What does San Antonio want to trade the pick to the Jazz?

[Hoops Addict]

Jazzfan here, former San Antonio resident who went to St. Mary's Hall as a kid. I love the city, but moved to Utah as a teen right when Stockton and Malone were drafted.

What would you guys want to get for a trade with Utah for the #2 Pick?

The basics of the trade are roughly #2 for Markkanen and #5. What other things need to be added to work, such as additional picks and bad contracts.

Is Dylan Harper too much like Castle?

I suppose SA would prefer to trade for Giannis, but the Bucks will be demanding a Kings Ransom, or Castle and many picks.

[G R E Y]

Jazzfan here, former San Antonio resident who went to St. Mary's Hall as a kid. I love the city, but moved to Utah as a teen right when Stockton and Malone were drafted.

What would you guys want to get for a trade with Utah for the #2 Pick?

The basics of the trade are roughly #2 for Markkanen and #5. What other things need to be added to work, such as additional picks and bad contracts.

Is Dylan Harper too much like Castle?

I suppose SA would prefer to trade for Giannis, but the Bucks will be demanding a Kings Ransom, or Castle and many picks.

Hey, welcome.

Hmm I think we kicked the Markkanen tires before and got rebuffed/chafed at the cost. If we trade #2 for a more established star, the financials have to work. Lauri is under a new contract. Other names I've heard other than Giannis is Bam.

I can't say we have bad contracts, neither per year nor term.

I think we like the baseline of Fox (1), Harper (1,2), and Castle (1,2,3) making Vassell and his contract a potential lure. Not sure Devin fits you guys or that Lauri, who is more like Wemby than a bruiser big, fits us now.

Of course LM is a big talent, just think that dealing with Ainge is like hugging a cactus lol

[Rustyman]

The Lauri trade is probably my favorite option for the Spurs.

Jazz get no.2, Vassell and Keldon (the last two to match salaries)

Spurs get Markannen + future first rounder.

I think that Jazz giving both Lauri and the 5th pick would be too rich for the 2nd.

[imagump1313]

The Lauri trade is probably my favorite option for the Spurs.

Jazz get no.2, Vassell and Keldon (the last two to match salaries)

Spurs get Markannen + future first rounder.

I think that Jazz giving both Lauri and the 5th pick would be too rich for the 2nd.

I'm not giving up #2 for just Markennen. I would hold fast to that unless we get this years #5 also. No way I'm letting Ainge take advantage of us.

With #5 we can still get someone who could possibly help next year (maybe Kon?) and Markennen. I would be ok with that and any bundle of players not named Wemby, Castle or Sochan.

Also I would demand that the Jazz take Champaigne as a house warming gift.

[imagump1313]

Jazzfan here, former San Antonio resident who went to St. Mary's Hall as a kid. I love the city, but moved to Utah as a teen right when Stockton and Malone were drafted.

What would you guys want to get for a trade with Utah for the #2 Pick?

The basics of the trade are roughly #2 for Markkanen and #5. What other things need to be added to work, such as additional picks and bad contracts.

Is Dylan Harper too much like Castle?

I suppose SA would prefer to trade for Giannis, but the Bucks will be demanding a Kings Ransom, or Castle and many picks.

#2 for #5 and Markkanen and I'm all in! You can also have Champaigne. NO! YOU MUST TAKE HIM!

[Rustyman]

I'm not giving up #2 for just Markennen. I would hold fast to that unless we get this years #5 also. No way I'm letting Ainge take advantage of us.

I know that Ainge has a reputation for ripping people off however you have to look at this dispassionately. If we take Markannen, we need to match salaries and the match of Vassell and Keldon is almost perfect as it allows the Spurs to swap out two of their most inconsistent players. Also, I don't know if we want the #5 this year. If the Spurs get Markennen, their only gap is a big and we can get that at #14.

I would much prefer the swap to be Markennen and a future first (from a rebuilding team) which allows the Spurs more flexibility in the future.

[imagump1313]

I'm not giving up #2 for just Markennen. I would hold fast to that unless we get this years #5 also. No way I'm letting Ainge take advantage of us.

