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Post#41 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:53 am

Bigs workout alert! Enter Jay Huff, almost 23, 7'1", 240lbs, PF/C:
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Tall, lean, skilled and lethal from 3pt land, Huff will get a long look from NBA teams thanks to his ability to space the floor and guard at the rim.

Huff posted great shooting splits as a senior (58/39/84) thanks to his great shooting ability and smart shot selection. His 3pt shot at his height is a dangerous weapon and gives him a clear NBA role.

Huff averaged 2.6 blocks per game as a senior and is very adept at defending at the rim. He’s a bit lacking in bulk and might get pushed around early in his career but shows a lot of promise as a shot blocker. He’s got decent versatility on D, although he won’t be confused for Clint Capela any time soon.

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Post#42 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:29 pm

Catch up race continues! Next up on the workout circuit is Jordan Goodwin, 22, 6'3", 205lbs, G:
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PROFILE:

Goodwin (6-3, 205 lbs.) graduated as the Billikens’ all-time leader in steals (225), 4th in rebounds (998), 5th in assists (404), and 11th in points scored (1,460) according to the school.
Averaged 14.5 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 43% shooting, and 31% shooting from the 3-point line last season.
Improved his 3-point shooting at the recent 2021 pro-day to a 40% average. It was at pro-day where he caught the Spurs' attention.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-workout-profile-jordan-goodwin

Pros:

Adequate scorer off the dribble

Can post up smaller players

Excels at scoring on off-ball motion plays

Adequate playmaker

Very good rebounder

Solid defender that can get steals

Good athlete

Cons:

Needs to improve his shooting

Needs to improve his free throw shooting

Struggles to score in traffic

Can be prone to hoisting up questionable shots

Can play too wildly on offense

Can gamble too much on defense

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/jordan-goodwin-scouting-report/

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Post#43 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:48 pm

Here a guard, there a guard, everywhere a guard! Projected around our #41 pick, we worked out 22-year-old Aaron Wiggins, a 6'6", 190lbs SG with a 6'9.75" wingspan and shot 35% from 3, 77.2% from FT.

An all around wing talent who can really stroke the ball from deep.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2021-2nd-round/

Pros:

Solid shooter, especially from deep

Decent scorer off the dribble

Can post up smaller players

Excels at scoring on the move

Decent playmaker

Moves well off the ball on offense

Adequate rebounder

Solid athlete

Cons:

Streaky shooter

Can struggle to score in traffic

Does not draw many free throws

Can be careless on offense, which can lead to turnovers

Can have lapses defensively

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Post#44 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:55 pm

Ten days ago we had Turkish teen C-sensation Alperen Sengun visit us for a workout. He averaged 19/8.7/2/7 per game on 63.2% FG, along with 1.6 blocks, 1.3 steals and 2.4 TOs versus more experienced pros. Good handles, excellent skill, vision, and feel that's innate.

He's now most often linked to the Kings at #9, but I've heard some draft podcasts do mocks where he falls to us, and from the available selections Sengun is chosen for us because of rather lazy international player to the Spurs reasons. Meanwhile, the NBA MVP and FMVP are international on other teams. I don't mind the association, it's a compliment, but the reasoning wasn't explored beyond it.

I like Sengun but have my reservations. I don't really know how good the Turkish league is, and in reference to which does it stand out as better or worse. There's some debate about it on the boards here among international basketball fans and in articles. The general consensus is that Sengun is competitive, strong with a body that can still put on weight, has great touch around the rim, and has some nice post up and spin moves that trick defenders time and again. He's only 19 and held his own playing against older competition, so that in itself is a positive. He was named this league's MVP, another plus.

Although his game is more traditional, he has shown he can hit the 3 and is willing to stretch, although he has poor efficiency from the 3 this past season. He's not a defensive anchor, but again, young and willing, he's not oblivious to the defensive end. But whether he can keep up with the quick defenders of the NBA is a question.

He's very skilled in terms of the inside moves he has, and these are blended with a natural ability and agility to fake defenders. This feel, along with terrific court vision for very solid passing, and bull determination in rebounding make him a tantalizing package. Terrific FT shooter and gets to the line 6.6 times per game.

Just as the level of competition is a question - honestly, from the videos I've seen, the bigs in his league body up under the basket but don't really contest the shots anywhere near like they do in the NBA - so, too, is his height.

He's listed at 6'10" and although there are some smaller Cs in the league, they're bulls in addition to being very athletic whereas Sengun doesn't possess that bounce or above the rim play. But he may actually be around 6'9" (I mean, so was athletic in-his-own way Larry Bird; not that I'm comparing them, but talent finds a way to impose its game). His wingspan, on the other hand, isn't listed anywhere, which again, for a less above the rim player, you have to look at projection of extent of ability overcoming physical profile limitations versus opponents:



Whiteside is at least 7'0".

