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I get the impression that Duncan plays one more year? It seems the biggest team need is to find someone to replace the Manu punch. That would seem to be Paul Pierce.

I also wonder if they will go back to an old crush and sign Bourousis. He was asking full MLE but I think he'll be asking for less these days. I could also see the Spurs hot after Luigi Datome. They need a few unique pieces to put enough punch around the BIG 3... Leonard, Duncan, and Parker.

I doubt we do much outside of resigning Neal, Splitter and Manu if he still wants to play.

I do like the idea of adding Paul Pierce if the Celtics do decide to blow it up. Effective scorer who knows what it takes to win.

Bourousis is an interesting dude as well, if he's still interested in coming over and if we don't draft a big in the 1st round I could see us being interested at the right price. Despite the trend towards small ball you can never have enough size.

Nolan wrote:I doubt we do much outside of resigning Neal, Splitter and Manu if he still wants to play.

I do like the idea of adding Paul Pierce if the Celtics do decide to blow it up. Effective scorer who knows what it takes to win.

Bourousis is an interesting dude as well, if he's still interested in coming over and if we don't draft a big in the 1st round I could see us being interested at the right price. Despite the trend towards small ball you can never have enough skilled size.

Fixed. The Spurs spent all season trying to make Splitter-Duncan work, and Splitter was on the bench when it mattered.

Patman wrote:Fixed. The Spurs spent all season trying to make Splitter-Duncan work, and Splitter was on the bench when it mattered.

Duncan/Splitter has worked and had been working until the finals then Splitter just **** the bed. I don't know if he was hurt or if it was a conditioning issue but he was horrid in the finals.

Nolan wrote:

Patman wrote:Fixed. The Spurs spent all season trying to make Splitter-Duncan work, and Splitter was on the bench when it mattered.

Duncan/Splitter has worked and had been working until the finals then Splitter just **** the bed. I don't know if he was hurt or if it was a conditioning issue but he was horrid in the finals.

He was never the same after that LeBron block.

I figured the finals meant splitter would not be brought back.

I just learned that you guys had max cap space this offseason? How about signing Josh Smith? The spurs would be historically good defensively.

When asked about retirement in post game presser, Duncan said "I still have two years left on my contract" so I think the "End of an Era" headlines are hype. Duncan will be back, Pop and TP next to him.

Manu will be a little bit more difficult to read. There's no doubt he'll play until he's ground his body into dust, but what that looks like in his mind may be different than everyone else imagines. A bright spot here is that I don't think there will be too many teams clamoring to offer him a contract, so we may get a discount on loyalty in bringing him back. I think the key to a smoother exit for Manu's career is a solid backup PG, who would allow him to focus on solely scoring rather than facilitating thus cutting down on TOs. (Here's looking at Colo and CoJo...?)

We'd be crazy not to bring back Splitter (for the right price). There is really not a better candidate for the Spurs offense or Duncan-pairing out there. It's clear that MIA's defense was just too fast for him, but throughout the season he played much better than the Tiago of 2012 OKC. He improved significantly this year, but this series was a bad matchup for him. Don't forget he's the one who closed out gm 6 @ GSW over Duncan. He's not Gasol, Hibbert, or Ibaka, but he fits well with a Parker-centric team.

I love Neal. But that's a guy I have no idea what we do with. If the Spurs FO doesn't bring him back they'll need to swing a pretty sweet deal to make me feel at ease. Minus Manu, he's our offensive punch off the bench. There are always a lot of names at SG in the FA market though.

Did anyone else get nostalgic for Stephen Jax about midway through the series? Wish we could've had a bit more of an edge and maybe a few technicals flying around in gms 6 & 7.

As unsexy as it is to say it, I think most of this offseason's improvements are going to have to come internally. It is going to be so hard to gauge the ceiling of this team now. Clearly Kawhi is in his own stratosphere. I think Green, Neal, and Splitter's trend of improvement will continue for maybe a season or two. But will Tony still be in MVP conversations? Will Tim sustain his resurrection year? We'll have one or two slots open come training camp for sure, but I can't imagine anyone filling those slots being a major part of next year's playoff run. I mean it's not like Rasho and Oberto are going to come walking back through that door.

pancakes3 wrote:I just learned that you guys had max cap space this offseason? How about signing Josh Smith? The spurs would be historically good defensively.

