Spurs at Suns 1/31/08

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Post#21 » by HarlemHeat37 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:25 am

yesss!!! hahaha..what a win..makes up for the Seattle game..a little..

the 4th quarter was perfect, and it's what this team needs..great D, dictating the tempo, and the shooters making shots off Duncan..that's how we need to play all the time..Finley needs to make shots like he was tonight..Udoka and Bowen need to make shots..Stoudamire needs to make shots..

if the D can play like tonight, I won't be as worried..D is always a constant..
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Post#22 » by pro2020 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:48 am

huge win, now they should have no problem gaining confidence on the big road games, lets all hope they build on this win.
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Post#23 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:07 am

JACQUE FREAKING VAUGHN matched* Nash's scoring... who would have thought that.
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Post#24 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:09 am

I am actually surprised that Pop went with just a 7 man rotation... ala Coach D and got the W. We didn't play good but the Suns played worse. I am happy with the W and I hope this sets a good tone for the rest of the road trip.
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Post#25 » by HarlemHeat37 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:17 am

if we continue playing D like we did tonight, we can afford to wait for the offense and shooting to return..the D is the constant, like in years past..we'll be in every game if we play D like tonight..

what we need to do that we CAN CONTROL, is cut down on the stupid turnovers and BAD shots..
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Post#26 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:27 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:if we continue playing D like we did tonight, we can afford to wait for the offense and shooting to return..the D is the constant, like in years past..we'll be in every game if we play D like tonight..

what we need to do that we CAN CONTROL, is cut down on the stupid turnovers and BAD shots..


The one thing we do very well is impose our will on the Suns. They don't play their style. We limit the three ball and make 1 or 2 players beat us and not the entire team.
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Post#27 » by HarlemHeat37 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:34 am

yup..well the thing that always keeps my hopes up about this team is that we are the smartest team in the NBA on the floor, and always have great strategies..we just have to work on the execution now..

the D was great, and hopefully we build on that..
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Post#28 » by Ballings7 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:07 am

Sweet win! I love it.

Hung around, hung around, hung around, dictated the tempo the whole game... bam. Reminds me of game 5 in the playoffs last year.

The Suns match-up issues with us and their flaws as a team, combined with how we can still play being short-handed sums up the win.

I actually fell asleep after it was 69-67, and they went to commercial... thankfully I had the tape going! I woke up 20 minutes ago and just watched the rest of the game, not knowing what had happened at all. So it was like it was live. Pretty awake now :).

Combined with the long lay-off, Stoudamire coming in - this will only add to those factors for the rest of the road trip.


TDITM wrote:The one thing we do very well is impose our will on the Suns. They don't play their style. We limit the three ball and make 1 or 2 players beat us and not the entire team.


Exactly. We just match up so well with them. This is why I'm not scared of them.

HarlemHeat37 wrote:yup..well the thing that always keeps my hopes up about this team is that we are the smartest team in the NBA on the floor, and always have great strategies..we just have to work on the execution now..

the D was great, and hopefully we build on that..


HH37 wrote:if we continue playing D like we did tonight, we can afford to wait for the offense and shooting to return..the D is the constant, like in years past..we'll be in every game if we play D like tonight..

what we need to do that we CAN CONTROL, is cut down on the stupid turnovers and BAD shots..


Yeah.
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Post#29 » by LyMinh » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:14 pm

We still own the Suns, even when the worst teams in the NBA own us.
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Post#30 » by Magz50 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:15 pm

Great win! We need to use this game as a turning point, with Parker out for a while we should tsrat trying to solidify our game and keep the wins rolling in.
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udoka and bowen.... 

Post#31 » by ceperez » Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:33 pm

Udoka and Bowen in the court at the same time appears to have been key. With both of them on the court, you don't have problems switching defensive assignments.

Real solid defense and you can't leave them alone like you can leave Vaughn alone.

I like the fact that Udoka is always there looking for the offensive rebound. Unlike Bowen, he's heavy enough to guard someone in the post. See how is he stole the ball from Amare.
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Post#32 » by Ballings7 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:24 pm

^ Yes, like thought eventually, he's become a key guy

And yeah, Udoka's rebounding and strength are two of the differences Udoka was going to bring, from Bowen.
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Post#33 » by Rique » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:04 pm

So I'm watching the game today and onething i noticed is that Bowen is very hessitant to shoot the 3 ball from the corner. He's been wide open a few times, albeit with a guy charging hard at him, but nonetheless, he usually takes these shots. Oh well, just wondering if he's been trigger shy from his spot lately.
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Post#34 » by nashill » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:34 am

Ballings7 wrote:Sweet win! I love it.

