Spurs Trade Options for the 2024/25 trade window

[Rustyman]

I've decided to put this here rather than the Trades & Transactions board as I am interested in realistic trade options for the Spurs this trade window.

Blockbuster Trades:

Jimmy Butler to SAS. Devin Vassell, Zach Collins + CHA 2025 1st to MIA
Why for SAS - SAS need a reliable scoring threat at the SF/SG. Jimmy is that even if he only plays 65 games. This is a rental
Why for MIA - They need to rebuild and getting a cost controlled high potential SG + shooting C to give a different look from Bam. Also a little bit of cap relief.
Downside for SAS - Jimmy becomes disgruntled OR ops into his player option for 2025/26. Vassell blooms in MIA
Downside for MIA - Vassell never becomes more than an OK starter and they cannot flip Collins.
Chances of happening - 10%

Zion to SAS, Zach Collins, Keldon, CHA 2025 1st, SAS 2026 1st (unprotected).
Why for SAS - Take a flyer on a high potential player who may flourish in different surroundings
Why for NOP - Get rid of the Zion problem, get some usable players to rebuild, get 2 1st round picks for a distressed asset.
Downside for SAS - Zion may just remain Zion and they can cut him if he doesn't reform
Downside for NOP - Collins and Keldon remain average, the CHA pick resolves to 2 seconds and the SAS pick falls outside the lottery.
Chances of happening - 5%

[Rustyman]

I decided to post it on the Trades and Transactions board as well just to see if I get different reactions.

[Rustyman]

Brandon Ingram for Keldon & Collins

Just on salaries, this trade will work but there are a number of reasons I don't think is an option.

For the Spurs, Brandon Ingram is a scorer which is the Spurs immediate need. I don't care if he isn't a high level 3 point shooter as if he can score 20 points a game, he will address the Spurs biggest problem, which is scoring droughts from anyone other than Wemby.

Why not for the Spurs. Ingram wants a max contract extension. There is zero chance that the Spurs would offer him yet. Also, he is a Klutch client. Spurs are very wary of Klutch, especially with their last engagement on the Dejounte Murry contract extension and trade.

There is a very low chance of this trade happening unless NOP is prepared to accept a reasonable offer for Ingram.

[mikejames23]

Brandon Ingram is a good number 2, obviously would like to have him here.

Paul - Castle - Barnes - Ingram - Wemby

Something like that can run us into the playoffs. Ingram would cost us a draft pick, Sochan or Vassell, most likely.

Jimmy is old, and Zion's asking price will be too high. There's also Dejounte, but I doubt we want him back.

[Rustyman]

Cam Thomas for Malachi Branham, CHA 2025 1st protected 1-14, 2025 CHI 2nd rounder, 2026 PHI 2nd rounder.

Basically a scorer on his last rookie year versus a potential scorer, and a 1st and 2 seconds, or in worse case 4 2nd rounders.

I think this may be a bit light on for Cam Thomas but I don't know what would make this more even.

[imagump1313]

Butler is too old.(I was huge on getting Butler here before he went to Miami)
Ingram would be awesome but not if he's with Clutch.
I cant imagine anyone giving up anything of value for Branham.

Can we trade Champaigne for anything? I would take a half eaten doughnut and a kick in the nuts in exchange.....

[Rustyman]

Zach Collins + CHA 2025 (1-14 protected) for Robert Williams III

Injury prone centers for each other however, Robert Williams is more of a bruiser and Zach is more of a shooter which fits in better with both team's profile. POR have their bruiser in Clingen, SAS have to protect against Bassey leaving at the end of the year. POR gets a low chance of a 1st rounder or 2 seconds from Charlotte to make up for the pay disparity.

[imagump1313]

Zach Collins + CHA 2025 (1-14 protected) for Robert Williams III

Injury prone centers for each other however, Robert Williams is more of a bruiser and Zach is more of a shooter which fits in better with both team's profile. POR have their bruiser in Clingen, SAS have to protect against Bassey leaving at the end of the year. POR gets a low chance of a 1st rounder or 2 seconds from Charlotte to make up for the pay disparity.

Hmm...not a fan of this one. We would just be making a trade to make a trade. If we are giving up a first round pick I would expect to get better.

I appreciate the effort and it is realistic though.

[G R E Y]

Cam Thomas for Malachi Branham, CHA 2025 1st protected 1-14, 2025 CHI 2nd rounder, 2026 PHI 2nd rounder.

Basically a scorer on his last rookie year versus a potential scorer, and a 1st and 2 seconds, or in worse case 4 2nd rounders.

I think this may be a bit light on for Cam Thomas but I don't know what would make this more even.

This one seems like the best of the lot so far.

Zion is a star whose fade is fast approaching.

Ingram needs a team that can pay him what he wants, is injured, and is now with Klutch.

Butler, so old that his game is not worth his attitude. We don't need an ass kicker with CP3 around and Pop returning.

That price may not be enough for Thomas though. Nets have a smart GM so we can't really sell a fugazi as a diamond in the rough. It would take more picks and better talent, so as always just depends on the cost.

[G R E Y]

A position of clear need is back up C.

I appreciate what CBass has done in his return, and I think Mamu is more of a 4 with some 5 in him and I like what each brings, but we really need a proper screen crushing and rim rocking/defending dependable lunch pail back up C.

RWIII is oft injured and honestly I've forgotten about bout his game.

Have to think about who, but a BIG big, not undersized, and smart who plays within himself. Someone like the healthy younger version of Steven Adams...

[Rustyman]

Brandon Ingram is a good number 2, obviously would like to have him here.

