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new javale mcgee mix(7 and a half minutes)

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2008 1:52 am
by some_rand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh4w-UPUk4

who do you pick between him and deandre jordan if they are both available?

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:01 am
by 5DOM
not jordan

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:42 am
by NBAMAN2006
McGee is going to be much better. He will be what Keon Clark could have been, had he not gone all 'Ricky Williams'.

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:21 am
by ponder276
JaVale has huge, huge potential, but despite his very flashy/nice looking moves, he apparently has terrible fundamentals. This is from draft express (who are generally going to give you a less biased, better researched opinion than anybody on a forum):

Struggles to establish position and finish in the paint, settles for some incredibly awkward off-balance shots, and is virtually a black hole with his passing skills

Posted: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:42 pm
by hard49
Jordan

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:57 pm
by JimmyBulls
Both guys are interesting prospects, but I have to give the edge to Jordan because he's going to be able to do more with less pure basketball skills. I saw McGee's highlights, it's interesting, but it's hard to see how his game translates to the NBA game. Both guys will do well if they work hard enough. But I think Jordan will have easier transition if he works on his body and learn to use his body to work for him.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:37 pm
by HINrichPolice
Thanks for the link.

And besides that tip dunk, what other videos of DeAndre are available?

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:52 pm
by UGA Hayes
Wow, i completely forgot that I had seen this guy play before . His negatives must be EXTREMELY high not to be considered a top 5 pick a la Stromile Swift. The number of guys who can pull off some of his moves are pretty small. Most teams would take a chance with this type of player almost irregardless of his negatives.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:26 pm
by gswhoops
I would take Jordan over McGee any day.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:37 pm
by Smills91
McGee reminds me of guys like Michael Olowokandi, Patrick O'Bryant etc etc etc. Name me one player picked in the lottery from a small school that's ever amounted to anything over the past 10-15 years?

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:20 pm
by breaker91
^ His momma says your wrong Smills. McGee is a mix of Chandler, MJ and Dirk.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Pro ... Vale-McGee

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:27 pm
by Smills91
breaker91 wrote:^ His momma says your wrong Smills. McGee is a mix of Chandler, MJ and Dirk.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Pro ... Vale-McGee



And she's not the least bit biased is she. lol

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:47 pm
by rapsdotcom
anyone who compares Mcgee to POB is crazy. O'bryant doesn't have half the skillset of Mcgee.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:34 pm
by DaGoodz
I dont see how he can't go Top 5 after watching is highlights.
I just don't get it, a guy his size doing those moves?
7 feet tall?
Not in the Top 5 easily?
I don't get it

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:20 am
by Smills91
rapsdotcom wrote:anyone who compares Mcgee to POB is crazy. O'bryant doesn't have half the skillset of Mcgee.


He most certainly is a POB type pick. Big that dominates the little leagues and gets drafted in the lottery because of it. Olowokandi is another. They may have different skillsets, but the likelihood he accels in the NBA is about on par with POB.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:44 am
by gswhoops
DaGoodz wrote:I dont see how he can't go Top 5 after watching is highlights.
I just don't get it, a guy his size doing those moves?
7 feet tall?
Not in the Top 5 easily?
I don't get it

Not all of basketball is highlights, thank God. In that world Vince Carter is the GOAT and James White would be a top 5 pick.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:35 am
by Sarlonus
McGee has a lot of skill. He just seems so immature when he plays though. For instance at times his shot selection and decision making are poor. Most of his problems can be fixed by getting more experience. Unless some team is willing to let him play and make mistakes, he will be a bust.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:53 am
by BRIGGS
Sarlonus wrote:McGee has a lot of skill. He just seems so immature when he plays though. For instance at times his shot selection and decision making are poor. Most of his problems can be fixed by getting more experience. Unless some team is willing to let him play and make mistakes, he will be a bust.


I think that is somewhat reasonable. I would use him primarily in the post and make him play within the foul line--only using a long jump shot in a time of panic or desperation even though he can shoot it.

Simply at 7-1 240+ with his long arms and athletic ability[of course Im assuming he is getting and will continue to get stronger physically] with a good touch and ballhandling skills--he really would be quite a load to stop if he was shooting 12-15 shots in the post--he knows how to seal he has good touch and length at the hoop-- he just needs to play like an interior big man instead of some kind of hybrid 4. I think his mother[who said she taught him] put to much womens game into his head. Most female players do play from the 3 point line in--even most opf the post players step out---this cannot be Javale--Javale has to concentrate on 5 things. Post offense Post defense passing[because you can see he has that skill] free throw shooting and getting stronger[for rebounds and holding position]. If he does these 5 things he will easily be a top 5 player from this draft when people look back in 3-4 years.

He doesnt remind me of POB at all. POB is no where near as skilled doesnt run the floor the same etc.. He looks like he has snippets of Camby Rasheed Bynum and some KG -- that being said he should follow the path Bynum has gone--post play passing defense rebounding shotblocking--stay near the hoop.

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:02 am
by BRIGGS
breaker91 wrote:^ His momma says your wrong Smills. McGee is a mix of Chandler, MJ and Dirk.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Pro ... Vale-McGee


This would scare me--like I mentioned in the post below. He can have great success as a pure 5 player[as long as he works hard on his strength] if his mother is giving him hallucinations of being a 2-3-4-5=he will be all over the place and that has been his priamry negative. The bottom line is he needs to go the route Bynum went--he should be taught be whoever worked with Bynum because he is very skilled. The mpther mentioning Mike Jordan--I thought she knew what she was talking about. If he wants success--play like a Kevin Mchale Bynum Tim Duncan--stay within the foul line and play like a true 5. That is just plain horrible advice to give him the idea to be a perimeter player--he's 7-1 who wants a 7-1 player shooting 18 footers?

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:04 pm
by gswhoops
BRIGGS wrote:who wants a 7-1 player shooting 18 footers?

Don't let Don Nelson hear you say that, he'd probably just call dibs on McGee right now.