Hung around, hung around, hung around, dictated the tempo the whole game... bam. Reminds me of game 5 in the playoffs last year.


are you proud of that game 5 win?
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Post#35 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:48 am

nashill wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



are you proud of that game 5 win?


Absolutely.

On the road in a tough environment, staying above water all game until the 4th where the Spurs took over. I loved it. The Suns had all game long to put the Spurs out of that game. They blew it.

And it can't just be said that the Suns would of won or most likely would of won with Amare and Diaw playing.

Amare playing probably would of changed the complextion of the game. Offensively, of course. But on defense, Kurt Thomas probably would of played less than he did. Thus changing the defense and offense for Tim Duncan. Thus the game for the Spurs. Kurt Thomas' defense was the key to why the Suns had a solid lead all game until the 4th.

I still would of favored the Spurs to win without the suspensions. Their experience and ability as a team supports that. The historical evidence is there, also.

In the end, regardless of view-point, it's all a variable if things were normal for the Suns.
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Post#36 » by nashill » Sat Feb 2, 2008 7:07 am

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Absolutely.

On the road in a tough environment, staying above water all game until the 4th where the Spurs took over. I loved it. The Suns had all game long to put the Spurs out of that game. They blew it.

And it can't just be said that the Suns would of won or most likely would of won with Amare and Diaw playing.

Amare playing probably would of changed the complextion of the game. Offensively, of course. But on defense, Kurt Thomas probably would of played less than he did. Thus changing the defense and offense for Tim Duncan. Thus the game for the Spurs. Kurt Thomas' defense was the key to why the Suns had a solid lead all game until the 4th.

I still would of favored the Spurs to win without the suspensions. Their experience and ability as a team supports that. The historical evidence is there, also.

In the end, regardless of view-point, it's all a variable if things were normal for the Suns.


i was a 50 - 50 back then, meaning i wont care who wins since im a fan of both teams.. and that series made me decide to root for phoenix this year.. that game 5 could have been a suns win without the suspensions..i am talking about momentum and confidence gained by suns in game 4..that confidence and momentum is very evident in game 5 but they fell short with only 6 players played. game 4 was close and amare and nash won that game..to say with or without amare in game 5 doesnt change a thing, i absolutely disagree.

anyway that was last year..this year, suns seem to have still some problems..that 2007 series should have made them a better team and more motivated but nash is surrounded by immature though talented players..so spurs will beat them again if playoff match between them starts today.
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Post#37 » by UDRIH14 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 7:59 am

nashill wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



anyway that was last year..this year, suns seem to have still some problems..that 2007 series should have made them a better team and more motivated but nash is surrounded by immature though talented players..so spurs will beat them again if playoff match between them starts today.


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Post#38 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:07 am

nashill wrote:i was a 50 - 50 back then, meaning i wont care who wins since im a fan of both teams.. and that series made me decide to root for phoenix this year.. that game 5 could have been a suns win without the suspensions..i am talking about momentum and confidence gained by suns in game 4..that confidence and momentum is very evident in game 5 but they fell short with only 6 players played. game 4 was close and amare and nash won that game..


Yeah.

nashill wrote:to say with or without amare in game 5 doesnt change a thing, i absolutely disagree.


What? I didn't say that. I said it would of. It likely would have on both ends of the court, in a positive and negative fashion.

I said just because Amare was playing wouldn't of meant the Suns would of won, or probably would of.

I also said regardless of viewpoint, nobody can just say one thing that would of happened. For certain. Amare could of been off his game, Amare could of been ejected, Amare could of been limited by foul trouble, Amare could of gotten hurt. Aside from the possibility of Amare playing well.

But because Amare didn't play in that game, it's a variable situation.

One thing is certain though, in the defensive factor. Amare wouldn't all of a sudden just changed as a defender.

nashill wrote:anyway that was last year..this year, suns seem to have still some problems..that 2007 series should have made them a better team and more motivated but nash is surrounded by immature though talented players..so spurs will beat them again if playoff match between them starts today.


Agreed.
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Post#39 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:16 pm

I honestly think that both teams need to look at a trade to shore up their weakness. The Suns... rebounding and the Spurs old age.

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