[b]Hasheem Thabeet vs Roy Hibbert[/b]

slanno_23 · Post #1 » by **slanno_23** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:09 am

Just our opinion on who is better now, and at the end of their careers????

ss-wiish! · Post #2 » by **ss-wiish!** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:47 am

Hibbert now
Thabeet end

BBen · Post #3 » by **BBen** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:46 pm

Hibbert, but I like Georgetown bigs.

Bucky O'Hare · Post #4 » by **Bucky O'Hare** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:56 pm

Thabeet. Even if he sucks at everything else, he's guaranteed to be a huge defensive presence and a shot blocking machine. Hibbert is a stiff.

Cammo101 · Post #5 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:31 pm

Hibbert and Hibbert

djdjdj28 · Post #6 » by **djdjdj28** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:03 pm

Hibbert is terrible. At least Thabeet will block shots right now, and keep in mind he's only been playing basketball for about 5 years so his offensive game will definitely improve.

BadWolf · Post #7 » by **BadWolf** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:21 pm

What makes Thabeet any better then Steven Hunter?

djdjdj28 · Post #8 » by **djdjdj28** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:55 pm

1 word. Potential. I don't think he'll ever be a huge offensive force but his game can definitely develop. His real impact will be on the defensive end.

Post #9 » by **FNQ** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:20 pm

BadWolf wrote:What makes Thabeet any better then Steven Hunter?

What makes Hibbert any better than Greg Ostertag?

And Thabeet seems to be (when his heads on straight) a lot closer to Deke than to Hunter... one more year of seasoning / gaining consistency is the right move and he should be applauded for not chasing the money.

On the flip side, if he entered, he likely would have been drafted at 15+, so he'd be on a playoff team.. much more likely to have a vet help him develop into a better player. Such is the tradeoff though.

Wade2k6 · Post #10 » by **Wade2k6** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:39 pm

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Thabeet. Even if he sucks at everything else, he's guaranteed to be a huge defensive presence and a shot blocking machine. Hibbert is a stiff.

skones · Post #11 » by **skones** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:57 pm

Hibbert's a stiff. He won't be good at anything in the NBA while the same cannot be said for Thabeet.

A.J. · Post #12 » by **A.J.** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:04 pm

Hibbert is better than Thabeet now, but in the future Thabeet will be better.

PaKwAn · Post #13 » by **PaKwAn** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:42 pm

I like Thabeet's presence down low that will make players think twice going in...Give him a good point guard and his offensive game will show impact thats why offense is not a problem for this kid while the defensive presence he brings is something you should really like...

Post #14 » by **bryant08** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:10 am

Thabeet.

BBen · Post #15 » by **BBen** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:42 am

What makes Hibbert any better than Greg Ostertag?

What makes being like Greg Ostertag a bad thing? He was a solid 20mpg starter/fringe bench player who was on a very competitive Utah team for years. Not a star sure, but all you need is solid at C most of the time. I don't know what makes people so attracted to these players who just started playing because they're tall. What makes someone good is desire and love of the game. Without those things what leads you to believe he'll care about improving his game once he signs a big contract? Name me three players who made a big impact in the NBA after starting to play ball 5-6 years before.

Egg Nog · Post #16 » by **Egg Nog** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:44 pm

BBen wrote:Name me three players who made a big impact in the NBA after starting to play ball 5-6 years before.

I don't know about three players, but Hakeem Olajuwon averaged 20 points/12 boards/2.5 blocks in the league six years after he first touched a basketball.

...not that Thabeet is about to become another Hakeem, of course...

MalReyn · Post #17 » by **MalReyn** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:50 pm

Egg Nog wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't know about three players, but Hakeem Olajuwon averaged 20 points/12 boards/2.5 blocks in the league six years after he first touched a basketball.

...not that Thabeet is about to become another Hakeem, of course...

Dikembe Mutombo originally attended Georgetown on a USAID scholarship, and had to be recruited by John Thompson to play basketball! He was originally a pre-med.

A player like Tim Duncan might not technically count, but he would've been a lottery pick easily after his Sophomore year in college, at which point he had been playing 6 years (started in 9th grade).

BBen · Post #18 » by **BBen** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:42 pm

Players like Mutombo and Dalembert have/had reasons to improve. They are true philanthropists and among other things want to improve their home countries with the wad of cash that they make. The better the play the bigger the wad and the more investment they can make. Does Thabeet have that? Players that have to improve (we'll all agree Thabeet has a looooong way to go) need a strong desire. Has there been any evidence of this from Thabeet?

Hibbert is already solid and the Georgetown system doesn't tolerate people who don't work hard.

DanTown8587 · Post #19 » by **DanTown8587** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:37 pm

Its really what you need: if you want better offense than go Roy Hibbert, but if you want defense/rebounding go Thabeet.

Post #20 » by **Paydro70** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:10 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:Its really what you need: if you want better offense than go Roy Hibbert, but if you want defense/rebounding go Thabeet.

QFT. I think it's a pretty clear offense/defense split, though I think Hibbert will be able to play very good defense on centers that aren't super-athletic. Unfortunately for him there are fewer of those around nowadays, and I don't think he's ever going to become a good rebounder. Thabeet learning to play offense is conceivable, but probably unlikely.