Paul - Castle - Barnes - Ingram - Wemby

Something like that can run us into the playoffs. Ingram would cost us a draft pick, Sochan or Vassell, most likely.

Jimmy is old, and Zion's asking price will be too high. There's also Dejounte, but I doubt we want him back.

I agree Ingram is a good option but I question whether the history between Klutch and the Spurs will prevent this happening. If Brandon is prepared to extend in the $30-$35m range then I think a deal is doable but I just doubt whether Ingram would be prepared to accept that.

[G R E Y]

p.s. Hey what about Jonas Valanciunas?

Current deal: Valanciunas is in Year 1 of a three-year, $30.3 million contract. His cap hit this season is $9.9 million and the last season of the deal is non-guaranteed.

Washington now also has a tradable contract that it can move after Dec. 15 for draft considerations. Valanciunas is averaging a career-low 20 minutes per game but still is averaging 12 points and 7.8 rebounds.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/42878124/nba-trade-deadline-2025-10-players-watch-feb-6

[Rustyman]

Cam Thomas for Malachi Branham, CHA 2025 1st protected 1-14, 2025 CHI 2nd rounder, 2026 PHI 2nd rounder.

Basically a scorer on his last rookie year versus a potential scorer, and a 1st and 2 seconds, or in worse case 4 2nd rounders.

I think this may be a bit light on for Cam Thomas but I don't know what would make this more even.

This one seems like the best of the lot so far.

Zion is a star whose fade is fast approaching.

Ingram needs a team that can pay him what he wants, is injured, and is now with Klutch.

Butler, so old that his game is not worth his attitude. We don't need an ass kicker with CP3 around and Pop returning.

That price may not be enough for Thomas though. Nets have a smart GM so we can't really sell a fugazi as a diamond in the rough. It would take more picks and better talent, so as always just depends on the cost.

Yeah, thought that looked a bit light for Cam Thomas but the SAS or ATL picks in 2025 are probably a bit rich unless they fall out of the lottery.

[Rustyman]

A position of clear need is back up C.

I appreciate what CBass has done in his return, and I think Mamu is more of a 4 with some 5 in him and I like what each brings, but we really need a proper screen crushing and rim rocking/defending dependable lunch pail back up C.

RWIII is oft injured and honestly I've forgotten about bout his game.

Have to think about who, but a BIG big, not undersized, and smart who plays within himself. Someone like the healthy younger version of Steven Adams...

I would bite at a bargain priced Steve Adams.

[Rustyman]

p.s. Hey what about Jonas Valanciunas?

Current deal: Valanciunas is in Year 1 of a three-year, $30.3 million contract. His cap hit this season is $9.9 million and the last season of the deal is non-guaranteed.

Washington now also has a tradable contract that it can move after Dec. 15 for draft considerations. Valanciunas is averaging a career-low 20 minutes per game but still is averaging 12 points and 7.8 rebounds.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/42878124/nba-trade-deadline-2025-10-players-watch-feb-6

I would LOVE Jonas but what could we offer the Wizards in return. They are looking for a 1st rounder for him from someone like the Lakers.

[G R E Y]

p.s. Hey what about Jonas Valanciunas?

Current deal: Valanciunas is in Year 1 of a three-year, $30.3 million contract. His cap hit this season is $9.9 million and the last season of the deal is non-guaranteed.

Washington now also has a tradable contract that it can move after Dec. 15 for draft considerations. Valanciunas is averaging a career-low 20 minutes per game but still is averaging 12 points and 7.8 rebounds.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/42878124/nba-trade-deadline-2025-10-players-watch-feb-6

I would LOVE Jonas but what could we offer the Wizards in return. They are looking for a 1st rounder for him from someone like the Lakers.

First, I can't believe Collins makes more than Val per year but that's beating a dead horse.

We could offer Branham on a rookie contract, and another money throw in and something from our thick stockpile of picks that not unprotected like the CHA or CHI pick. Sweeten it with some seconds... Have to go on trade checker...

[Rustyman]

My no.1 target on the Wizards would be Coulibaly, not because he is French but simply because he fits exactly what we need from a SF. However, there is no option we get him unless we luck out in the lottery and the Wizards want a player in that slot.

[G R E Y]

Ok I just tried this unrealistic trade and it works:

Collins and Branham for Val, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Baldwin Jr., and just to **** with gump, Justin Champagnie

It's obvious why we do it and the cost is reasonable. Sweeten the deal with some picks.

Not obvious why Washington does it other than to somehow get worse, make room on their roster, get a player on a rookie contract who could shoot to his heart's content, and give Collins Val's 20mpg. Plus picks.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8819335

[G R E Y]

My no.1 target on the Wizards would be Coulibaly, not because he is French but simply because he fits exactly what we need from a SF. However, there is no option we get him unless we luck out in the lottery and the Wizards want a player in that slot.

Yeah Wemby said he'd become a special player and it's looking like that wasn't just a teammate hype up. He's going to be special and there's no way we pry him away as he's a building block unless we severely overpay.

We really do need to get a quality long term starting SF, so I agree with the target archetype.

[Rustyman]

Ok I just tried this unrealistic trade and it works:

Collins and Branham for Val, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Baldwin Jr., and just to **** with gump, Justin Champagnie

It's obvious why we do it and the cost is reasonable. Sweeten the deal with some picks.

Not obvious why Washington does it other than to somehow get worse, make room on their roster, get a player on a rookie contract who could shoot to his heart's content, and give Collins Val's 20mpg. Plus picks.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8819335

Trade is possible but the Spurs would have to waive a couple of players. Washington would definitely want a protected 1st and some seconds to sweeten the pot.