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SPURS SHOULD TRADE THIS ASS IN OFF SEASON,I AM TIRED WITH HIS BRICK SHOTS & TURNOVERS,THE MOST IMPORTANT IS HIS D HAS BEEN GONE
NO 3 NO D ??? CAN'T DRIBBLE,CAN'T FINNISH A LAYUP

many of us on this forum have been saying this for most of the season, it goes on for a couple of months then he has 2 or 3 good games and the discussion goes quiet again.

imo unless he is personally responsible for some incredible performance in this series against houston, he is gone in the off season. i dont know what we would get for him, maybe a 2nd round pick if we are lucky.

alexb618 wrote:many of us on this forum have been saying this for most of the season, it goes on for a couple of months then he has 2 or 3 good games and the discussion goes quiet again.

imo unless he is personally responsible for some incredible performance in this series against houston, he is gone in the off season. i dont know what we would get for him, maybe a 2nd round pick if we are lucky.

ONLY COST A 2ND PICK @@

He isn't what he used to be but he's still a valuable player. He's an elite level defender and in my opinion he's the best transition defender in the league. I don't really see any reason to deal him, his contract to is more than fair.

Nolan wrote:He isn't what he used to be but he's still a valuable player. He's an elite level defender and in my opinion he's the best transition defender in the league. I don't really see any reason to deal him, his contract to is more than fair.

Seconded. He's not the problem.

While the amount of BWC going on is an overreaction to one game. (Where was this when we beat the Grizz in rd 1?) Our expected ceiling is the WCF this year (and will be until we add another MVP candidate or GSW breaks up), we'll see if we make it.

For the contract he's on - $10 M/yr - he's ok. This year WP48 0.141 (0.1 being an average player), 38.1 3FG% (league average for a wing being 35.9), and he's good defensively ( although with the ways refs are calling things, everyone gets roasted these day, it's just a matter of how badly...)

We'll see if Aldridge (our "2nd option" and highest paid guy at $21.5 Million) can pull his head out of his *** .

pad300 wrote:

Nolan wrote:He isn't what he used to be but he's still a valuable player. He's an elite level defender and in my opinion he's the best transition defender in the league. I don't really see any reason to deal him, his contract to is more than fair.

Seconded. He's not the problem.

While the amount of BWC going on is an overreaction to one game. (Where was this when we beat the Grizz in rd 1?) Our expected ceiling is the WCF this year (and will be until we add another MVP candidate or GSW breaks up), we'll see if we make it.

For the contract he's on - $10 M/yr - he's ok. This year WP48 0.141 (0.1 being an average player), 38.1 3FG% (league average for a wing being 35.9), and he's good defensively ( although with the ways refs are calling things, everyone gets roasted these day, it's just a matter of how badly...)

We'll see if Aldridge (our "2nd option" and highest paid guy at $21.5 Million) can pull his head out of his *** .

Totally agree my friend. If we're going to be hating on someone it should be Aldridge. Sure Green's limited but he's only a role player and he's a very good role player.

What do you guys think about signing Teague as sort of a younger Tony Parker and dumping Parker somewhere else?

Froob wrote:What do you guys think about signing Teague as sort of a younger Tony Parker and dumping Parker somewhere else?

A Teague for Parker switch would be an upgrade, particularly during the slog of the regular season, but I don't think it's enough to have a realistic shot at a title. For that, we would need to add another superstar - eg. CP3... Getting Teague in Parker's contract space would interfere with a shot at a big FA in 2018 (when Parker and Gasol's contracts drop off the books, as well a Danny and Lamarcus have player options...). Teague doesn't move the needle enough so I wouldn't go for it.

Froob wrote:What do you guys think about signing Teague as sort of a younger Tony Parker and dumping Parker somewhere else?

It's not gonna happen. Parker's not going anywhere.

Nolan wrote:

Froob wrote:What do you guys think about signing Teague as sort of a younger Tony Parker and dumping Parker somewhere else?

It's not gonna happen. Parker's not going anywhere.

