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GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:00 am
by Nolan
When: 8:00 PM ET, March 24, 2012
Where: New Orleans Arena, New Orleans, LA

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Starting Lineups:

Spurs:
PG - Manu Ginobili
SG - Daniel Green
SF - Kawhi Leonard
PF - Tim Duncan
C - DeJuan Blair

Hornets:
PG - Jarrett Jack
SG - Marco Belinelli
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Gustavo Ayon
C - Chris Kaman

We're coming off a big win against the Mav's to face the Hornets on the second night of a back to back.

The banged up Hornets have been playing fairly well lately so we need to be careful and we can't walk into this one thinking its going to be an easy win.

Go Spurs!!

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:05 am
by co_laper
We're on a back to back and it's an away game so our legs might not be there. But that's still no reason for us to lose this game. We're the more talented and deeper bunch. It's our third game that I'm sure will result in a loss. And it's likely that we sit out TD and Manu for either this game or the third game. Pretty sure they won't play all 3 games.

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:47 pm
by Ballings7
Be surprised if we lose

Be a bad loss, even with resting guys

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:17 am
by Ballings7
No Ariza tonight

Blair feasting... good defense from everybody so far

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:36 am
by Ballings7
This Dentman guy is scrappy - highlight being taking a charge on Landry on help

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:41 am
by Ballings7
James Anderson getting after it... two SWEET driving scores on the baseline... one a quick dunk

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:42 am
by Ballings7
Not much defense this 2nd qtr lol

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:02 am
by Ballings7
Damn that was a nice pass from Jax to Diaw... top of the arc.. good two-man game

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:32 am
by Ballings7
Apparently Jarrett Jack is Michael Jordan tonight - jesus

And definitely like how Jackson's playing on both ends, good game for him to get going even more... showing his versatility too

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:44 am
by Ballings7
Woah that was fantastic individual defense by Leonard to end the third

Duncan's been everywhere around the rim tonight

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:26 am
by Ballings7
Good enough road win - got a bit from a lot of different players

Stephen Jackson with a pretty strong game overall / Kawhi Leonard had some real nice minutes tonight... was really active, will finish better as he gets more time... had a few impressive defensive possessions

Blair is definitely nice to have with his ability to score and go after the ball around the basket... and when somebody needs rest or isn't up to par... good course of the game scoring from him...

With how Duncan can still defend around the paint and draw attention from defenses, I don't understand why people still overlook him as not a top five center

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:58 am
by SinJackal
I don't think that was a good road win. We barely beat the last place team in the west, and nearly lost it. We also nearly went to OT. We also allowed them to be in the game essentially from the opening tip all the way to the end. TERRIBLE win. That is not supposed to happen against last place teams.

Also, bad game for Jackson, but he basically just put up his averages so it doesn't surprise me. Tonight is basically what I expected from Jackson. 5-15, 3 boards, 2 assists, nearly turned it over 3x. I was shocked to see he had 0 turnovers because I feel like I saw at least 2. They must've tagged other players with TOs for his bad passes for some reason.

33% from the field, 20% from three. And you're saying it was a good game Ballingsz? -_- He basically almost lost it for us with all his late game bricks. He was ice cold in the 2nd half dude, and shot MORE than the first half. I guess you're going to see what you want to see though. As long as Jackson is breathing, you will probably think he was amazing.

Anyway, it's just one game though. Like I said before, I'll see what he does in his first 10, and not let single games determine how good I feel he is.



Worried about tomrorow's game. Duncan is likely going to be sat for rest since it's a b2b2b and he just played the last 2. . . so if Splitter's still out, we're going to get torn up inside all night long. I hope Ginobili and Parker are both playing, because we're gonna need all the firepower was have to knock off the 76ers without Duncan and Splitter.

Pop might have to bite the bullet and play Timmy some limited minutes. If we want any shot at the #1 seed, we need to either sweep the rest of March or win all but 1. April is even worse so we gotta win now. Getting top seed forces OKC to play the Lakers, so instead of us having to beat both THEN Miami or Chicago, it'll just be one of the two then the Finals. Top seed is extremely important this year for the west.

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:07 am
by Ballings7
SinJackal

I don't think it was "good" either, I said "good enough" - meaning how we played was enough to get the win.

Jackson had a few poor shots, but the rest were fine attempts whether he made or missed them... he was a constant presence off the bench on both ends of the floor... specifically, he had a big strip on a Landry offensive rebound in the middle of the lane in the 4th too which lead to a fast break... he also had a good pass leading on the break to Green but Green missed the easy lay-up (who missed almost everything tonight but that late game jumper).

Like everyone has said and I have said, there's more to the game which is a factor, than scoring and stat sheets.

