Deandre Jordan declaring smart or stupid ?

Serpo · Post #1 » by **Serpo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:42 am

I'm kinda twisted on this when i read his draft profile's he should have been a lot better in college .When i read his comparions i'm was really disspointed with him this year . He's an atlethic 7-footer but not much basketball skills and extremely mistake prone .

If he has that much talent wouldn't it be smarter to stay in college and polish his game because most likely he will be a major disappointment for the team that will draft him and will get a lot of blame for it `?

Then i thought what if he is just not that good and all the experts are just blinded by this atlethic abilities ? If thats the case it would be very smart to declare now while teams still think you will amount into something great . If he's not that good in college again his stock will fall like a rock.

Post #2 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:01 am

Smart.........................................unless he hires an agent.

At that point it becomes stupid.

-G- · Post #3 » by **-G-** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:38 am

Smart. He sucks, but will be picked in the lottery.

Blame Rasho · Post #4 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:18 am

I personally think he is smart...I think he sucks. If he can't be starter at the NCAA level with all his physical gifts what makes people actually think he will be a contributor to a NBA team.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #5 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:29 am

Smart. I dont think he will be a Patrick O'Bryant esque' bust, but I see him being a slightly better Kandi Man. Not that bad, but certainly not that good.

Tommy Gun · Post #6 » by **Tommy Gun** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:36 am

smart because he's pretty much a guaranteed lott pick. Going back to school and underperforming would take off a lot of his appeal as a high-potential guy--assuming of course that he wouldnt drastically improve.

I just cant believe how bad he was for a guy with this physical talent. He obviously has a lot to learn.

Serpo · Post #7 » by **Serpo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:37 am

I'm really sorry for the team thats going to pick him and really really hope the Nets do not even think about picking him . ( I'm pretty sure they're not picking him but Kiki had questionable picks before ... )

Even if he gets to be a good player it will take a lot of years for him to be of any use on the NBA level .

Post #8 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:50 am

His first mistake was sticking with A&M after Billy left, that was his first mistake he made this year. He is athletic, legit 7 footer and has a pulse so that means he has lottery written all over him.

JimmyBulls · Post #9 » by **JimmyBulls** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:06 am

It's a smart move on his part and i'm hoping he'll end up in a Bulls uniform. He has a long way to go development wise, but if he hits the weight room and get up to a strong 265, he'll just have to catch and dunk. Jordan struggled this year because of his lack of body strength, but NBA strength trainers are paid to get players bodies ready for the league. I wasn't that high on Brook Lopez or Robin Lopez after their freshman seasons. So it will be interesting to see how Jordan's game and body develops going forward. If he's a worker he should be really good.

DanTown8587 · Post #10 » by **DanTown8587** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:29 am

Its smart, I think if you are a project, it makes MORE sense to come to the NBA because if they commit to you (ala LA and Bynum) then you can get there. If you are a polished player, the more college you get, the more likely you stick in the league because of what you can do.

hard49 · Post #11 » by **hard49** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:42 am

Smart. Very underrated. Will go lottery and in 5 years will be leading the league in rebounds.

Post #12 » by **5DOM** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:45 am

hard49 wrote:Smart. Very underrated. Will go lottery and in 5 years will be leading the league in rebounds.

is dwight over 30 now?

HOTCARL_o · Post #13 » by **HOTCARL_o** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:08 am

Smart, you're a lottery pick already. He might actually really suck at basketball you don't want to be exposed. Really, though I think he can develop into a nice player if he's on the right team. For example, if the Bulls took him they would barely play him and just kill any type of motivation he had.

BMiller52 · Post #14 » by **BMiller52** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:25 am

Smart, A&M's staff can't teach a big man anyway IMO. I think working with an NBA big man coach who actually had similar physical abilities will help him a lot. For example if he gets drafted by the Kings and they hire Chris Webber as a big man coach, C-Webb is going to teach him a hell of a lot more than anyone in college can or will. A former NBA big will understand how he can get better and actually help him improve on this, not bench him because they're too worried about winning college games to develop an NBA big man. Face it, Turgeon was more focused on winning than developing Jordan because Jordan was extremely raw and was going to go to the NBA anyway. I really don't think college helped the guy at all.