So will Sengun be more of a PF/C in the NBA? With our push towards more of a transition game (which rumours of our pursuit of Collins fits), where does Sengun's half court, post wizardry fit? Then again, having an intelligent player with a feel for the game you can't teach, great vision, excellent footwork, and a competitive heart, you have to take a long look. And you can't have enough versatility for opponents to deal with. If he's deemed BPA by PATFO, I trust it. The last interview I saw with him, Sengun needed a translator. Not a huge issue, but it initially is an additional step for both sides. If Sengun, Jones, and Moody are all available at #12, I wonder who we have listed as BPA overall.

PLUSES

He’s a dancer on the low post. He has unbelievable footwork, doesn’t predetermine his moves, and he can finish through tons of contact using either hand from difficult angles. He lives at the free throw line.

Sets strong screens and finishes at a high level on rolls to the rim thanks to his good hands and feel. He’ll use spins, fakes, and pivots to create space off the bounce. He can also finish loudly if he has space to leap.

Excellent passer with the upside to be an offensive hub. He facilitates from the post, the elbows, and even brings the ball up the court.

Untapped shooting potential: He shot nearly 80 percent from the line this past year and has good touch around the rim.

Heat-seeking missile as an offensive rebounder.

Good on-ball defensive potential if his athleticism improves in the pros. He has fluidity but needs to work on his technique.

Active off-ball defender. His hustle and spirit are major positives when projecting forward as he continues to hone his fundamentals and discipline.

MINUSES

He’s a nonshooter right now, but he has potential if he changes his mechanics—he has inconsistent footwork and it looks like his off-hand might be affecting his shot.

He’s undersized as a true center so it might be a challenge for him to battle on the post against larger bigs.

What is his position defensively? His slow feet and lack of verticality and length hold him back, meaning he’ll need to learn to be a positional defender.

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Post#45 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:16 pm

And back to perimeter players we go:
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David Duke, Jr., will be 22 in October, 6'5", 205lbs:

Duke has shown steady improvement during his time at Providence, becoming a complete guard who can score from inside or out and play on or off the ball. He’s a consistent outside shooter who rises up with good form and a nice release.

Duke has a strong build with broad shoulders and good strength. He’s got good handles and can penetrate the lane, despite not having an elite first step. He shows good body control, can score from a variety of positions and has a nice deceleration/step back move to get his shot.

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Post#46 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:32 pm

This is about as confirmed a report as there was about Devontae Shuler working out for us:
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Shuler's a 23-year-old, 6'2", 185lbs SG who averaged 15.3/3/3.3 on 40.9%FG.

He was ninth in steals (1.5 spg), and joined Vanderbilt’s Scotty Pippen Jr. as one of only two players to rank in the Top 10 in the SEC in all three categories. He recorded eight 20-point games, including a 26-point effort in a win at Auburn in February. Shuler sank a game-winning jumper at the buzzer in overtime and was named SEC Player of the Week for the first time.

Over 124 career games, 99 starts, Shuler, a three-year starter at point guard for head coach Kermit Davis, finished ranked Top 10 in school history in four categories, including steals and three-pointers made. His 56 steals as a sophomore are an Ole Miss record.

https://247sports.com/college/ole-miss/Article/Devontae-Shuler-makes-official-again-his-departure-from-Ole-Miss-signs-with-agent-164987210/

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Post#47 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:40 pm

SF/PF Trenton Watford, 21 in November, is 6'8", 220lbs, with a 7'1.5" wingspan:

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Watford checks in at No. 60 and could be worth drafting for his face-up scoring, paint touch and passing skills.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945939-post-nba-finals-mock-draft-2-round-predictions-and-latest-buzz

Watford is a natural scorer from the wing position. He has a soft touch in the lane and knows how to find his shot, using his great length and creativity. He’s got a strong build, a good frame, solid athleticism and a nice feel for the game.

A scorer who excels at taking it to the rim and finishing in the lane, Watford plays a versatile game and impacts on both ends of the floor. His greatest strength is scoring off the dribble and working his way into the lane, where he can overpower defenders and use his soft touch to finish the play. He can score through contact and has enough bounce to play above the rim.

Plays an unselfish game and tends to make the right play. Can create for teammates and knows how to move the ball and find the open man. Can play some point forward, showing good awareness, ball-handling ability and decision making.

Gets to the rim with either hand and is really hard to stay in front of. Plays with change of pace and has a nice euro step, which he uses often.

Has a lot of natural strength and great length. Looks the part of an NBA forward.

