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Re: 15-16 Roster predictions/desires 

Post#41 » by SPURt » Sat May 30, 2015 11:11 pm

You know who might bring good value, Carlos Delfino

I can't find anything on him and injuries have taken him out of most conversations, but he may be a vet min contract that fills that 2/3 backup spot.

He's one of Argentina's golden generation and maybe would consider playing with Manu on his last ride. Dude could shoot and at a minimum salary, wouldn't be an awful risk.
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Post#42 » by Nolan » Sun May 31, 2015 8:29 am

SPURt wrote:You know who might bring good value, Carlos Delfino

I can't find anything on him and injuries have taken him out of most conversations, but he may be a vet min contract that fills that 2/3 backup spot.

He's one of Argentina's golden generation and maybe would consider playing with Manu on his last ride. Dude could shoot and at a minimum salary, wouldn't be an awful risk.


I always liked him. Tried to figure out where he's playing now but it looks like he hasn't done anything since he was waived by the Clippers. If he's interested in playing he could be a great pick up for the vet min.
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Post#43 » by co_laper » Sun May 31, 2015 2:52 pm

SpursNBucks wrote:#1 They are talking of moving Splitter
#2 They have Leonard at SF and Green (assume resigns) at 2G. Ginobli probably for one more. Not too worried about the backup- probably in the draft.
#3 Anderson at the 4? Hmmmm, seems way too soft and would need to add a lot of muscle.

I'm starting to have the put in all your chips and go for it next year. Get Aldridge or Gasol, and use your pick to get a SF/2G.


1. Really, I'm not so sure about the talk of moving Splitter. The whole talk comes from the idea that we need to move one of our bigs if we are to get LMA/Marc/Love and the one that played the worse was Tiago. And since when does the Spurs FO leak things. There's not even a single rumor on where Tiago is traded to.

2. You're hoping that whoever we draft actually gets regular rotation minutes on the roster? Safe to say that's a bigger pipe dream than landing Marc Gasol won't you say? And to ask Manu to play the remaining SG/SF minutes is insane. He can barely last the season. At this point, whenever Manu plays, we're just lucky. The last thing we can depend on from Manu is his health.

3. Kyle Anderson, as i've stated numerous time, is playing PF for Austin. He played PF for UCLA. He can't get by anybody as a SF in the NBA. He has a much easier time getting by PFs in the NBA because a lot of PFs aren't used to playing in the perimeter. Not to mention that it's a hell lot easier for Kyle to gain some muscle than he would gaining speed and quickness.

On another note, I think it's a total pipe dream to land Marc/LMA/Love while also resigning Duncan. Has there ever been a situation where a star player takes the freakin minimum to stay? If Duncan is coming back, and we can't find a trade partner at the right time, then Danny Green is going to be the casualty.
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Post#44 » by Nolan » Sun May 31, 2015 3:05 pm

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2. You're hoping that whoever we draft actually gets regular rotation minutes on the roster? Safe to say that's a bigger pipe dream than landing Marc Gasol won't you say? And to ask Manu to play the remaining SG/SF minutes is insane. He can barely last the season. At this point, whenever Manu plays, we're just lucky. The last thing we can depend on from Manu is his health.


I think your underestimating this draft class. There's plenty of NBA ready talent available at the tail end of the first round. Guys like Jerian Grant, Justin Anderson, Delon Wright, RJ Hunter and Rakeem Christmas are all capable of being rotation players from day one.
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Post#45 » by co_laper » Sun May 31, 2015 3:20 pm

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2. You're hoping that whoever we draft actually gets regular rotation minutes on the roster? Safe to say that's a bigger pipe dream than landing Marc Gasol won't you say? And to ask Manu to play the remaining SG/SF minutes is insane. He can barely last the season. At this point, whenever Manu plays, we're just lucky. The last thing we can depend on from Manu is his health.


I think your underestimating this draft class. There's plenty of NBA ready talent available at the tail end of the first round. Guys like Jerian Grant, Justin Anderson, Delon Wright, RJ Hunter and Rakeem Christmas are all capable of being rotation players from day one.


Over the years, we've got so many guys, rookies and even veterans who come in to the system and does not play. Sure, there's one or two that defies the odds, but for the most part, they couldn't crack the rotation on their first year.

To hope a rookie comes in, and one that is picked late in the draft, and contribute is a dream. It's basically best case scenario. Worse case, they never even play for us. Realistic scenario? They come in, play mostly on the D-league.

Last year was possibly the deepest draft in years and we got a nice player in Kyle Anderson.. Where did he play this year?

Yes, they're capable of being rotation players.. But I think if you were a betting man, then you'd bet on them not being in the rotation as a rookie.
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Post#46 » by Nolan » Sun May 31, 2015 3:26 pm

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2. You're hoping that whoever we draft actually gets regular rotation minutes on the roster? Safe to say that's a bigger pipe dream than landing Marc Gasol won't you say? And to ask Manu to play the remaining SG/SF minutes is insane. He can barely last the season. At this point, whenever Manu plays, we're just lucky. The last thing we can depend on from Manu is his health.


I think your underestimating this draft class. There's plenty of NBA ready talent available at the tail end of the first round. Guys like Jerian Grant, Justin Anderson, Delon Wright, RJ Hunter and Rakeem Christmas are all capable of being rotation players from day one.


Over the years, we've got so many guys, rookies and even veterans who come in to the system and does not play. Sure, there's one or two that defies the odds, but for the most part, they couldn't crack the rotation on their first year.

