co_laper wrote:As far as RJ, I think you can't compare his GS numbers to Jackson's Spurs numbers. If you want to compare numbers, atleast compare it to what he did here.
I already did, right before I mentioned his GS numbers. Jefferson's stats with SA were better than Jackson's with SA. I also feel they're a little bit deceptive too, because Ginobili has been injured all year, and RJ did very well with him. Just like Jackson is now, getting tons of open shots and assists off Ginobili. But despite that, RJ still put up decent stats. Especially from 3. Look how Jackson struggled from 3 tonight, bricking so many wide open shots. He's going to miss them more often than not. . .he is not Jefferson from beyond the arc. To make matters even more scary, Jackson missed a lot of layups tonight too (against the Hornets). If he can't even finish around the rim, we might's well just increase Leonard's minutes because he at least does that well, and doesn't shoot any worse from the arc (can't believe I even just gave Leonard props for his 3pt ability).
Once Jackson's shooting % comes down to normal after his couple of hot games, you'll have a more accurate presentation of what I predicted. Similar rebounding and assist numbers, lower 3pt%, probably similar FG%, maybe slightly better or worse since RJ's was down due to Ford and Ginobili being out all year, and yet, more FGAs and barely better PPG on inferior efficiency. In other words, a lateral movement at best, and a diminished 3pt game by the Spurs, and a player who's more content to dribble around and jack it up or dribble around and drive and force it up over 3 defenders. Exactly what we didn't need. The absence of that kind of player is precisely why SA has remained consistently good. . .we haven't settled on isolation ball like so many awful eastern conference teams tend to do.
Ballings7 wrote:SinJackal
Yes, I'm going to post about Jackson's play on a consistent basis (this doesn't mean every game, it means as a frequency)... why? Because the guy is a main player on the team. Just like Parker is. Just like Splitter is. Just like Jefferson was.
His role isn't even as close to as significant as Parker's, or even Splitter's for that matter. Parker is 8th in the MVP standings right now and been the best player on the team this year. Jackson isn't even the 5th best player on the team. Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, Splitter, Leonard, Blair, then Jackson, and close to Jackson is Green, followed by Gary Neal who is having a bit of a down year due to having to play off position all year.
Deal with my fandom of Jackson, or go complain to somebody who might care that I like Jackson more than Jefferson for the team, that I'm posting about a player that I've followed for years and enjoyed. There's an ignore feature too if you just can't handle it.
Is that supposed to be a joke? I guess you just devalued your entire opinion by saying that though, thank you for saving me the time of trying to logically debate about it when you already have your mind made up regardless of the facts and information being presented to you, due to being a self-proclaimed stan of Jackson.
If he ends up sucking, then I'll relate to what happened on here, just like I usually do for anybody else. But again, that isn't a favorable situation to occur.
No you won't. He just had a bad night and you claimed he played really well.
SinJackal wrote:Ballingz, let's wait until Jackson's played 10 games before we herald it as a better fit. You post in like every thread about him after every game. He's averaging less rebounds and assists, and barely averages more points than RJ did. What's the big deal? You just like the flashier way he scores? Pfft.
More to the game than scoring, chap
Then talk about more than just their scoring, like I've been doing the whole time.
don't remember seeing Jefferson play defense like Jackson can and has, much in his whole tenure in SA. Wasn't a bad defender sure, RJ was/is respectable, but there's still a difference. That doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Also, Jefferson left his rebounding ability in New Jersey, Jackson's been a more involved rebounder since Jefferson left NJ.
That's because you're too busy hating on him to ever give him props. He's won us games with defense both this year and last year, getting some clutch steals or blocks.
Jefferson's is and always been a better rebounder than Jackson too. Other than 2011, Jefferson's TRB% has been higher than Jackson's every year they've been in the league at the same time, for their entire careers. I guess lying revisionist historian with an obvious agenda is your second job.
Also, there's only been three games so far with Jax, so yeah I'll post in just about all of them like I usually do.
Obviously, and you'll be saying how great he is even when he shoots 33%, and barely gets any boards or assist like usual, forcing up bad shots, blowing three layups, getting scored on a dozen times including "slipping" on the floor after getting crossed over twice. But he played great! Becuase. . .well, I guess because the Spurs won! And he scored double figures! Because everything else doesn't seem to matter to you.