Jackson overall had a positive impact on the game, if you're denying that, then you're just ignorant, chap - by the way, Richard Jefferson's playing right now :P

It was reported Splitter and Ginobili didn't make the trip to NOLA, so probably won't play in Phoenix.

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:40 am
by SinJackal
Ballings7 wrote:SinJackal

I don't think it was "good" either, I said "good enough" - meaning how we played was enough to get the win.


Yes, "we" played good enough to in, no thanks to Jackson.


Jackson had a few poor shots, but the rest were fine attempts whether he made or missed them...


And quite frankly, that was my problem with going from Jefferson to Jackson to begin with. Jefferson makes his open shots more often than Jackson. Using Jackson the same way we did RJ will yield inferior results, because he is not as good of a spot up shooter. You're going to see more 1/5 night then you will 3/4s from Jackson. Again, the guy is shooting 28% from three this year, .33.7% last year, and 33.8% for his career. Jefferson was shooting 42% from three this year, 44% last year, and 37.1% for his career.

It doesn't matter if he took open shots. I didn't say they were bad shots, so don't act like I did. The fact is, he won't hit them as much as RJ, and the OTHER shots he took, you know, the ones RJ didn't force up? Jackson bricked most of those. So this "extra dimension" Jackson brings, guess how much that helped? Oh wait, it didn't. And yet, he doesn't even replace RJ's efficient open shooting. You know, the very thing I said fit better than what Jackson brings? Anybody can force up shots and get an extra bucket every other game while jacking up 3 more shots per game. RJ could've easily done that. Going an extra 0/3 one night then 1/3 the next night, rinse repeat. That was the difference between RJ and Jackson this year before the respective trade, in terms of putting the ball in the basket. RJ was also rebounding better and turning the ball over less.



he was a constant presence off the bench on both ends of the floor... specifically, he had a big strip on a Landry offensive rebound in the middle of the lane in the 4th too which lead to a fast break... he also had a good pass leading on the break to Green but Green missed the easy lay-up (who missed almost everything tonight but that late game jumper).


In other words, his only good defensive play of the night that you're spotlighting as being a great help to the Spurs, resulted in no basket on the fast break, gotcha.


Like everyone has said and I have said, there's more to the game which is a factor, than scoring and stat sheets.


I'm not sure why you keep saying that, because you don't seem to be able to tell what's useful and what isn't. You just think different = better because you personally like the other guy more regardless of what he brings to the table. You undersell Jefferson's contributes and overstate Jackson's. That's all you're doing. There's more to the game than having big names and flashier plays. In the end, a crappy jumper is worth the same as a dunk.


ackson overall had a positive impact on the game, if you're denying that, then you're just ignorant, chap - by the way, Richard Jefferson's playing right now :P


Jackson had an overall negative impact on the game. If you're denying that, then you're just ignorant.

See how easy that is? Crappy argument used by people who can't support their point with any facts.


It was reported Splitter and Ginobili didn't make the trip to NOLA, so probably won't play in Phoenix.


Speaking of ignorance, the Spurs' next game is in San Antonio. The Spurs don't play their home games in Phoenix. :lol:

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:06 am
by Donald Kaufman
I'm guessing SinJackal likes the sound of his own voice.

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:05 am
by BFrizzy
I just dont get why SinJackal has to be so combative in his responses. Presenting an alternative argument is fine, but no need to go after the other posters. Just play the ball man.

GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:58 pm
by Black_Jack21
Did sjax steal your bike or something once upon a time lol ??

Not our best game, came away with the win none the less.

Let's hope we get ourselves up for the 3rd game of the b2b2b

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:15 pm
by batmana
No such thing as a bad win. By the way people are judging the Hornets by their record but they've been in more games than it suggests. They just don't have a go-to guy (Eric Gordon played in a grand 2 games this season) and usually end up losing even after playing well for 40-some minutes. I absolutely expected this game to be as close as it was and when it comes to wins, I'll take them any way they come.

The Jackson - Jefferson debate is getting ridiculous. I just posted in the previous game thread about it so I'll keep my word and not post here. Let's just be Spurs fans and forget about our past players.

Go Spurs go!!!

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:19 pm
by Ballings7
Yes, my bad on the Phoenix and Philly games coming up.. I looked at the schedule a bit ahead

SinJackal

I actually don't care, chap... didn't even bother reading another one of your weirdly long posts already knew the nature of it, and a saw a few bits of it - I scrolled right on down past it, so you wasted your time (plus the quote would take up like a whole page). :o

So far, Jax has provided a different element than what Jefferson was bringing to the team. That's my conclusion on the comparision.

I'm just going to agree to disagree, and let the play be indicative of how the major result is by Jackson's play for the team. Feel free to post as you want, but you have an obsessive complexity disorder.

Re: GT: Spurs vs. Hornets

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:01 pm
by Donald Kaufman
SJax probably hit on his girl or something. He mad.