Brook is touted as the brother to have, but Robin has really played some soild ball of late.
Obviously Brook is more refined, but Robin seems to show a little more hustle and agression.
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Brook Lopez Vs Robin Lopez
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I think both players are pretty sound fundamentally. Neither are that athletic or fast but they both know how to use their size and do not shy away from contact. Robin is a little bit better at the dirty stuff including rebounding, D, strength, and maybe passing but I like Brook overall because of his superb offensive game. His footwork is pretty refined and understands positioning angles, very patient in the post and does seem to have a plethora of moves. He's not the explosive type of scorer or the guy that scores in bunches, but he'll be there when you need him.
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OrangeBull wrote:I think both players are pretty sound fundamentally. Neither are that athletic or fast but they both know how to use their size and do not shy away from contact. Robin is a little bit better at the dirty stuff including rebounding, D, strength, and maybe passing but I like Brook overall because of his superb offensive game. His footwork is pretty refined and understands positioning angles, very patient in the post and does seem to have a plethora of moves. He's not the explosive type of scorer or the guy that scores in bunches, but he'll be there when you need him.
I disagree that Robin is the better defender. Maybe he's a better raw shot blocker, but Brook's position D is unmatched anywhere in college basketball except for maybe Dorsey at Memphis, and to be honest I haven't seen much of Dorsey since conference play started.
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The gap is not as big as people think it is, but there exists one. Brook apparently took to the game of basketball first, and Robin kinda followed him into it. So Brook's learning curve may be a little higher, and as a result he's a better prospect. But in Robin you'd get one of the best backup centers in the draft. Pair him with a Dwight Howard type and watch the Magic dominate the NBA.
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I live in Palo Alto and am a Stanford fan, so I've seen a lot of these two.
Brook is clearly the better player to anyone who's watched them extensively. He's got a much more refined offensive game. Robin literally has NO go-to moves in the paint, it's all just put-backs and easy dunks. Brook has a nice turn around jumper and more of a feel for the game around the basket.
Robin is the better defender/rebounder, but the gap is not as big as the gap between his and Brook's offense. Brook put up 12 blocks against USC last year so he's clearly capable, but for some reason he tends to shy away most of the time rather than go for the block (unlike Robin). Neither have the athleticism to be "elite" shot blockers in the NBA but Brook has the offense to be a strong post player and what should be at least passable D in the NBA, while IMO Robin would be best suited as a backup because of his energy and lack of a refined offensive game.
With regards to their coming out, most people think that Brook will be leaving this year and Robin will stay for his junior year. Perhaps without Brook as a crutch Robin will develop more of an offensive game, but I really wouldn't count on it.
Brook is clearly the better player to anyone who's watched them extensively. He's got a much more refined offensive game. Robin literally has NO go-to moves in the paint, it's all just put-backs and easy dunks. Brook has a nice turn around jumper and more of a feel for the game around the basket.
Robin is the better defender/rebounder, but the gap is not as big as the gap between his and Brook's offense. Brook put up 12 blocks against USC last year so he's clearly capable, but for some reason he tends to shy away most of the time rather than go for the block (unlike Robin). Neither have the athleticism to be "elite" shot blockers in the NBA but Brook has the offense to be a strong post player and what should be at least passable D in the NBA, while IMO Robin would be best suited as a backup because of his energy and lack of a refined offensive game.
With regards to their coming out, most people think that Brook will be leaving this year and Robin will stay for his junior year. Perhaps without Brook as a crutch Robin will develop more of an offensive game, but I really wouldn't count on it.
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[quote="CB4MiamiHeat"]Brook is shooting 46%..thats a horrible percentage due in part because of his predictable moves. Whoever picks him top 5 is making a mistakw.
well who do suggest people select after the 2nd pick? especially at C. All the C's in this draft have their weaknesses, but Brook is easily the most well rounded. I would not mind my twolves selecting brook if they land out of the top 2. Jordan needs to stay another year, Hibbert is a little slow and Thabeet, might actually be the best fit, but no way should he go top 5.
