OT- Gasol to LA

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Post#1 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:12 pm

The Memphis Grizzlies will send Pau Gasol and a future second-round pick to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, the unofficially retired Aaron McKie , the draft rights to Pau Gasol's brother Marc and future first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein.


Jeez... what a steal for the Lakers...

The Commercial Appeal also reported that the Grizzlies are trading Stromile Swift to the New Jersey Nets for center Jason Collins. The Grizzlies and Nets have been discussing that deal for the past week and expect to finalize it on Monday, according to the report.


Honestly... what the **** is Memphis doing?

Collins is a whole bag of worthless crap and they just traded their best player for some 19 year old quasi point guard and two picks in the late 20's
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Post#2 » by Ballings7 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:37 pm

Woah, so it finally happens

Gigantic addition for the Lake Show - Bynum and Gasol and Odom up front with Kobe? That's an incredible core, plus the role-players in Fisher, Ariza, Farmar, Walton, Turiaf, Mihm, Radmanovic.

The West just got even tougher! The Lakers offense and defense just got worlds better. Gasol's an underrated defensive player, and with Turiaf/Bynum/Mihm/Odom/Ariza helping him up front, it'll only be easier on him.

They have so much size and athleticism up front now, it's ridiculous. They were big and athletic before, but now? Insane.

Gasol's unproven in the playoffs, but, that's because he hasn't had good enough teams combined with tough match-ups. That'll change.

Lakers are going deep in the playoffs (most likely). Still going to have to establish themselves as an elite team in the playoffs and in the following season (unless they make the finals), but obviously Gasol only helps that a lot.

Going to be very fun now.

Oh, and bring them on if it goes like that. :)
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Post#3 » by ss1986v2 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:10 pm

barry+elson+1st for mike miller

get it done rc...
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Post#4 » by Magz50 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:12 pm

Well damn while the Grizz are having a fire sale we might as well steal some of their other players for nothing. Hey Jerry how about Oberto, Barry and a bag of chips for Gay and Miller? Good deal? Well get it done!
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Post#5 » by Ballings7 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:37 pm

I wouldn't mind Miller at all to replace Barry. He's a better Brent Barry.

Barry + a R1 pick for Miller? Do it.

Memphis just wants the expiring and R1 pick, Brent can come back as late as possible for them.
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Post#6 » by Magz50 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:43 pm

Haha you know what i'm thinking since every other former employee is helping out their original teams we might as well do it too. Get RC on the phone to Sam presti and tell him to give us Durant for some scrubs and picks. I'm sure with all the dodginess of Celtics and Lakers doing insider crap we can get away with it too.
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Post#7 » by Adde91202 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:55 am

Damn looks like the West got a lot harder, if we don't pull out anything before the deadline, i don't think we can make the finals with this roster..

Mike miller would be the PERFECT fit on this team, as well as Artest. Somehow, i know it's possible, lets just pray!
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Post#8 » by UDRIH14 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:43 am

so they be rebuilding through the draft...

wats there capspace now? dont tell me they are going to throw it at deng and gordan, cause that be a waste
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Post#9 » by wizardg » Sat Feb 2, 2008 5:03 am

I'm sick...
This trade is rediculous. I guess there have been worse trades but its hard to think of any right now. The ones I can think of like Baron Davis to GState for speedy and dale davis and a six pack ... was acceptible because it didn't change the balance of power in the league. .

This is gift wrapping the title to the Lakers if Bynum comes back okay. Pau is probably a top 4-7 offensive player in the paint. Giving him to the Lakers for nothing makes me sick.

I feel like my intelligence has been insulted by the NBA. The only sense this trade makes is to make the Lakers champs again. There is nothing in it for Memohis ... I'm sure they could have gotten more for PG on the open market.

If I were a Lakers fan I'd love it.
Since I'm not I think this trade needs to be blocked. The same way Bowie Kuhn blocked the Charly Finley liquidation sales of the 70s. Not just this trade but everything Memphis is doing. Stro, Stuadimire, Gasol,

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Post#10 » by UDRIH14 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 5:26 am

if kwame brown gets bought out

we should make a deal for him

we still have the MLE left i believe, use it

at least his better than elson and oberto << these 2 cant defend for crap...

ps. when are the spurs moles going to make trades with us....they know who they are, just dont make it look suspicious
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Post#11 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:32 am

I don't think the Lakers are the favorite for the title, over everybody else out of a sudden. That's overreacting some.

Obviously move into the group of top title contenders, though. Before being a darkhorse title contender at most.

If Kwame Brown is waived, we should consider signing him, though.
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Post#12 » by tuncaboylu » Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:42 am

Ballings7 wrote:I don't think the Lakers are the favorite for the title, over everybody else out of a sudden. That's overreacting some.