Isn’t a great three point or mid range shooter at this stage of his career. He does a lot of his scoring in the lane, overpowering smaller players, which won’t work out as well at higher levels of play. Has a slight hitch in his shot but this is an area where he’ll likely make major improvements over the next few years.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/trendon-watford/

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Post#48 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:57 pm

An athletic, big body C, Jericho Sims, 23 in October, measures in a 6'10", 250lbs, with a 7'3.25" wingspan:

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Sims improved each and every season at Texas, becoming a force in the paint on both ends of the floor. He’s not a high scoring player and his offense is still a work in progress but he really knows his role, doing all the dirty work of setting screens, defending in the paint and rebounding the ball.

He’s built like a rock with great upper body strength and explosive leaping ability. He’s a high level rebounder and a decent shot blocker.

Sims is limited offensively but he plays within himself and doesn’t force the issue. This past season he shot 69.6% from the field, scoring mostly on dunks and lay ups. It’s possible he’ll develop a mid range jumper and a 3pt shot in time but that’s not what teams will be asking him to do.

His FT% is barely over 50%, which doesn’t bode well for him developing into much of a shooter.

Sims didn’t progress as much as we had hoped from his freshman season through his senior year. Doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the game.

https://nbadraftroom.com/jericho-sims/

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Post#49 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:29 pm

Another PF option:
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Giorgi Bezhanishvili, who will be 23 in November, is a 6'9", 230lbs PF with a 7'2" wingspan.

It wouldn’t shock me to see Giorgi stick with an NBA team in some role-player capacity. He is slightly undersized at 6-foot-9, but he has tremendous athletic ability and a high motor.

Two years ago, Giorgi was trying to develop his three-point game and boosted his numbers from 16.7-percent to 30.6-percent from beyond the three-point arc. That type of improvement is what NBA scouts are probably looking for in a player.

Beyond the actual tangible ability Giorgi brings to the table, he has a lot of the intangibles a team would want. Giorgi is a great locker room guy who can bring a team together. He is someone who will do the dirty work but isn’t a me-first type of player. This guy will help with team chemistry.

https://writingillini.com/2021/07/06/illinois-basketball-giorgi-bezhanishvili-getting-workout-nba-team/

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Post#50 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:49 pm

Three front court players in a row! Isaiah Jackson, raw but very athletic and showing some promise, is a 19.5-year-old PF/C standing at 6'10.5", 206lbs, with a huge 7'2.5" wingspan:

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PLUSES

Incredible athlete who explodes off the floor and has the fluidity to cover a lot of ground and defend on the perimeter.

Excellent rim-protecting potential if his fundamentals improve since he’s such an eager and instinctual shot blocker. He can swat away shots using either hand.

Intuitive offensive rebounder who forces defenses to be aware at all times or he’ll take advantage.

Above-the-rim finisher who’s a constant threat to finish lobs.

Solid face-up game: He has a quick first step, and attacks aggressively off the dribble.

MINUSES

Lacks the necessary size and strength at this stage of his physical development. He’ll need to add a ton of weight without hindering his mobility.

Undisciplined defense. He often falls into foul trouble or out of position entirely when on the ball, biting on pump fakes or attempting to block shots when he should stay down and box out.

Defensive fundamentals are also lacking: prone to be attacked off the dribble due to his poor stance. Sometimes he makes up for it with his athleticism, but doing that in the NBA will be a whole different challenge.

Back-to-the basket scoring: Even when he seals off defenders inside, he lacks fluidity when turning around and putting the ball up.

Playmaking skills. He’s not a proactive offensive player. If his first move is covered, there’s a strong chance a turnover or sloppy shot will follow.

Still developing into a reliable shooter, which will be the key to unlocking his full potential as a face-up scorer.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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Post#51 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:04 pm

Syracuse SG Alan Griffin, 21, is 6'5", 190lbs and worked out for us recently:

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Griffin is a high scoring shooting guard with a quick trigger release and nice one on one ability. He’s not the most efficient scorer but does a good job of pressuring the defense, drawing fouls and he’s lethal from the FT line.

Griffin is an active defender who plays with good fundamentals and buys in on the defensive end. His steals and blocks numbers might be inflated by the Syracuse zone but it’s still impressive to over 1.5 steals and 1.5 blocks from a 6-5 shooting guard.

His stock is on the rise and he’s looking more and more like a second round draft pick.

https://nbadraftroom.com/alan-griffin/

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Post#52 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:14 pm

Curious that we also worked out speedy, undersized PG Davion Mitchell, three months shy of his 23rd birthday, he stands at 6'1.25", 202lbs, with a 6'4.25" wingspan. Sharpshooter from the 3 at 44.7%, but strangely only 64.1% from FT line. Good efficiency otherwise. Solid defender.

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PLUSES

Dynamic shot creator who has a speedy first step and can change directions on a dime. He shifts gears with his dribble to keep opponents off-balance, creating space for pull-up jumpers or drives to the rim.