To hope a rookie comes in, and one that is picked late in the draft, and contribute is a dream. It's basically best case scenario. Worse case, they never even play for us. Realistic scenario? They come in, play mostly on the D-league.

Last year was possibly the deepest draft in years and we got a nice player in Kyle Anderson.. Where did he play this year?

Yes, they're capable of being rotation players.. But I think if you were a betting man, then you'd bet on them not being in the rotation as a rookie.


But Kyle was considered raw coming out of UCLA and had project written all over him. The guys I listed are all polished veteran NCAA players with at least 3 years of high level experience. They might not have the upside Kyle has but they are all far more NBA ready than him.

Historically we've drafted high upside and stash guys with our firsts (Hill and Blair being two exceptions) that's why you usually don't see rookies breaking into our rotation because the guys we usually bring just aren't ready yet. If we want too we can grab an NBA ready guy at 26.
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Post#47 » by SPURt » Sun May 31, 2015 3:32 pm

I think the reason Tiago is consistently mentioned is because he would free up the most cap room of any big, though he is making $1 million more than Bobo. I am a big Bobo fan, so it's part wishful thinking on my part.

The thing I'm excited about with this off season is that Pop and RC plan years in advance and Pop already stated next year's roster is going to be very different.

This will either be a great off season or terrible, no in between, but it seems like players realize being a Spur is special with Pop still there.

It's gonna be fun, I can't wait for the Warriors to blow through the Cavs and for the off season to commence.
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Post#48 » by co_laper » Sun May 31, 2015 3:36 pm

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But Kyle was considered raw coming out of UCLA and had project written all over him. The guys I listed are all polished veteran NCAA players with at least 3 years of high level experience. They might not have the upside Kyle has but they are all far more NBA ready than him.

Historically we've drafted high upside and stash guys with our firsts (Hill and Blair being two exceptions) that's why you usually don't see rookies breaking into our rotation because the guys we usually bring just aren't ready yet. If we want too we can grab an NBA ready guy at 26.


Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I simply don't think it's realistic to expect a rookie to come in and contribute given the history of all players that has come in. Rookies or not.

I'm surprised that you say Kyle was a project and had a huge upside. I mean.. that's basically the knock on him. He has little upside, mostly because of his lack of athleticism. And he was looked at around the league as someone who could play right away.
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Post#49 » by Nolan » Wed Jun 3, 2015 6:25 pm

Here's a crazy thought. If Manu retires and Duncan and Green stay what do you guys think about using most (or all) of our cap space to bring in Wade? In that situation we won't be able to afford LMA or Gasol without dumping Splitter and maybe even Diaw.
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Post#50 » by co_laper » Wed Jun 3, 2015 8:43 pm

Nolan wrote:Here's a crazy thought. If Manu retires and Duncan and Green stay what do you guys think about using most (or all) of our cap space to bring in Wade? In that situation we won't be able to afford LMA or Gasol without dumping Splitter and maybe even Diaw.


So basically Wade replaces Manu? Great. I think the idea that we get LMA or Marc is more likely to happen than getting Wade though.

I really can't think of a situation this summer where we get better than the team we had last year. Lost in everything, our 2014-15 team is actually pretty good. Manu was inconsistent ofcourse, but he was always that way and we could live with it. But injury to Parker and Tiago really change everything. In the end, we even put up a good regular season. Motivation and energy was probably our biggest problem for the whole season but it was expected after 2 Finals trip and having that bulls eye on our back.

Getting a top flight FA means we'll lose pretty much all our depth and it's just really unlikely that it means Duncan or/and Manu comes back. It would set us up longer for the future though because a Marc (or LMA)/Kawhi/Parker/Pop foursome should still be a playoff caliber team.

Should we try to make one more run at the title or look ahead to the future?

I think out best bet of making one last run involves bringing most of the group back, with just minor tweaks/additions to the bench. Nothing major.
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Post#51 » by UDRIH14 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:24 am

spurs need to get rid of parker, that should be the first priority b4 looking at signing any big name FA

this clown doesnt pass the ball, what makes you think his going to pass it to the guy who be earning 18m a year?
no way the spurs are paying someone 18m a year and not gettin touches...

either promote patty mills to starting pg or go out fetch a serviceable passing pg who plays defense and can hit the occasional open jumper...
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Post#52 » by Yuri Vaultin » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Has there been any talk on bringing Livio Jean-Charles over from France?
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Post#53 » by co_laper » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:00 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Has there been any talk on bringing Livio Jean-Charles over from France?


No, and I don't think Spurs will. Last I heard about Livio was he suffered a major injury right? Or was that someone else? I can't remember.

Anyways, I really think we're not gonna get any major FAs again this year. If we can't get one when TD was in his prime and we were winning championships, I don't think we will now. Our biggest lure is Kawhi. TD and Manu, even if they play, will only play one more year. I think the consensus is that Pop won't finish out his contract so whoever comes will have it in their mind that Pop's not gonna be there for the duration of their contract.

I'm bracing for a big disappointment this summer.
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Post#54 » by improvisor » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:55 pm

Surprised no one is talking about Sasha Kaun and you guys being very interested in him....
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Post#55 » by co_laper » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:41 am

improvisor wrote:Surprised no one is talking about Sasha Kaun and you guys being very interested in him....


Are you really surprised at that?
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Post#56 » by Nolan » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:17 pm

improvisor wrote:Surprised no one is talking about Sasha Kaun and you guys being very interested in him....


I don't get why we're interested. He isn't an upgrade over Baynes.
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