I know that Ainge has a reputation for ripping people off however you have to look at this dispassionately. If we take Markannen, we need to match salaries and the match of Vassell and Keldon is almost perfect as it allows the Spurs to swap out two of their most inconsistent players. Also, I don't know if we want the #5 this year. If the Spurs get Markennen, their only gap is a big and we can get that at #14.

I would much prefer the swap to be Markennen and a future first (from a rebuilding team) which allows the Spurs more flexibility in the future.

I get what you're saying but giving up #2 for just Markennen and a future? That's just not enough for #2.

Besides, Dallas has #1. Who knows if they go all Anthony Davis and not draft Flaag? Im still holding out for the fifth pick and they can have whatever players they want.

[Rustyman]

I get what you're saying but giving up #2 for just Markennen and a future? That's just not enough for #2.

Just remember, last year people were talking about it costing 3-5 first round picks for Markennen. This year we are talking about a high first rounder and salary cap ballast. That is much more in line with Markennen's true value.

Also, what are the alternatives, if we keep Dylan Harper, then one of Castle, Fox, Vassell have to go. Our return for Vassell on his own will not equate to a Markennen. Fox will not be traded as they made a deal on his extension when they traded for him last year. Castle is too exciting of a prospect to trade for Markannen as he has some form on the court and the potential for greater growth. At this point Harper is simply potential and I would rather go with the proven Castle and trade Harper for the best possible proven performer.

[imagump1313]

I get what you're saying but giving up #2 for just Markennen and a future? That's just not enough for #2.

Just remember, last year people were talking about it costing 3-5 first round picks for Markennen. This year we are talking about a high first rounder and salary cap ballast. That is much more in line with Markennen's true value.

Also, what are the alternatives, if we keep Dylan Harper, then one of Castle, Fox, Vassell have to go. Our return for Vassell on his own will not equate to a Markennen. Fox will not be traded as they made a deal on his extension when they traded for him last year. Castle is too exciting of a prospect to trade for Markannen as he has some form on the court and the potential for greater growth. At this point Harper is simply potential and I would rather go with the proven Castle and trade Harper for the best possible proven performer.

Vassell can go. SEE YA!!!!! (I used to like him, but he has had enough time to prove himself and he isnt a starter) Much of it is coaching IMO, but he certainly isnt going to get much of an improvement on that anymore with this team.

Im not totally against moving Fox as well if we think Harper is the real deal. But Markennen for Fox and number 2 isnt happening. We would need something more like the 5th pick also

Harper can play both SG and PG pretty well. Castle can do the same although I still think he is more of a SG than a PG. This could lead to some very versatile linueps if we keep the pick so im not paying someone else's price for Markennen. I'm paying my price.

I guess Im not as high on Markennen as I used to be. A number 2 pick is worth way more than an all star player with a huge salary these days. Going from 2 to 5 plus Markannen would make it worth my while.

[Kineto]

I prefer the Naz Reid road for SAS.

I'm not sure Lauri is better than Naz. If Naz got the minutes and usage that Lauri gets in Utah, I'd really like to see who would get the better numbers.

He is a free agent, and the Wolves will have $58m of salaries available to re-sign Randle, Naz and NAW if they want to stay under the second apron.
Randle will ask for $35–40m and is probably the Wolves' top priority after his performance in the playoffs, so they won't be able to match the Spurs if they offer $30m per year and a starting spot to Reid.

The Spurs will need to release some players in order to free up salary cap space and sign him. This could be expensive, as there are very few teams with cap space this summer (basically just the Nets), but probably way less than the Lauri package we've seen in this thread.
If they are about to lose him for nothing, the Wolves could even agree to a sign-and-trade (Barnes could be useful for them, for example).

Basically, we get a younger, cheaper player for fewer assets than have been proposed here.

[Rustyman]

I prefer the Naz Reid road for SAS.

The Spurs will need to release some players in order to free up salary cap space and sign him.

This is the problem though. If the Spurs trade, they swap salary for salary. To sign a free agent, they have to get rid of players for now return.