Will Dedmon stay next year ???

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Will Dedmon stay next year ??? 

Post#1 » by duncan21 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:03 pm

Spurs shouldn't let him go,I'd prefer lost Patty than Dedmon,It's difficult to find another Big Man to replace him :banghead:
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Post#2 » by Phreak50 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:40 am

If we fail in the playoffs, Aldridge might be on his way and that'll potentially give us more cap room for Dedmon.

At the same time, I don't want to overpay him either.
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Post#3 » by duncan21 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:49 am

Phreak50 wrote:If we fail in the playoffs, Aldridge might be on his way and that'll potentially give us more cap room for Dedmon.

At the same time, I don't want to overpay him either.

4 year deal is possible,he has talent to become poor man David
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Post#4 » by Cycloneon » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:54 pm

I believe he has a player option. He deserves more money but I hope he picks up the option so other teams don't exaggerate and offer him something he can't pass up(selfish, i know haha). Both he and Simmons deserve a nice payday.
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Post#5 » by Statlanta » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:22 pm

The better the season he has playing on a contender, the more likely he gets a Biyombo-like contract. Any player on a post-Dwight Magic bench would be given not much more than a min contract.
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Post#6 » by duncan21 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:37 am

OrlandoTill wrote:The better the season he has playing on a contender, the more likely he gets a Biyombo-like contract. Any player on a post-Dwight Magic bench would be given not much more than a min contract.

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Post#7 » by UDRIH14 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:10 pm

dedmon gets something like boban receive...spurs will let him go...

the deadweight on the spurs lma, parker, gino needs to go and make way for the youth to come through...i think without them 3, spurs are still good against most of the league...in kawhi i trust...

as for kyle, he gets alot of hate, but from the defensive end i like what he brings to the table, just that his to passive on offense....
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Post#8 » by inDe_eD » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:59 pm

I would be perfectly fine with giving Dedmon a Danny Green-like contract of 4/40. He's the best big on the team and he fits nicely with Kawhi's timeline. We'll probably lose either Patty or Simmons, but I'm much more ok with that now than I thought I'd be, after watching us turn the scrapheap into gold this offseason.
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Post#9 » by duncan21 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:04 pm

UDRIH14 wrote:dedmon gets something like boban receive...spurs will let him go...

the deadweight on the spurs lma, parker, gino needs to go and make way for the youth to come through...i think without them 3, spurs are still good against most of the league...in kawhi i trust...

as for kyle, he gets alot of hate, but from the defensive end i like what he brings to the table, just that his to passive on offense....

LOL,You still throught someone could replace Dedmon's impact of Defence end & broad ???? Are u kidding me ??
He is a rare rim protecter wo also gd at defend pick &roll and stay in front small player,plus he has a very soft touch around the tim,Spurs will be stipid if let him go ...........he is a must sign in this off season before Mills & Simmons..........Resign

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Post#10 » by AdagioPace » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:53 pm

4/40-42 seems like a rewarding and convincing deal. I believe he knows he cannot receive the same support anywhere else in terms of "basketball education". If he wants to grow and establish himself as a good to great player in the NBA Spurs is the team to pick.
We cannot pretend the "family" argument to also work with Dedmon...yet :D

I think even PATFO aknowledge that Dedmon is the priority. He provides something that's rare to find and usually the cornerstone of a team's defense (rim protection).. with all due respect to Simmons and Mills.

Of course he has to prove he's grown and can manage to play 30 minutes every day without too many mistakes.
If he becomes a starter Popovich might even think about raising the offer.

I don't know what is the best offer the Spurs can make. It all comes down to how much PATFO value him
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Post#11 » by duncan21 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:56 am

AdagioPace wrote:4/40-42 seems like a rewarding and convincing deal. I believe he knows he cannot receive the same support anywhere else in terms of "basketball education". If he wants to grow and establish himself as a good to great player in the NBA Spurs is the team to pick.
We cannot pretend the "family" argument to also work with Dedmon...yet :D

I think even PATFO aknowledge that Dedmon is the priority. He provides something that's rare to find and usually the cornerstone of a team's defense (rim protection).. with all due respect to Simmons and Mills.

Of course he has to prove he's grown and can manage to play 30 minutes every day without too many mistakes.
If he becomes a starter Popovich might even think about raising the offer.

I don't know what is the best offer the Spurs can make. It all comes down to how much PATFO value him

Piston might give him 15 or more million in the off Season,u can let Mills go,but you can't let Dedmon,Dedmon's defensive potential and athectism is rare,not to mention he got a pretty gd soft touch around the rim,he also a quick learner like Kawhi,Plus we are easier to find a replacemment for Mills than Dedmon,Mills problem is he doesn't hv any Playmarking skills,he will not be our long term plan on PG spots,he doesn't hv stater potential,if he will stay will limit Murray's developement.....................
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Re: Will Dedmon stay next year ??? 

Post#12 » by Chinook » Sat Mar 4, 2017 3:50 pm

They pretty much have the full MLE, which is like $36M/4. I think that's good enough to keep him if he wants to stay, but not if he really just wants the most money. I don't know enough about his character to know which would be most important to him. But giving him appreciably more would require letting the FAs go and/or trading away rotation guys. Like do you trade Danny, move Simmons into the SL, keep Mills and use the extra $2 Million or so in cap to give Dedmon a $47M/4 deal? Do you let Patty walk and give him Bismack money?

