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riehldeal · Post #1 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:53 am

1- Rose
2- Beasley
3- Mayo
4- McGee
5- Arthur
6- Randolph
7- Alexander
8- Lopez
9- Bayless
10- Gordon
11- Batum
12- Gallinari
13- Budinger
14- Love
15- Thompson
16- Lee
17- Speights
18- Clark
19- Rush
20- Greene
21- Augustin
22- Lopez
23- Thabeet
24- CDR
25- Hibbert
26- Jordan
27- Hendrix
28- Chalmers
29- Collison
30- Hansbrough

2nd rounders with late 1st rd talent- Giddens and Beaubois

I know there will be some huge disagreement so feel free

ahartleyvu · Post #2 » by **ahartleyvu** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:27 am

McGee 4th? Lopez-Bayless-Gordon that far down? Gallinari is pretty far down too.

Serpo · Post #3 » by **Serpo** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:32 am

If Jordan doesn't really impress in Draft workouts him sliding so far down is very possible.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #4 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:51 am

I wont deny it, I love this mock.

You are high and low on nearly every player I am high/low on. My main problem would be Speights at #14. I know he can fad in and out of games, but the guy is so much like Horford it is eerie. I think he is a top 8 talent after workouts.

riehldeal · Post #5 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:20 am

NBAMAN2006 wrote:I wont deny it, I love this mock.

You are high and low on nearly every player I am high/low on. My main problem would be Speights at #14. I know he can fad in and out of games, but the guy is so much like Horford it is eerie. I think he is a top 8 talent after workouts.

at one time I had him at 14 but I just havent seen enough of him to do so.........could definitely move up though

although

love's bball IQ and intangibles help his case
thompson's frame and advanced skill set helps him
lee to me is a poor man's OJ Mayo and not in a bad way

riehldeal · Post #6 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:31 am

ahartleyvu wrote:McGee 4th? Lopez-Bayless-Gordon that far down? Gallinari is pretty far down too.

McGee going as low as some have him going is an absolute joke to me, makes me wonder if we're watching the same player....sure he has flaws but these same people have no trouble putting Love top 8 despite severe issues in terms of translating his game to the League

Lopez is not a great athlete and shows close to no instinctual feel to his game and a slow reaction time to his movements......8 is about right to me and still a nice spot for him

Bayless is the one that could bite me but I just was never really overwhelmed by this ball dominating scoring point......actually the problem is I don't seem him reaching his peak at the PG spot, more Monta and I just don't value that sort of role as top 5.......

When Gordon is on from 3-pt land, watch out, but when he is off, yikes! one trick pony but given his athleticism, power, and youth still a top 10 selection

DanTown8587 · Post #7 » by **DanTown8587** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:01 am

DeAndre Jordan isn't worse than 25 players in the draft. Sorry, that is a big board destined to get you fired if you were a GM.

riehldeal · Post #8 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:11 am

DanTown8587 wrote:DeAndre Jordan isn't worse than 25 players in the draft. Sorry, that is a big board destined to get you fired if you were a GM.

GIGANTIC bust potential.........by far the biggest in the entire draft

Jonathan Watters · Post #9 » by **Jonathan Watters** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:26 am

I'm sorry...DeAndre Jordan has gigantic bust potential but Javale McGee doesn't?

You realize just how lousy McGee's competition was, right?

riehldeal · Post #10 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:43 am

Jonathan Watters wrote:I'm sorry...DeAndre Jordan has gigantic bust potential but Javale McGee doesn't?

You realize just how lousy McGee's competition was, right?

huge difference between the two being that one, Javale, actually has true basketball skills.....Jordan has little ball skills and zero offensive ability beyond 2 ft......if you don't the difference between the two, sorry man

NBAMAN2006 · Post #11 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:54 am

I think McGee has as much of a bust potential as Jordan, but I would also argue that he has a higher ceiling. His NBA comparison, IMO, is something between 'Keon Clark reaches his ceiling' & Chris Bosh.

Jonathan Watters · Post #12 » by **Jonathan Watters** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:56 pm

riehldeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

huge difference between the two being that one, Javale, actually has true basketball skills.....Jordan has little ball skills and zero offensive ability beyond 2 ft......if you don't the difference between the two, sorry man

And Jordan is significantly better as an athlete.

Do you honestly believe Jordan couldn't have averaged 14 and 8 in the WAC this year?

bigballa3jj · Post #13 » by **bigballa3jj** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:06 pm

Jonathan Watters wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And Jordan is significantly better as an athlete.

Do you honestly believe Jordan couldn't have averaged 14 and 8 in the WAC this year?

the conference's name say it all......
wack

riehldeal · Post #14 » by **riehldeal** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:11 pm

Jonathan Watters wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And Jordan is significantly better as an athlete.

Do you honestly believe Jordan couldn't have averaged 14 and 8 in the WAC this year?

False, if anything, Javale is the better athlete and I never really understood the elite athlete tag for Jordan.....he is above avg but not elite

BRIGGS · Post #15 » by **BRIGGS** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:40 pm

Ramon Sessions played for Nevada and looked like a high lottery pick towards the end of the year. I don't think smaller conferences should necessarily be under rated anymore. Jordan was not very good--maybe his numbers would have been better---very likely so because he would had more PT but that doesn't change his skill sets. There is no exact science to drafting. We can only use our eyes--and my eyes see a multi skilled athletic 7+ plus player who should be a very good NBA basketball player if he works hard.

The_Pope · Post #16 » by **The_Pope** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:51 pm

No way Alexander and McGee should be that high.

JR_SMITH_23 · Post #17 » by **JR_SMITH_23** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:34 pm

CDR going 24 huh? Hopefully he stays there or a little lower so my Hornets can have a chance at him...

RyGuy24 · Post #18 » by **RyGuy24** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:09 pm

I don't know if people understand how horrid of a defender McGee is. It's not even terrible, it's flat out disgusting to watch.

Post #19 » by **moocow007** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:12 pm

riehldeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

GIGANTIC bust potential.........by far the biggest in the entire draft

But also one of the biggest upsides and I'm not a fan of him at all. Should be enough teams willing to take risks in the hopes of uncovering a jewel that he won't last until 26th unless, as you said, he absolutely poops it up during workouts. If I was his agent I would limit his workouts and have a very controlled environment where scouts can come and see him play. Now if this was more of a projection of how guys might turn out, could I see Jordan that far down.

Post #20 » by **moocow007** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:18 pm

BRIGGS wrote:Ramon Sessions played for Nevada and looked like a high lottery pick towards the end of the year. I don't think smaller conferences should necessarily be under rated anymore. Jordan was not very good--maybe his numbers would have been better---very likely so because he would had more PT but that doesn't change his skill sets. There is no exact science to drafting. We can only use our eyes--and my eyes see a multi skilled athletic 7+ plus player who should be a very good NBA basketball player if he works hard.

Jordan has the potential to be great in the NBA if he works real hard. While he's still not quite in the Dwight Howard neighborhood in terms of physical impressiveness he most definitely would be one of the most athletic 7 footers in the NBA with the size that will allow him to play C. The big problem is, did he stall because, as the conspriacy theorists love to think that A&M's coaching staff deliberately limited his minutes so he would be forced to return next season (farfetched sure) or was it because his work ethic and effort just wasn't good enough (probably more likely). At which point, the NBA is littered with high lottery picks used on athletic 7 footers that bombed not because physically they weren't able to handle it but because mentally they couldn't put forth the effort needed to match what their physical tools say they should be (i.e. guys like Pervis Ellison, Michael Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Eddy Curry, Patrick O'Bryant, etc., etc, etc.).