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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#21 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:02 am

Frankie23 wrote:So roster is:
PG: Murray/Mills/White/Forbes
SG: DeRozan/Bellineli/Manu/Walker
SF: Gay/Dante
PF: Aldridge/Bertans
C: Gasol/Poertl

You have a lot of players to play small ball, but also to play big. Rotation i guess is going to vary depending on match ups, resting players, etc

Forbes played mostly at the 2, Rudy mostly at the 4. Dante was also mostly at the 4, but with near equal minutes at the 3 and 5, too.

Only Murray, Pau, and Poeltl have played exclusively at their respective 1, 5 positions, so though the 3 is going to be by committee or if someone steps up, I agree we've got some versatility, plus more athleticism.
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#22 » by ObiWan_Ginobili » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:58 am

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ObiWan_Ginobili wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lineup of

PG Murray
SG Bellinelli
SF DeRozen
PF Aldridge
C Gasol/Poetl

Marco’s 2nd stint here and played pretty well. Gives us a bit more size on the wings and should allow DeRozen to try an utilise his post up game a bit more easily than with 2 PGs in the backcourt. Plus Marco give us some good shooting in the backcourt.

I would like to see Pop use Mills as a spark of the bench.


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The thing is that Dejounte and Patty are already familiar with one another, and Beli and Manu have had great synergy together. With DeMar in the lineup, we've already got a big scoring boost, though with the other starters, there's Patty and Gasol as the 3 shooters (maybe Murray a bit more, too, but until we see it, we can't say it's something to rely on as of yet). Beli's shooting off the bench is key, too, along with Rudy/Davis, and Poeltl - that's some good firepower and options of style of play. Manu's playmaking/finding his own shot, anchored by steady White is a nice second unit.

p.s. I forgot to add Dante into the equation, who is a solid presence on both ends.



Fair points about Patty and Murray.
I leant towards Marco starting to help create size matchup problems and give DeRozen a bit more freedom to post up smaller guards.
I figured with Patty it would make it harder for him to end up with a smaller guard and end up being defended by a SF
But you’re right, starting Patty would give us more flexibility and bench depth.

Your points about Marco and Manu are true. They were great to watch when they were together.


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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#23 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:22 pm

ObiWan_Ginobili wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:
ObiWan_Ginobili wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lineup of

PG Murray
SG Bellinelli
SF DeRozen
PF Aldridge
C Gasol/Poetl

Marco’s 2nd stint here and played pretty well. Gives us a bit more size on the wings and should allow DeRozen to try an utilise his post up game a bit more easily than with 2 PGs in the backcourt. Plus Marco give us some good shooting in the backcourt.

I would like to see Pop use Mills as a spark of the bench.


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The thing is that Dejounte and Patty are already familiar with one another, and Beli and Manu have had great synergy together. With DeMar in the lineup, we've already got a big scoring boost, though with the other starters, there's Patty and Gasol as the 3 shooters (maybe Murray a bit more, too, but until we see it, we can't say it's something to rely on as of yet). Beli's shooting off the bench is key, too, along with Rudy/Davis, and Poeltl - that's some good firepower and options of style of play. Manu's playmaking/finding his own shot, anchored by steady White is a nice second unit.

p.s. I forgot to add Dante into the equation, who is a solid presence on both ends.



Fair points about Patty and Murray.
I leant towards Marco starting to help create size matchup problems and give DeRozen a bit more freedom to post up smaller guards.
I figured with Patty it would make it harder for him to end up with a smaller guard and end up being defended by a SF
But you’re right, starting Patty would give us more flexibility and bench depth.

Your points about Marco and Manu are true. They were great to watch when they were together.


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And that's a good point about Beli's function beside DeMar, too. Patty was overextended last year because of the circumstances, so he'd sometimes get caught on switches and it wasn't optimal. But he did play in all games, and know the system, so whoever he plays with, he'll be a steadying presence on and off the court.

Though other guys have to step up on D with Danny and Kyle gone, I like the versatility the new guys offer. It also depends on who's hot or not on any given night, and who we're playing to exploit favourable match-ups. I'm looking forward to seeing how we come together.
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#24 » by Thugleavy34 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:07 am

No one has yet mentioned

Murray
Walker
DeRozan
Aldridge
Poetl

I know Pop is hard on rookies, but I also know he's a smart dude that does what it takes to win. I believe in Walker's game tremendously and I think this will end up being the Spurs best lineup
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#25 » by CoachD » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:47 pm

100% Jakob should be your starting center. He defends the pick and roll as well / better than any other big ... and he's a HIGH efficiency guy at the rim. He's also a VERY underrated rim protector.

Whatever you do ... DO NOT start or even play Rudy and Demar together. We tried that in Toronto and it sent us straight to the lottery. The two of them are too similar in play style, and neither shoots the 3 ball well. Teams sag on both of them, completely clogging up the paint and protecting against their drives and mid-range pull ups. That would also have a horrible effect on Aldridge and Gasol who love those mid-range shots.

Stagger Demar and Rudy.

Also ... Demar has DRASTICALLY improved as a ball handler, but he still CAN'T GO LEFT. When he dribble drives from the left side of the floor, it's essentially a couple of dribbles into a pull up. This is why in the Raptors system he ALWAYS played the 2, running the lanes on the right side of the floor in transition. He'd come off pindowns and curl on the right side, but on the left side it was almost always a pull-up or a quick 2 step into a post move
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#26 » by popfan » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:31 pm

CoachD wrote:100% Jakob should be your starting center. He defends the pick and roll as well / better than any other big ... and he's a HIGH efficiency guy at the rim. He's also a VERY underrated rim protector.


I agree about starting Poetl at center. In addition to the reasons you gave, I'd add -- as others have -- that LMA doesn't want to play center. Poetl and LMA are likely a good fit. If we did this, then we'd need shooters at the other three starting positions.

Meanwhile it's unclear if Gay wants to be a starter given his Achilles tendon injury 18 months ago. If he does, then he may need to find another team due to the presence of DeRozan. I suspect that Rudy is prioritizing NBA longevity over NBA stardom. If so, Rudy probably is a bench player for us.

Our bench will be stacked with experienced players -- Pau, Rudy, Manu and Belinelli -- plus Bertans. All five of those guys can shoot from beyond the arc, which would compensate for their liabilities. If the starting five perform well as a unit, we could be formidable this year.

I don't buy into the gimmick fun-and-gun offense of the Rockets and their coach. Meanwhile, the Warriors and Lakers (LeBron) will be contenders in the West. We need to be better than the Jazz, Thunder and Rockets to be formidable. Could Poetl + LMA + DeRozan + some shooters outperform the starters for the Jazz, Thunder and Rockets? That's the question.

Poetl vs Capella/Gobert/Adams
LMA vs Anderson/Favors/George
DeRozan vs Johnson/Ingles/Patterson(?)

If we need more 3pt shooting, we swap Gasol for Poetl. We look competitive.
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#27 » by HitTheJ » Wed Aug 1, 2018 9:41 pm

Who's option number 1? has this been discussed at all?
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Re: 2019 Starting Lineup / Rotations? 

Post#28 » by imagump1313 » Wed Aug 1, 2018 11:24 pm

HitTheJ wrote:Who's option number 1? has this been discussed at all?


Probably Aldridge with DeRozan a close 2nd. No way to actually know any of that until they start playing together.
The team hasn't talked about any of that yet that I have seen.

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