Obviously move into the group of top title contenders, though. Before being a darkhorse title contender at most.

If Kwame Brown is waived, we should sign him, though.


I really don't think that we will need Kwame Brown. He's no better than Oberto and Elson.
But Boston and Phoenix may run after him, if he gets the buyout.
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Post#13 » by lukeridenour » Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:45 am

kwame plays td well sometimes, now they dont have that. im fine with this trade, bring them on.
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Post#14 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 9:21 am

tuncaboylu wrote:I really don't think that we will need Kwame Brown. He's no better than Oberto and Elson.
But Boston and Phoenix may run after him, if he gets the buyout.


Well, just as a different type of defensive center to have, I'd welcome the addition. He has significant mobility and good size. Just isn't as effective offensively as either Oberto/Elson.

Phoenix? I'd be surprised honestly. Despite them needing size and defense, his lack of offensive ability I think is too much for D'Antoni and the Suns system, to get consistent minutes. Also, would he even play down the stretch? No.

Skinner gets regular time, but he is better offensively than Kwame, and also doesn't play late in games.

Partially why the Suns aren't committed enough to getting bigger and more balanced. Having one big man who defends, isn't going to get it done. It never has ever. Let alone not playing them later in games, when defense is most needed. Then taking into account the depth issues you will run into with this approach. Even Kurt Thomas in his 2nd year, I think got inconsistent minutes down the stretch.

Then relying on Skinner for your lone consistent big man defense, who isn't a top helper big man. He's a #2/#3 guy depending who else is on the team. Kurt Thomas is the former, but, defending at the basket isn't a strength of his defensively. Altering, blocking shots. Because of that Kurt's best fit next to a two-way big man, as he was with Mourning and Ewing. The overall defensive ability of Zo/Ewing, complemented Kurt's lesser area as a defender.

Amare's not a two-way big man.

Also, who knows how the feelings are now, but D'Antoni talked bad about Kwame in the "7 seconds or less" book by McCallum.

Boston? I definitely could see that. As well as a few other teams.
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Post#15 » by LAKESHOW1 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:15 pm

wizardg wrote:I'm sick...
This trade is rediculous. I guess there have been worse trades but its hard to think of any right now. The ones I can think of like Baron Davis to GState for speedy and dale davis and a six pack ... was acceptible because it didn't change the balance of power in the league. .

This is gift wrapping the title to the Lakers if Bynum comes back okay. Pau is probably a top 4-7 offensive player in the paint. Giving him to the Lakers for nothing makes me sick.

I feel like my intelligence has been insulted by the NBA. The only sense this trade makes is to make the Lakers champs again. There is nothing in it for Memohis ... I'm sure they could have gotten more for PG on the open market.

If I were a Lakers fan I'd love it.
Since I'm not I think this trade needs to be blocked. The same way Bowie Kuhn blocked the Charly Finley liquidation sales of the 70s. Not just this trade but everything Memphis is doing. Stro, Stuadimire, Gasol,

I don't even feel like watching basketball anymore. Its time for me to grow up anyway






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Post#16 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:12 pm

This trade pushed the Lakers in the Elite teams...
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Post#17 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:40 pm

I don't think they're an "elite" team, yet. They have that on paper for sure, but they still have to prove it on the court. At the earliest mid-spring/early summer, and into the next season. They'll have to play very well for me to think of them as elite, other-wise. Going to the WCF or finals would do that.

I think it's a noticably different situation than Boston, too. Even before the season started.
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Post#18 » by b shaw20 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:42 pm

As a Laker fan who is trolling in here to see what kind of reactions our rivals have towards the trade... as much as I dispise the Spurs, I am telling you as stand up man - you don't want Kwame.

You guys haven't watched him play as much as I have over recent years. He is an overrated defendor. What he has in size, he lacks in brains, hands or basketball athletic ability. He sucks, period.

No sooner than his dumb fouls, missed layups, fumbled passes or careless turnovers happen if you do sign him, you guys will be back in here crying that he should be dumped.

Pop's demeanor would tear him a new a** in a heartbeat and Kwame would never recover. Kwame is of weak mind and when he is scolder - he goes deeper into the tank.

God bless KB and his overpaid ass... but he is the definition of a scrub.

The fact that we dumped him was enough for me. Now, getting Pau was icing on the cake.
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Post#19 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:44 pm

Clearly you have not seen Elson play as of late...
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Post#20 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 6:48 pm

Elson hasn't been playing in the role he had before the injury, or last year. Horry getting more minutes and us going small has been the reason. Elson was playing well before his injury, and has more confidence and familarity with the team.

I do know about Kwame's negatives, but still like what he can do positively. So, I wouldn't mind signing him.
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