Personally, I don't like any contract above the MLE. Dedmon will be 28 next year, and while he's obviously a late-bloomer, his athleticism is why he's so good on defense. A four-year deal will probably take up his entire prime and maybe the first year of his physical decline. Without knowing how good he can truly be, I'd consider him more complimentary than essential.
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Post#13 » by Ballings7 » Sat Mar 4, 2017 4:17 pm

Phreak50 wrote:If we fail in the playoffs, Aldridge might be on his way and that'll potentially give us more cap room for Dedmon.

At the same time, I don't want to overpay him either.


I agree with this. Dedmon's rolling on offense, overall defense, balanced of maturity and short time playing the game, makes him valuable more long-term.

If we have to choose between the two, it should be Dedmon. This team hasn't had anyone like him since Elson in terms of overall agility and speed rolling to the rim, running the floor (but stronger), and overall, not since 2003 D-Rob in terms of good defense, rebounding, finishing.

He's the main reason why the defense has been better since Gasol went out. Glad Pop saw the light, even if it had to be by force.

One of Gasol/Aldridge/Dedmon will likely be gone this summer, and I'd prefer it to be Gasol. I actually like Aldridge a lot with Dedmon, they complement each other well.
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Post#14 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Mar 5, 2017 1:41 pm

I think it's going to cost 4/40 to keep him at a minimum. Not many teams have cap space, so the going rate is lower. Also need to see what the Spurs do in the draft, with their picks (29, 59). Is Milutinov coming over this year?

Dedmon has been a journeyman before this season. The realist in me says his agent tells him to take the biggest offer he can find, but the basketball person in me thinks his agent will recommend staying with the Spurs because he has had the best season of his career by far and he can actually be their long-term starting center. Even though he's 27, he just doesn't have the mileage a lot of other bigs his age typically have. Dedmon probably has another 5-8 years of NBA ball in him.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Dewayne, but he absolutely SHOULD NOT opt-in. Gotta get paid.
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Post#15 » by Nolan » Mon Mar 6, 2017 5:53 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:I think it's going to cost 4/40 to keep him at a minimum. Not many teams have cap space, so the going rate is lower. Also need to see what the Spurs do in the draft, with their picks (29, 59). Is Milutinov coming over this year?

Dedmon has been a journeyman before this season. The realist in me says his agent tells him to take the biggest offer he can find, but the basketball person in me thinks his agent will recommend staying with the Spurs because he has had the best season of his career by far and he can actually be their long-term starting center. Even though he's 27, he just doesn't have the mileage a lot of other bigs his age typically have. Dedmon probably has another 5-8 years of NBA ball in him.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Dewayne, but he absolutely SHOULD NOT opt-in. Gotta get paid.


He's gotta get that paycheck and we've got to be the ones to give it too him. 4/40 would be an amazing deal I'd even be will to go as high as 4/50 to keep him in the fold. Even if Milutinov does come over this summer we're still gonna need Dedmon in the fold, Pau isn't get any younger.

In the summer I think we're going to have to make a couple tough choices. We can't afford to keep all 3 of Patty, Simmons and Dedmon. Hopefully we can retain at least two of them but that may be tough as well. I'd like to see us keep Patty and Dedmon but the realist in me doesn't see that happening unless one of or both of them take home town discounts.
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Post#16 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Mar 6, 2017 7:20 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:I think it's going to cost 4/40 to keep him at a minimum. Not many teams have cap space, so the going rate is lower. Also need to see what the Spurs do in the draft, with their picks (29, 59). Is Milutinov coming over this year?

Dedmon has been a journeyman before this season. The realist in me says his agent tells him to take the biggest offer he can find, but the basketball person in me thinks his agent will recommend staying with the Spurs because he has had the best season of his career by far and he can actually be their long-term starting center. Even though he's 27, he just doesn't have the mileage a lot of other bigs his age typically have. Dedmon probably has another 5-8 years of NBA ball in him.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Dewayne, but he absolutely SHOULD NOT opt-in. Gotta get paid.


He's gotta get that paycheck and we've got to be the ones to give it too him. 4/40 would be an amazing deal I'd even be will to go as high as 4/50 to keep him in the fold. Even if Milutinov does come over this summer we're still gonna need Dedmon in the fold, Pau isn't get any younger.

In the summer I think we're going to have to make a couple tough choices. We can't afford to keep all 3 of Patty, Simmons and Dedmon. Hopefully we can retain at least two of them but that may be tough as well. I'd like to see us keep Patty and Dedmon but the realist in me doesn't see that happening unless one of or both of them take home town discounts.


I think Dedmon is going to be retained, but I do not believe Mills will be. Simmons is 50/50.
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Re: Will Dedmon stay next year ??? 

Post#17 » by Nolan » Mon Mar 6, 2017 9:22 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:
I think Dedmon is going to be retained, but I do not believe Mills will be. Simmons is 50/50.


Simmons is gonna be interesting. I agree with the 50/50 odds simply because he's restricted, but I could see a team like Brooklyn or Philly sighing him to a big offer as well.
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Post#18 » by alexb618 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:22 am

my guess: dedmon and simmons to stay, mills probably will leave.
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Post#19 » by jptremblay » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:10 pm

Ginobili is 95% retired after this year, so without his 14 million check gone I thought that we could at least retain 2 of 3 without much effort.
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Post#20 » by -Sammy- » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:55 pm

Dedmon deserves a nice payday, but somebody's going to try to radically overpay for him, so it's going to come down to whether he'd rather be in this culture or get that money. Which would you do?
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