aside from beasely rose and mayo

[DDV]

none of the potetnial lottery players in the upcoming draft really excite em all that much

bayless and gorodn are underiszed combo guards who will be small chuckers in the pros

lopez isnt physically ready

buddingers ehh

deandre jordan is raw as hell and a few years from doign anythign i nthe pros as is thabeet

[CB4MiamiHeat]

ehh Bayless is a scoring PG..he has great size for the position and he has quickness, gets to the FT line and is very efficient.

I think theres only 1 guy thats gonna be a superstar (Beasley) and 3 guys that i like (Bayless, Rose, Mayo).

I agree the rest is not that exciting.

[ponder276]

I am not really a fan of Bayless. Maybe I've only caught his bad games, but he seems to have unimpressive PG skills - much more of an undersized 2 than a scoring PG. I don't really get why people rank him higher than Mayo, other than age and possible character issues.
I think the top 10 or so picks in this draft is gonna be littered with busts, but there could be some good steals in the lower picks (CDR, Randolph, Lee, Hibbert and Lawson could all be very nice players who are available in the early teens or lower. Thabeet could also be a steal, albeit a risky one, if he falls to 17th overall as draft express are predicting, though with his upside I can't see him falling much lower than 10th-12th).

[riehldeal]

Glad to see this thread because now I know I'm not alone

Augustin and Love predicted in the lottery, if that doesn't signal a bad draft I don't know what does

My guys- Beasley, Mayo, Randolph, Arthur, Lee, Thompson, & Rush

[DanTown8587]

I tend to hold off judgement on drafts until at least one year in the league, because last year people were saying how unexciting Al Thornton is, then Al averages 17 a game over the past two months and looks like a legitimate prospect. Plus, how many drafts have four or five superstars? I mean 03, 84, 96 are the only drafts the past 25+ years with superstars available outside the top 3.

[Village Idiot]

I agree. There are only three sure guys in this draft and you named them.

Donte Greene is 4th on my draft board. He has the tools and mentality to become a very solid pro. Problem is he might wait until next year.

[riehldeal]

I tend to hold off judgement on drafts until at least one year in the league, because last year people were saying how unexciting Al Thornton is, then Al averages 17 a game over the past two months and looks like a legitimate prospect. Plus, how many drafts have four or five superstars? I mean 03, 84, 96 are the only drafts the past 25+ years with superstars available outside the top 3.

Except for me!!! I remind everyone I was hyping Big Al ever since last April when I began breaking down tape for XXXX

sorry for tooting the ole horn, I know that gets old for everyone on here, btu seriously Big Al is my big find....was on record as having him #3 on my board

[ponder276]

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Except for me!!! I remind everyone I was hyping Big Al ever since last April when I began breaking down tape for XXXX

sorry for tooting the ole horn, I know that gets old for everyone on here, btu seriously Big Al is my big find....was on record as having him #3 on my board

Sorry to take this thread off-topic, but while Al was a good pick at 14th overall, we should remember that he's 24 years old, so he's inherently going to look better than 19 and 20 year olds like Thaddeus Young and Brandan Wright, even if his upside is probably not as high.
Of the 13 players picked above Al, I would still pick Oden, Durant, Horford, Conley, Green, Wright and Thaddeus over him, making him the 8th instead of 14th pick if players were drafted perfectly (perfectly in my opinion).

[Worm Guts]

Glad to see this thread because now I know I'm not alone

Augustin and Love predicted in the lottery, if that doesn't signal a bad draft I don't know what does

The only thing it signals is that Augustin and Love are darn good players.

[riehldeal]

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The only thing it signals is that Augustin and Love are darn good players.

Hahaha, nevermind

[Worm Guts]

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Hahaha, nevermind

Love and Augustin stand up against late lottery picks of any past draft. They're both incredibly skilled underclassmen tearing up major confererences.

[riehldeal]

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Love and Augustin stand up against late lottery picks of any past draft. They're both incredibly skilled underclassmen tearing up major confererences.

