Did Augustin's stock take a hit by being dominated by Rose?

i<3basketball · Post #1 » by **i<3basketball** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:49 pm

Do you think that Augustin's stock took a hit by being dominated by Rose? If so how far? Give your side of the story and expain.

Cammo101 · Post #2 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:53 pm

I don't think it did. Rose is clearly the better prospect and his size gives lots of smaller PG's trouble. Auggy has done too much the last couple years for that one game to hurt him vey much.

stasher59 · Post #3 » by **stasher59** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:57 pm

I think that the kid is a heck of a player but he is going to be hurt by his lack of height in the NBA. I dont think he did anything to hurt his stock, I for one put alot of value into individual workouts leading up to the draft. If he was 6-2 or 6-3 I think he would be a top 5 pick but aside from the Memphis game he had a heck of a run.

CB4MiamiHeat · Post #4 » by **CB4MiamiHeat** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:03 am

People questioned if he would be able to do what he does against NBA caliber athletes.

Rose and Dorsey are NBA caliber athletes..and he struggled..so yea he took a hit.

BMF Jet Jaguar · Post #5 » by **BMF Jet Jaguar** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:05 am

he couldnt do ish on NBA-sized players....

Cammo101 · Post #6 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 1:45 am

CB4MiamiHeat wrote:People questioned if he would be able to do what he does against NBA caliber athletes.

Rose and Dorsey are NBA caliber athletes..and he struggled..so yea he took a hit.

Dorsey is a 6'9'' center with little offensive game. His name belongs nowhere near Rose and Augustin when talking about pro potential. Auggy and Rose are lotto picks, Dorsey is a 2nd rounder.

Cammo101 · Post #7 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 1:47 am

BMF Jet Jaguar wrote:he couldnt do ish on NBA-sized players....

This sounds like what the pro Deron Williams people were saying about Chris Paul. It also sounds like what we heard about TJ Ford, Tim Hardaway, and a host of other great NBA point guards.

ponder276 · Post #8 » by **ponder276** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 1:59 am

His stock took a small hit, yes, but not a big one - maybe one team passes on him that would otherwise have taken him. He was still getting to the rack, he just wasn't finishing his layups. Part of it was him being bothered by the athletic Memphis players, but I think he was partly just having an off night. I still think he's a mid to late lottery pick (8-14 range). He's pretty clearly the #2 true PG in the draft, behind only Rose (Bayless, Mayo, Gordon and Westbrook are all combo-guards in the mold of Wade, Roy, Monta, etc.).

ponder276 · Post #9 » by **ponder276** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:03 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dorsey is a 6'9'' center with little offensive game. His name belongs nowhere near Rose and Augustin when talking about pro potential. Auggy and Rose are lotto picks, Dorsey is a 2nd rounder.

He said "NBA calibre athletes," not "players with NBA offense." Dorsey IS an NBA calibre athlete, and on the defensive end, is an NBA quality PF. Doesn't make him a lotto pick, or an NBA quality player overall, but he definitely is an NBA quality athlete.

Texas Longhorns · Post #10 » by **Texas Longhorns** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:20 am

Augustin owns.

Milkdud · Post #11 » by **Milkdud** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:44 am

His stock took a small hit IMO, the game just reaffirmed peoples concern about matching up vs bigger guards.

JonathanG · Post #12 » by **JonathanG** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:50 am

CB4MiamiHeat wrote:People questioned if he would be able to do what he does against NBA caliber athletes.

Rose and Dorsey are NBA caliber athletes..and he struggled..so yea he took a hit.

This was not the first time he went up against NBA caliber athletes. Texas has played against most of the best teams in college basketball this year.

Cammo101 · Post #13 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 4:03 am

JonathanG wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This was not the first time he went up against NBA caliber athletes. Texas has played against most of the best teams in college basketball this year.

Exactamundo. Ask Kansas' extremely good and athletic guards if Augustin is any good.

Cruel_Ruin · Post #14 » by **Cruel_Ruin** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 5:03 am

Not only that, but from Day 1, Rose might be the biggest and most athletic PG in the entire NBA. Augustin won't be going against Derrick Roses every day, even in the NBA.

wilt · Post #15 » by **wilt** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:53 am

people (GMs) will realise that this was a Texas problem and not just an Augustin problem. They as a team were outmatched big time and that made the margin for error much smaller for a single player like Augustin.

Post #16 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:38 pm

I love how people don't watch any NCAA ball for the entire season, then watch one - "maybe" two - tourney games and then proceed to base their entire opinion of a player on those one or two games and not on their entire body of work.

DJ will get it done in the NBA.

Joel Embust · Post #17 » by **Joel Embust** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:41 pm

Will DJ have a better NBA career than Mike Conley?

It's early in their careers, but Mike was the fourth pick in a so so draft and DJ is projected out of the top 10 in a very deep one.

Cammo101 · Post #18 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:47 pm

Sonics-FAN wrote:Will DJ have a better NBA career than Mike Conley?

It's early in their careers, but Mike was the fourth pick in a so so draft and DJ is projected out of the top 10 in a very deep one.

I think DJ will be better. I think both will be very good.

Post #19 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:55 pm

Sonics-FAN wrote:Will DJ have a better NBA career than Mike Conley?
It's early in their careers, but Mike was the fourth pick in a so so draft and DJ is projected out of the top 10 in a very deep one.

DJ is a better shooter and better passer. Conley is more atheltic. Both show pretty good poise.

I'd personally take DJ. I think he shows great maturity.

JN · Post #20 » by JN » Tue Apr 1, 2008 5:32 pm

CB4MiamiHeat wrote:People questioned if he would be able to do what he does against NBA caliber athletes.

Rose and Dorsey are NBA caliber athletes..and he struggled..so yea he took a hit.

I would have figured that Kansas, UCLA and Tennessee have NBA caliber athletes.