We don't enough cap space to sign a max player, in fact we really don't have the space to sign anyone significant unless they're taking a major pay cut. The cap holds from Splitter and Neal take up most of that cap room and resigning Manu's going to eat the rest of it.

I believe Manu needs to be resigned for several reasons, but not Gary Neal. I expect him and Gary Neal to cost roughly the same to resign. If JJ barea can get 4+ mil per after a championship run so can Gary Neal. I expect Manu to resign for 5 mill per. Manu is the superior play though, shots about the same from 3 and is the better facilitator. Also, Gary Neal is a bit undersized for the 2 guard. With De Colo and Mills still on the roster, both of which are better as true point guards it makes sense to let him walk.

I disagree about Splitter being the best available option next for the Spurs. For about the same more or slightly more, Millsap is a better option. He has a far superior shot and is also better in the post. He is also a pretty solid passer so his skill set would fit nicely with the Spurs. He is less likely to get overpaid than Splitter because he is a pf and not a center. A team that desperately wants a true center like Portland is likely to overpay him. Al Jefferson makes sense but the cost maybe to much for the spurs plus his defense is pretty bad. Sign and trade Neal for Millsap makes sense to me for both teams. That may even allow Splitter to be brought back also.

Spurs will also likely use their MLE. Tony Allen, Kevin Martin, Corey Brewer, Mozgov all make sense.

Nolan wrote:I doubt we do much outside of resigning Neal, Splitter and Manu if he still wants to play.

I do like the idea of adding Paul Pierce if the Celtics do decide to blow it up. Effective scorer who knows what it takes to win.

Bourousis is an interesting dude as well, if he's still interested in coming over and if we don't draft a big in the 1st round I could see us being interested at the right price. Despite the trend towards small ball you can never have enough size.

I'm calling it: Monta Ellis. He seems like the right piece for them off of the bench to play backup PG role, alongside a re-signed Manu.

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:I'm calling it: Monta Ellis. He seems like the right piece for them off of the bench to play backup PG role, alongside a re-signed Manu.

I'll be absolutely shocked if we sign him. We don't have the money to sign him and he really doesn't fit in with our system.

how much capspace do you guys have again? close to 8mil?

John Thomas wrote:how much capspace do you guys have again? close to 8mil?

17-20m if they dont resign supergary, turnoboli, splitter, blair, tmac

i throw in parker as trade bait if the spurs are clearly rebuilding for the future around KL, with duncan as defensive anchor we can still be a playoff contender....just need to get rid of the mentally weak ass players on the team...

spurs either bring everyone back except for a few players would be nice

i want tmac to return on the spurs

duncan/baynes
diaw/bonner
KL/tmac
green/colo
parker/cojo/mills

17m to spend and 2 draft picks...
ginoboli anything above MLE is overpaying for his turnovers
dont know about bringing supergary back, dude is hopeless on defense and forcing him to be a pg was stupid
money left behind go chase some young stud like cousin, aljeff, brewer
could get rid of cojo, mills and sign a vet PG, maybe beno to vet....

UDRIH14 wrote:

John Thomas wrote:how much capspace do you guys have again? close to 8mil?

17-20m if they dont resign supergary, turnoboli, splitter, blair, tmac

i throw in parker as trade bait if the spurs are clearly rebuilding for the future around KL, with duncan as defensive anchor we can still be a playoff contender....just need to get rid of the mentally weak ass players on the team...

spurs either bring everyone back except for a few players would be nice

i want tmac to return on the spurs

duncan/baynes
diaw/bonner
KL/tmac
green/colo
parker/cojo/mills

17m to spend and 2 draft picks...
ginoboli anything above MLE is overpaying for his turnovers
dont know about bringing supergary back, dude is hopeless on defense and forcing him to be a pg was stupid
money left behind go chase some young stud like cousin, aljeff, brewer
could get rid of cojo, mills and sign a vet PG, maybe beno to vet....

