Do you believe the NBA Draft Lottery is fixed?

ponder276 · Post #1 » by **ponder276** » Sun May 18, 2008 4:06 am

Please explain your answer.

LaymansTerms · Post #2 » by **LaymansTerms** » Sun May 18, 2008 4:21 am

No and my answer needs no explanation. It's a lottery.

ponder276 · Post #3 » by **ponder276** » Sun May 18, 2008 6:06 pm

LaymansTerms wrote:No and my answer needs no explanation. It's a lottery.

I agree, but looking at threads like "What will the final draft order be?", it's clear that a lot of people on this board feel that the lottery is fixed. I was interested in some explanations.

DBurks2818 · Post #4 » by **DBurks2818** » Sun May 18, 2008 6:30 pm

Toronto and Portland getting the #1 picks probably wouldn't happen in a fixed draft.

Curmudgeon · Post #5 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sun May 18, 2008 6:38 pm

I think it is only fixed in certain years, when Stern puts his thumb on the scale. In particular, the 1985 draft is suspect, and I find it a little unusual that last year, the two teams that openly tanked-- Memphis and Boston-- were the big losers, particularly since the statistical chance that BOTH of those teams would drop out of the top three was very small.

GLtrojans · Post #6 » by **GLtrojans** » Sun May 18, 2008 8:58 pm

If the Knicks get the first pick then its fixed. Period

method · Post #7 » by **method** » Sun May 18, 2008 9:33 pm

GLtrojans wrote:If the Knicks get the first pick then its fixed. Period

But when we(the Knicks) got the 2nd pick that went to the Bulls it wasnt fixed...right? :noway:

_BBIB_ · Post #8 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun May 18, 2008 9:43 pm

I will be skeptical if Knicks get a top 2 pick.

ponder276 · Post #9 » by **ponder276** » Sun May 18, 2008 10:57 pm

It should be noted that the Knicks have an 18.5% chance of getting a top 2 pick, and a 29.2% chance of getting a top 3 pick - it's really not that improbable at all. The Knicks have also not had a pick in the top 6 since 1986, so I'm not entirely sure where the idea that "the lottery is fixed for the Knicks" comes from.

Troubadour · Post #10 » by **Troubadour** » Sun May 18, 2008 11:21 pm

The lottery isn't fixed since two of the most anticipated prospects - Kevin Durant and Greg Oden - went to Portland and Seattle. If the lottery was rigged, Atlanta and Boston would have had the top 2 picks.

Post #11 » by **dockingsched** » Sun May 18, 2008 11:25 pm

milwaukee won the lottery. /thread

Post #12 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon May 19, 2008 12:10 am

Only if my team doesn't win!!

Why is it fixed if the Knicks win? They always suck, they are bound to hit gold sooner or later.

owl · Post #13 » by **owl** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:03 am

ponder276 wrote:It should be noted that the Knicks have an 18.5% chance of getting a top 2 pick, and a 29.2% chance of getting a top 3 pick - it's really not that improbable at all. The Knicks have also not had a pick in the top 6 since 1986, so I'm not entirely sure where the idea that "the lottery is fixed for the Knicks" comes from.

How about the infamous bent corner on the envelope year. NY gets
Ewing the the Pacers get Tisdale?

Not that I completely buy this but it does make you go hhhhmmmm.

Leonidas · Post #14 » by **Leonidas** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:12 am

It maynot be fixed, but all the sucky teams end gettin a baller that sells seats. NY is the exception, they fill the seats regardless.

Red Robot · Post #15 » by **Red Robot** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:56 am

I don't have any reason to believe it's fixed.

But: there's no transparency. And the NBA could benefit from fixing it. So why wouldn't they?

Post #16 » by **Paydro70** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:04 am

There's more than one guy in the room when they pull the balls out of the machine.

The reason they wouldn't fix it is that if it would ever leak out that it were fixed, it would cost a lot of people their jobs and would do irreparable damage to the league.

Besides, competitive balance actually IS good for the league... for the counter-example, look at baseball.

Post #17 » by **Young_Star11** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:40 am

No.

Boston would've got #1 last year.

Teen Girl Squad · Post #18 » by **Teen Girl Squad** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:42 am

Paydro70 wrote:There's more than one guy in the room when they pull the balls out of the machine.

The reason they wouldn't fix it is that if it would ever leak out that it were fixed, it would cost a lot of people their jobs and would do irreparable damage to the league.

Besides, competitive balance actually IS good for the league... for the counter-example, look at baseball.

Its even simpler that that. You think a bunch of billionaire owners would be happy to find out they were screwed from Lebron or Yao and the hundreds of millions they brought their franchises. You think Orlando gets 3 #1 picks over the span of a decade? Bucks? Durant and Oden getting banished to the pacific northwest? Makes no sense.

DanTown8587 · Post #19 » by **DanTown8587** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:32 am

No way there is a fix. Too many people have to much invested and if its fixed, the league would be ruined. Absolutely trashed. If he fixes a lottery, what else is fixed. Refs making calls for teams for ratings? FA Collusion?

Curmudgeon · Post #20 » by **Curmudgeon** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:35 pm

DanTown8587 wrote: If he fixes a lottery, what else is fixed. Refs making calls for teams for ratings? FA Collusion?

Possibly all of the above.