Made a huge leap as a 3-point shooter, going from 31 percent over his first two seasons to 45 percent as a junior. It could be an outlier season, but he looks the part.

Comfortable finishing below the rim with either hand. On his drives, he plays with patience using subtle hesitations and fakes.

Good playmaker who delivers accurate passes to spot-up shooters and rolling bigs. He also looks comfortable handling pressure.

Excellent defender who sets the tone with his intensity, focus, and hustle. He’ll sprint for chase-down blocks, take charges, and dive for loose balls.

Switchable defender with active hands who’s excellent at moving laterally against quick guards. He’s also strong and tough enough to handle larger scorers.

Disciplined pick-and-roll defender who can fight through screens and stick to his man.

High-IQ off-ball defender who is always in the right position, makes smart rotations, and closes out quickly on shooters.

MINUSES

Lacks the type of wingspan possessed by most elite defenders.

Below-the-rim finisher who lacks elite athleticism and could struggle against NBA rim protectors.

Rarely got to the free throw line in college.

Subpar free throw shooter, which raises questions about his high 3-point shooting percentage as a junior.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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Post#53 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:26 pm

Another projected undrafted prospect is soon-to-be 20 Alex Antetokounmpo, a 6'8", 214lbs SF with a 7'2" wingspan:

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The youngest Antetokounmpo brother, Alex has good potential thanks to his awesome length, developing skills and great bloodlines but he’s also got a long ways to go to reach that potential. He already has a 7-2 wingspan and should continue to grow over the years – and if he can grow his basketball game at the same time, he’ll move up future draft boards.

Alex is developing good physical tools, similar to his brother Giannis but doesn’t have the fluid athleticism of Giannis.

He shows flashes of how good he can be and should develop consistency and expand his game over the coming years.

He projects as a good defender and high level rebounder for his position. He’s got good defensive instincts and a nose for the ball.

Alex has good open court ability and will only get better, as he grows into his body and improves his coordination.

His game is still very raw and undeveloped and his offensive game lacks polish. He doesn’t shoot the ball consistently well and doesn’t have a great handle (yet).

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/alex-antetokounmpo/

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Post#54 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm

We also worked out senior forward Jamorko Pickett who will turn 24 in December. He's 6'9", 206lbs.

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Pros:

Decent shooter, especially from deep

Decent low post scorer

Good free throw shooter

Adequate playmaker for his size

Solid rebounder for his size

Adequate defender

Above average athlete

Cons:

Lacks an elite first step off the dribble

Prone to hoisting up questionable shots

Can be turnover prone

Can be undisciplined defensively

Not an elite athlete

Old for a draft prospect, may have limited upside

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Post#55 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:46 pm

And finally, the final most recent workout was with one of my dark horse choices, Ziaire Williams:

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I did a write up earlier on him: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=92100995#p92100995
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Post#56 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:37 pm

SO, that's four pure PGs, six PG/SGs, seven SGs, six SG/SFs, five SFs, one SF/PF, one PF, three PF/Cs, two Cs.

Quantity does not necessarily indicate interest; for example, we spent extra time with Kai Jones who falls into the PF/C category. But it is interesting that the lot of guards we connected with were 1. two-way players 2. shot the 3 very well and 3. had a high FT rate per FGA.

We connected with five players hovering around our #12 pick: Kai Jones (who we interviewed early and worked out and dined late); Keon Johnson (again, earlier interview, later workout); Corey Kispert; Moses Moody (we met at Combine, spoke to his agent); Alperen Sengun (we worked him out on July 19).

IF we trade down, there were some projected options later in the first round that we met: Murphy, Ziaire, Keon Johnson, Tre Mann, Jaden Springer, Isaiah Jackson, maybe Davion Mitchell.

SO, I *THINK* my favourites align with those of the Spurs:

If we stay at #12 - Kai / Moody / Sengun / Giddey? (we didn't connect with him)

If we trade back - Murphy, Ziaire

#41* - Vrenz, Wieskamp, Boston (we didn't connect with him), maybe Huff, though he's a reach at that spot, maybe can be a camp invite if he's undrafted

Undrafted invitations - Yves Pons, Jericho Sims so far...

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Post#57 » by G R E Y » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:52 am

So that's one guy I thought we'd target, Giddey, off the board. We didn't connect with him, though, and he was climbing up the mocks, so not a huge surprise.
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Post#59 » by imagump1313 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 am

There goes Zaire!!!! Now I'm pulling for Johnson....
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Post#60 » by G R E Y » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:08 am

imagump1313 wrote:There goes Zaire!!!! Now I'm pulling for Johnson....

That's the Grizzlies pick which can't be completed until whatever dates pass. But yeah he went like 8 spots higher. Which means there's a lot more to choose from: Kai, Moody, Sengun... perhaps we trade back?

I thought we could trade back for Ziaire, but he's off the board now, too.
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