LMAO!!!!
First you want to get rid of the so-called"mentally weak ass players" but then you want to keep Tracy McGrady? Are you stoned? This is the San Antonio Spurs, not the Lakers or Clippers who do stupid crap like that ......
Also, Parker is only 1 year older than Lebron James and he fits the Spurs system perfectly. They would never trade him.
Gary Neal is going to want too much money I'm afraid.
Manu will try to make up for his awful games 6 and 7 all year and Popovich clearly trusts him to a fault so he's not going anywhere.
McGrady won't be here unless he can prove to someone he can play this summer.
They are going to try for a PG in the draft and free agency or probably someone to back up Leonard. I don't see them doing much else.

imagump1313 wrote:
LMAO!!!!
First you want to get rid of the so-called"mentally weak ass players" but then you want to keep Tracy McGrady? Are you stoned? This is the San Antonio Spurs, not the Lakers or Clippers who do stupid crap like that ......
Also, Parker is only 1 year older than Lebron James and he fits the Spurs system perfectly. They would never trade him.
Gary Neal is going to want too much money I'm afraid.
Manu will try to make up for his awful games 6 and 7 all year and Popovich clearly trusts him to a fault so he's not going anywhere.
McGrady won't be here unless he can prove to someone he can play this summer.
They are going to try for a PG in the draft and free agency or probably someone to back up Leonard. I don't see them doing much else.

is there anything wrong with tmac playing backup point forward for the vet? thats better then having neal/ginoboli playing point forward with the stupid turnovers, hence with tmacs length we can continue to play a zone if his defense is not up to scratch, the limited minutes he has shown he still can play if his willing to accept a small role...

the mock drafts has spurs picking undersize pgs again, fck this ****...6 straight years wasting picks on looking for a backup PG is pissin me off....why not go sign a vet PG instead of waiting to draft and develop one, we already got mills, cojo and colo...

I guess if McGrady can prove that he can still play I wouldn't mind him sticking around. He has all summer to condition and prove himself. I can't get out of my mind how awful he looked every time he stepped on the court this year though...... I hope the Spurs stay away from Paul Pierce for this same reason.


Also:I can't help but wonder about the McGrady curse. It was in the back of my mind the entire finals. What if Ray Allen had not had the ball fall into his hands in the corner at the end of game 6? Tmac's karma might have spilled onto the court at the worst time.

Also, Also:What is Jose Barea's contract status? I would love to see him in black on the offensive end at least.

Dimitris Diamantidis would be a capable back up to Tony. He's still playing at a high level and pretty affordable these days. I'd suggest fellow greek countryman ioannis bourousis as well at the 5. Boris Diaw would just need to lose some weight and possibly sign & trade Splitter for a good wing.

UDRIH14 wrote:

John Thomas wrote:how much capspace do you guys have again? close to 8mil?

17-20m if they dont resign supergary, turnoboli, splitter, blair, tmac

i throw in parker as trade bait if the spurs are clearly rebuilding for the future around KL, with duncan as defensive anchor we can still be a playoff contender....just need to get rid of the mentally weak ass players on the team...

spurs either bring everyone back except for a few players would be nice

i want tmac to return on the spurs

duncan/baynes
diaw/bonner
KL/tmac
green/colo
parker/cojo/mills

17m to spend and 2 draft picks...
ginoboli anything above MLE is overpaying for his turnovers
dont know about bringing supergary back, dude is hopeless on defense and forcing him to be a pg was stupid
money left behind go chase some young stud like cousin, aljeff, brewer
could get rid of cojo, mills and sign a vet PG, maybe beno to vet....

We just dominated the western conference and took the Heat to 7 games in the finals. You don't dismantle a team that's had that kind of success.

The only way I see us being players in free agency or in the trade market is if another team makes Splitter a ridiculous offer.

Celtics fan here... I'm calling it Josh Smith is in black next year!! If not Boston of course.

He's a very flawed player, but still very talented. Sign him toa contract starting around 11-12mil. He's not gonna get a max deal so he might as well that 12mil from SAS instead of 14mil from Det. He can be a good #2 option behind tony. Plus he'd help out timmy so much in every way it's not even funny.

Anyways signed Manu with the full MLE since you got the whole 5mil. Joseph looks like a real piece. Resign Neal for what 3mil? You know how the rotations work. Green leonard Smith even Diaw all possible at the 3 spot. Then draft a ready defensive big, (Dieng or Withey) & call it a day no? Some one will throw 6mil at Tiago, let him go.

Parker-Joseph-Colo
Green-Ginobili-Mills
Leonard-Neal-Tmac
Smith-Diaw-Bonner
Duncan-Dieng-Vet?

Adding a 18 & 7 guy next to Timmy will work wonders. Spots 2-4 super atheltic & can all do multiple things. Havta realize Smith shot 47% on fg's last year as teams primary #1 option. He'd be way more effcient & effective in a great system like SAS.