I hope Robin comes out and the wolves can select him with the 1st pick in the 2nd round (via miami).
well who do suggest people select after the 2nd pick? especially at C. All the C's in this draft have their weaknesses, but Brook is easily the most well rounded. I would not mind my twolves selecting brook if they land out of the top 2. Jordan needs to stay another year, Hibbert is a little slow and Thabeet, might actually be the best fit, but no way should he go top 5.
I hope Robin comes out and the wolves can select him with the 1st pick in the 2nd round (via miami).
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The thing about Brook is that even though he doesn't have a counter move at the moment he has the fundamentals to make a countermove which makes me pretty optimistic about his future (he did make a pretty critical and successful though ugly countermove in yesterday's overtime).
Brook is also the best player I've seen in college since Tim Duncan at establishing position in the post which is not easy to do since they call fouls at the slightest hint of fighting for position.
The only concern I have for Brook is that he looks like he is going to be an avg rebounder at best.
Brook is also the best player I've seen in college since Tim Duncan at establishing position in the post which is not easy to do since they call fouls at the slightest hint of fighting for position.
The only concern I have for Brook is that he looks like he is going to be an avg rebounder at best.
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I hadn't seen much of Stanford till the end of the season, but I gotta question how anyone doesn't see the great talent that Brook Lopez has. He's miles ahead of Robin right now. Robin would be best served by staying in school for another year or 2 to develop his offensive game.
Right now, Brook is a poor man's Duncan, while Robin is a poor man's Varejao. That pretty much says it all about the difference between the bros.
Right now, Brook is a poor man's Duncan, while Robin is a poor man's Varejao. That pretty much says it all about the difference between the bros.
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Last night should have answered any questions about what happens when Brook gets single coverage in the post.
Sure he went to the same move 3 times, but when they started overplaying that he spun to the middle for a bucket, had a 12-foot fadeaway rim out, and hit the baseline fadeaway at the buzzer. He also passed out of the double-teams several times, one of which led to a Mitch Johnson 3-pointer.
I believe there was one more miss which I have forgotten the specifics of, but in any case it was high-efficiency, well-rounded basketball. He's not going to be a 25 ppg scorer in the NBA, but he's obviously going to be able to score when teams aren't focused on shutting him down.
I'm not saying his FG% couldn't be better, because it could. But no center - not Greg Oden, not Roy Hibbert, not anybody - is going to shoot 60% from the field getting the kind of attention Brook has recieved from opposing defenses this year.
Sure he went to the same move 3 times, but when they started overplaying that he spun to the middle for a bucket, had a 12-foot fadeaway rim out, and hit the baseline fadeaway at the buzzer. He also passed out of the double-teams several times, one of which led to a Mitch Johnson 3-pointer.
I believe there was one more miss which I have forgotten the specifics of, but in any case it was high-efficiency, well-rounded basketball. He's not going to be a 25 ppg scorer in the NBA, but he's obviously going to be able to score when teams aren't focused on shutting him down.
I'm not saying his FG% couldn't be better, because it could. But no center - not Greg Oden, not Roy Hibbert, not anybody - is going to shoot 60% from the field getting the kind of attention Brook has recieved from opposing defenses this year.
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Brook Lopez reminds me a lot of Jermaine O'Neal, a big who prefers the face up shot and looks slightly uncomfortable taking post shots.
Robin Lopez reminds me of a less athletic Tyson Chandler, a guy who will work hard for rebounds and block shots, but just does not posses offensive skills except dunking and getting put backs. Plus, in college Brook always goes against top bigs-Robin second bigs, and many college teams have only one-if that many-bigs. Robin normally plays smaller guys like 6'7" or 6'8"
Robin Lopez reminds me of a less athletic Tyson Chandler, a guy who will work hard for rebounds and block shots, but just does not posses offensive skills except dunking and getting put backs. Plus, in college Brook always goes against top bigs-Robin second bigs, and many college teams have only one-if that many-bigs. Robin normally plays smaller guys like 6'7" or 6'8"
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