I mean look at Bynum, you're telling me that going to college would've made him better and more ready to play than working with one of the greatest big men of all time in Kareem? If you do then you're on hella drugs. College doesn't help big men with more potential than skill IMO. He might as well go to the NBA so a team will commit to him, get him a big man coach to work with(even a guy that wasn't a star will help him a lot more than these college people), and won't pressure him to improve immediately.

Village Idiot · Post #15 » by **Village Idiot** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:00 am

Any player who is pretty much a lock to be drafted in the first round let alone the lottery should go to the NBA ASAP.

-He'll make at least $1.5 million worst case. Working for a good salary of $50,000 it would take 30 years to make that much money. He's also guaranteed a pension from the NBA.

-Injury risk alone means unless he has good (expensive) insurance he could end up with nothing but future medical bills he'd have to foot alone.

- The sooner one gets out of the rookie contract the sooner a guy can make big money in free-agency. Assuming the length of a players career is constant regardless of when he enters the NBA means another year a player can potentially make money.

Jordan has bust written all over him. He should get while the getting is good.

ponder276 · Post #16 » by **ponder276** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:04 am

Smart, because:

a) I'm not convinced he's that good, his stock could easily fall if he doesn't progress much in college next season
b) He has issues with the coaching staff at A&M that could hinder his development, he'll probably develop better with minimal PT and lots of coaching in the NBA anyways (ala Andrew Bynum)
c) He'll go in the lottery, probably top 10 - that is good $$$, especially when you consider his stock is just as likely to fall as it is to rise if he stays another year in college
d) As with all players, there's the risk of getting injured in college and never getting that NBA paycheck

Post #17 » by **Schad** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:20 pm

Jordan seems like a kid who should be phenomenal in workouts, which all but eliminates the possibility that he will fall out of the lottery; I can't imagine both the Nets and Pacers passing on him if both commit to a re-build, and even if he did slip he would be an intriguing prospect at 15 for the Suns...if they keep the Hawks pick. As Chris Taft would tell you if he hadn't vanished from the face of the earth, it is sometimes best to collect your cash while people are still enamored with your upside.

Who knows, he might also turn out to be fairly good, in the Sam Dalembert mold.

Serpo · Post #18 » by **Serpo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:27 pm

The Nets have NEVER ever taken Highschool players ( when stll possible ) or College Freshmen . They won't pass on immidiat impact freshmen but thats for from what Jordan is .

New Jersey is in a rebuild but not a long term rebuild , Jordan is no help for what NJ is doing especially because they're already stacked with young bigmen who are still developing. If NJ takes a big it'll be Beasley ( unlikely i can't see us getting #1 or #2 ... ) or Love PF needs to be adressed not Center .

We need points from out bigs and not another guy with not much of an offensive game that might develop one later .

Scoring Big or 6th man / eventual starter when someone is traded on the wing is what NJ will draft nothing else.

MalReyn · Post #19 » by **MalReyn** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:48 pm

Smart.

Otherwise I could see him turning into Chris Taft, a guy who at one point was projected lottery (evey high lotto) and falls into the 2nd round.

He's just not that good, and another year at A&M with minimal improvement would confirm that. Better leave now and grab the millions.

Post #20 » by **Paydro70** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:56 pm

I disagree, with the caveat that I don't know how he'll be treated next year at TAMU. If they play him for 30+ minutes a game, he could most certainly confirm his potential enough that he'll be drafted lock top-5 instead of late lottery as he probably is now. Even if you assume no improvement, just playing at the same level for 30 minutes instead of 20, his stats would be: 12 ppg, 9rpg, 2bpg, and probably still somewhere around .600 shooting (maybe he even gets his FT shooting to .500). I don't think that's bad at all, on a team that runs a very slow offense, plus he'd still only be 20 and a physical freak. So I doubt he slips out of the lottery unless he actually declines markedly, or they still don't give him minutes.

And what if he improves? He's starting from very little, so it's not crazy to imagine he'd improve his skills on both sides of the court, at which point he looks like a very solid top-5 pick.