I don't think you can re sign him beyond his last year at least. Tough to push a franchise great out the door but as Danny Ainge proved it's the right move. I could just see Teague as a great fit and wouldn't be surprised if he isn't big on Indy.

Froob wrote:I don't think you can re sign him beyond his last year at least. Tough to push a franchise great out the door but as Danny Ainge proved it's the right move. I could just see Teague as a great fit and wouldn't be surprised if he isn't big on Indy.

Why not?

And Teague wouldn't be that great of a fit. We need defenders and shooters around Kawhi and Teague is neither of those things. I'd rather roll with Tony, Murray and Mills if we can resign him.

Nolan wrote:

Froob wrote:I don't think you can re sign him beyond his last year at least. Tough to push a franchise great out the door but as Danny Ainge proved it's the right move. I could just see Teague as a great fit and wouldn't be surprised if he isn't big on Indy.

Why not?

And Teague wouldn't be that great of a fit. We need defenders and shooters around Kawhi and Teague is neither of those things. I'd rather roll with Tony, Murray and Mills if we can resign him.

Sorry to see him go down, that sucks. Had a good start to the playoffs but seems to struggle against top competition in the playoffs. I'd concerned about re signing a 36 year old Parker to big money. Spurs gotta find another star. Maybe it'll be another home grown guy like Murray. Only OKC (and GS too I suppose) could argue they draft as well as the Spurs.

Froob wrote:

Nolan wrote:

Froob wrote:I don't think you can re sign him beyond his last year at least. Tough to push a franchise great out the door but as Danny Ainge proved it's the right move. I could just see Teague as a great fit and wouldn't be surprised if he isn't big on Indy.

Why not?

And Teague wouldn't be that great of a fit. We need defenders and shooters around Kawhi and Teague is neither of those things. I'd rather roll with Tony, Murray and Mills if we can resign him.

Sorry to see him go down, that sucks. Had a good start to the playoffs but seems to struggle against top competition in the playoffs. I'd concerned about re signing a 36 year old Parker to big money. Spurs gotta find another star. Maybe it'll be another home grown guy like Murray. Only OKC (and GS too I suppose) could argue they draft as well as the Spurs.

I doubt Tony will demand big money again, both Manu and TD took discounts to help the team improve so I wouldn't be shocked if Tony does the same. It's way too early to jump the gun and trade him for a stop gag especially with Murray poised to take on a bigger role next year.

Our best path forward at PG is to try and resign Patty and give Murray more minutes.

Nolan wrote:

Froob wrote:

Nolan wrote:
Why not?

And Teague wouldn't be that great of a fit. We need defenders and shooters around Kawhi and Teague is neither of those things. I'd rather roll with Tony, Murray and Mills if we can resign him.

Sorry to see him go down, that sucks. Had a good start to the playoffs but seems to struggle against top competition in the playoffs. I'd concerned about re signing a 36 year old Parker to big money. Spurs gotta find another star. Maybe it'll be another home grown guy like Murray. Only OKC (and GS too I suppose) could argue they draft as well as the Spurs.

I doubt Tony will demand big money again, both Manu and TD took discounts to help the team improve so I wouldn't be shocked if Tony does the same. It's way too early to jump the gun and trade him for a stop gag especially with Murray poised to take on a bigger role next year.

Our best path forward at PG is to try and resign Patty and give Murray more minutes.

Any idea on what player Murray compares to? Does he have star potential?

Froob wrote:Any idea on what player Murray compares to? Does he have star potential?

Crawford is the comp that gets throw around all the time and I see it at times.

Don't know if he has star potential, but he's something unique. He's got an excellent array of floaters and he can get to the rim at will (kids crazy shifty with the ball), he's turnover prone but has vision and makes some pretty amazing passes, he rebounds well for someone so skinny and he's shown some flashes on the defensive end (he's quick, scrappy and doesn't quit).

He needs to work on his jumper (if he can knock down three's consistently look out), get a bit stronger and just get some more experience.