Fine I will comment further

IMO

DJ is actually a player that I like but just not in the top 13 picks....I see him in the mid to high teens...I think he will be a defensive liability due to his size and average athleticism....on the offensive end of the floor, he really looks average outside the pick and roll to me

Love is undersized and a below average athlete....not a good formula or start to this discussion IMO...besides the occasional garbage put back at the rim, he will rely upon his jumper, and that's fine but given his struggles in the NBA defensively (just keeping up speed wise #1) I just don't see it

for the record: I don't hate these players in general, I just don't like them as LOTTERY picks, the point of this thread

Locks for lottery: Beasley, Mayo, Rose, Lopez, Gordon, Bayless, Gallinari

Players ahead of these two for lottery consideration (IMO): Randolph, Arthur, Jordan, Thabeet, Budinger, Batum

But you know what, I will admit that if someone like Budinger for example doesn't declare I could see Augustin in lottery discussions at #13

And of course there is always the caveat of teams looking for a PG....I guess I am just approaching this topic from BPA so team needs could swing DJ in there.....haha, fine, see I can see it now a little

BUT NO LOVE......the fact that the original post doesn't have Arthur above him IMO is wrong.....but of course, IF Arthur declares

[Worm Guts]

I'm not sure why you're comparing them to guys in this draft when I was arguing about whether them being drafted in the late lottery makes this a bad draft. You should be comparing them to late lottery players in other drafts.
In the last 5 years Sweetney and May were taken in the lottery and I'd consider Love a better prospect than either. Check out players taken from 10-14 in the last few drafts, I'd say both Love and Augustin stack up.

[riehldeal]

I'm not sure why you're comparing them to guys in this draft when I was arguing about whether them being drafted in the late lottery makes this a bad draft. You should be comparing them to late lottery players in other drafts.
In the last 5 years Sweetney and May were taken in the lottery and I'd consider Love a better prospect than either. Check out players taken from 10-14 in the last few drafts, I'd say both Love and Augustin stack up.

My mistake, I misunderstood

off the top of my head, I would rather have Love than Sean May.....haha, if that helps

I was more speaking to I feel others should be ahead of those two......my bad

[treefi]

Kevin Love > Spencer Hawes, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Saer Sene, Ike Diogu, Fran Vazquez, Sean May, Rafael Araujo, Robert Swift, and Michael Sweetney...

D.J. Augustin I don't like as much as Love. He doesn't deserve to be taken in the lottery this year and I don't think he will be. Somewhere in the 20's.

Honestly, I think this is going to be one of the best classes we have ever seen if everyone declares.

Potential Superstars - Michael Beasley, Derrick Rose, Jerryd Bayless, O.J. Mayo

Potential Stars - Brook Lopez, Eric Gordon, Danilo Gallinari, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Anthony Randolph, Nicolas Batum, Darrell Arthur, Chase Budinger, Kevin Love, Tyler Hansbrough(he will do whatever it takes to succeed in the NBA, and there's definitely a chance he turns into a star at the next level), Donte Green, James Harden, Roy Hibbert, Darren Collison, Jason Thompson

Potential Starters - Hasheem Thabeet, A.J. Ogilvy, Kosta Koufos, Bill Walker, Ty Lawson, D.J. Augustin, Russell Westbrook, Patrick Patterson, JaVale McGee, Tyler Smith, D.J. White, Ryan Anderson, Austin Daye, A.J. Price, J.J. Hickson, Richard Hendrix, James Johnson

That's 4 potential superstars(2 more than last year, 4 more than the year before that, and 3 more the year before that.) , 20 potential stars and 37 players who all look like they can potentially start in the NBA.

[Ruzious]

lopez isnt physically ready

That struck me as an odd comment. Dude is a big strong 7 footer. Was Tim Duncan physically ready? I mean, compare Lopez to Chris Bosh as a rookie.

I haven't seen a whole lot of him, but he's got to be top 3 now.

This draft is shaping up to be pretty good - at least better than last year's.

[5DOM]

Kevin Love > Spencer Hawes, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Saer Sene, Ike Diogu, Fran Vazquez, Sean May, Rafael Araujo, Robert Swift, and Michael Sweetney...

no he isnt