6. Ellis
7. Granger
8. Felton
9. Lee
10. Webster
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:52 pm
by Julio
If i'm the Bucks, I take Bynum and have a trio of Ford-Redd-Bynum.
Of course, U can take Paul and trade Ford, but i'd feel safer by going for the big guy.And, TJ value wasn't that great I think, but I can be mistaken.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:22 am
by _BBIB_
bill curley II wrote:1. CP3
2. Bynum
3. Deron
4. Granger
5. Bogut
6. Marvin
7. Monta
8. David Lee
9. Maxiell
10. Felton
Marvin Williams is 3 years younger and already a more efficient basketball player than Danny Granger.
Devilzsidewalk wrote:1. Paul
5. Gerald Green (I hear he's the next T-Mac)
Too bad we don't SEE he's the next T-MAC
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:28 am
by _BBIB_
Ruzious wrote:1. Paul
2. Bynum
3. Deron
4. Bogut
5. Granger
6. Blatche (He'd definitely be top 10.)
7. Felton
8. Maxiel
9. D Lee
10. Villanueva
Lol @ this blatant shot at the Hawks and Marvin Williams.
David Lee and Blatche over Marvin? Come on. Maybe your top 4 is justified but the rest is a joke.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:23 pm
by Ruzious
_BBIB_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Lol @ this blatant shot at the Hawks and Marvin Williams.
David Lee and Blatche over Marvin? Come on. Maybe your top 4 is justified but the rest is a joke.
LOL, you're awfully sensitive about Marvin Williams.
I think he's a decent player - no more no less. He's a tweener - He's not a creator, and he's not a real power player. There's nothing that really stands out about him. Granger is an outstanding defensive player and just a better all-around player. If I left out someone that I shouldn't, it would be Webster, imo. Where's your top 10.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:53 am
by noido
1 - Bucks - Bynum
They had TJ Ford at worst they should have tried to get a backup in the 2nd round but TJ Fords teams win, I dont think his team has ever missed the playoffs.
2 - Hawks - Paul
Obvious toss up here but I think Paul is better to have on a young team
3 - Jazz - Deron
dont mess with a good thing right?
4 - Hornets - Bogut
This was before Tyson Chandler, although this team needed lots of help so you could go for potential here.
5 - Bobcats - Marvin Williams
They need a shooter, but Webster doesnt deserve to go this high and the rest come later. They had Brevin so they didnt need a PG.
6 - Portland - Raymond Felton
They need a PG
7 - Toronto - Granger
A wing was probably their biggest need, Graham started at SF this year
8 - New York - David Lee
Was thinking Webster because knicks need shooters, but couldnt think of a person who would do better on the knicks than Lee already has, so he goes here
9 - Warriors - Nate Robinson
Good shooter and scorer, suits the offence well as first guard off the bench.
10 - Lakers - Luther Head
Jury out on whether he can be a starting PG, but Kobe dominates the ball anyway, you need a PG who can knock down shots.
11 - Magic - Villanueva
They need a big or a PG, but Jack isnt good enough to go this high
12 - Clippers - Sean May
When healthy he would add with Kaman and Brand to give a real good front court
13 - Bobcats - Webster
They get their shooter here
14 - Wolves - Louis Williams
McCants is bad, knowing that they were gonna decimate the team takes Frye and Turiaf off the table, toss up between Louis and Monta but I'd take Louis
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:05 am
by theGreatRC
^
Maybe it's just me, but if this is a thread with 20/20 hindsight, no way Granger drops to 7.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:12 am
by noido
The only other spot I see needing a SF is at 4 or 6