Trade bait...do we have it?

Blame Rasho · Post #1 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:35 pm

Honestly we don't have any outside the big three in my opinion.

Is there anyone that has more value on another team that we can trade?

Blame Rasho · Post #2 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:40 pm

Brent Barry... Nope.. has min contract.
Matt Bonner... A team like Orlando? but they have too many shooters already.
Bruce Bowen... worth more to us than any other team.
Tim Duncan... LOL... yeah... not going anywhere...
Michael Finley... FA... Sorry... you got to go
Manu Ginobili... Worth more to us than any other team.
Robert Horry... Kevin Willis would be more productive than him nowadays.
DerMarr Johnson... FA... Adios...
Ian Mahinmi... A lot of potential but will not net anything noteworthy. A keeper.
Fabricio Oberto... has his little niche with the team, and can't get anything useful back.
Tony Parker... our only young star.... keeper.
Damon Stoudamire... bye bye mighty mouse...
Kurt Thomas...FA... would want to keep him. Can't sign and trade I believe.
Ime Udoka... good player for his salary but expendable depending on who we draft I believe.
Jacque Vaughn... useless and even worse we need his permission to trade him.. ala George from the Mavs.

LyMinh · Post #3 » by **LyMinh** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:19 pm

I think the answer is no.

Ballings7 · Post #4 » by **Ballings7** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:26 pm

I don't expect any significant trades.

FA and draft are going to be quite valuable for us this off-season in getting younger, more athletic, and some more creative offensively.

ss1986v2 · Post #5 » by **ss1986v2** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:27 pm

think you summed it up pretty well BR. we have the fewest tradable assets of any team in the league. bonner has very slight value. oberto has a bit more. bowen has some value to a contender, but he isnt going anywhere. udoka has a bit of value, but his contract make it very hard to move him for anything of value. and i would not want to move mahinmi unless we were getting a legit starter under the age of 30 (ian would be just one piece of a larger package in that case).

and i know a lot of people here are probably fully into the draft fever, but i would move our first if we could get a proven player out of it. ive talked a bit with portland fan about jarrett jack, who they are very low on right now. i think if we could get jack + #36 for #26 + future 2nd as the principles, id jump at that. i dont think either batum or rush is on the board at 26, im not a huge CDR fan, and while i really like lee, i think jack plus that 2nd is probably better value.

Ballings7 · Post #6 » by **Ballings7** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:41 pm

I dig Jack's game, he'd add some serious ability and size (for a smaller guard) on the bench. Bonus is that he's a good guy.

If Rush or Batum aren't there, I would do that kind of deal proposed.

Moving up with the 36 pick would allow us much better options to get one of those solid big men prospects.

SMRattler · Post #7 » by **SMRattler** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:33 am

That was a very depressing dose of reality.

Ok, no trades. Not the end of the world.

Let's cut the fat, and the old, sign a FA or two, bring on Ian and cross our fingers that our FO can actually draft someone that can do something, anything, right away.

Blame Rasho · Post #8 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:34 am

SMRattler wrote:That was a very depressing dose of reality.

Ok, no trades. Not the end of the world.

Let's cut the fat, and the old, sign a FA or two, bring on Ian and cross our fingers that our FO can actually draft someone that can do something, anything, right away.

Yeah... we can go months before seeing a trade with the Spurs on the trade board.

Blame Rasho · Post #9 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:39 am

and i know a lot of people here are probably fully into the draft fever, but i would move our first if we could get a proven player out of it. ive talked a bit with portland fan about jarrett jack, who they are very low on right now. i think if we could get jack + #36 for #26 + future 2nd as the principles, id jump at that. i dont think either batum or rush is on the board at 26, im not a huge CDR fan, and while i really like lee, i think jack plus that 2nd is probably better value.

I am with you with a trade... but I see Portland wanting less players and picks.

I would perfectly ok with the trade you proposed if Rush or Batum aren't there. I am not a fan of CDR. I have yet to see measurements from Lee.

Stella Artois · Post #10 » by **Stella Artois** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:05 pm

I'm a bit too lazy to look it up but isn't Devin Brown a (restricted ?) free agent ?

Wouldn't mind seeing him back in a Spurs suit.

johnnyjohnnyjohnny · Post #11 » by **johnnyjohnnyjohnny** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:17 pm

I've no interest in picking up another 'piece'. If we cannot get somebody who already is, we need to draft a player with the potential to grow into a legit NBA star.

Role players are great and all, and I'd love to have them but I think this is a deep enough draft where we can certainly fill some of our need areas with legitimate talent.

ss1986v2 · Post #12 » by **ss1986v2** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:24 pm

johnnyjohnnyjohnny wrote:I've no interest in picking up another 'piece'. If we cannot get somebody who already is, we need to draft a player with the potential to grow into a legit NBA star.

Role players are great and all, and I'd love to have them but I think this is a deep enough draft where we can certainly fill some of our need areas with legitimate talent.

i disagree to an extent. there are quite a few players at the bottom of the 1st that have good role player potential, but the only one with any real home run potential is probably walker. and hes got enough red flags to scare off a lot of gms, and rightfully so (attitude, composure, lack of a jump shot, poor defense, no knee). best case scenario with the #26, batum drops and after a couple of years, he develops into a decent athletic wing (think pietrus the year before last).

then again, any one of the players here could be a total bust. if i can get a young role player who i know what im getting from, plus maybe a little incentive (like a top 1/4 2nd rounder), id be all over that.

Blame Rasho · Post #13 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:27 pm

We should have gotten a legit player with the high 2nd last year....

SMRattler · Post #14 » by **SMRattler** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:42 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:We should have gotten a legit player with the high 2nd last year....

Who was taken after him?

johnnyjohnnyjohnny · Post #15 » by **johnnyjohnnyjohnny** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:42 pm

I'm just saying., there's a reason we have nil for trade bait and a nearly shut window for future championships.

SMRattler · Post #16 » by **SMRattler** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:43 pm

^ I mean of significance that could have helped?

Blame Rasho · Post #17 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:47 pm

SMRattler wrote:Who was taken after him?

Glen Davis,Dominic McGuire,Demetris Nichols, Ramon Sessions...

Ballings7 · Post #18 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:29 pm

Any of those guys would of been terrific to have

Nichols isn't that established yet because of difference in oppurtunity, but that guy has game as a big wing-man role-player.

I actually would like us taking a look at Nichols as a 2nd FA wing-man with the mininum or a camp invite. I think he's an ideal fit for this team's system, and can do more than just shoot out to three.

johnnyjohnnyjohnny · Post #19 » by **johnnyjohnnyjohnny** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:35 pm

Hell I wouldn't mind Carl Landry and his funkadelic Free Throw Form From Hell.

ss1986v2 · Post #20 » by **ss1986v2** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:12 pm

hindsight is 20/20. i personally didnt like marcus, but that doesnt make him a horrible pick. not a lot of people have stepped up out of that 2nd round yet, and one of them (landry) had red flags on him that made him drop. teams miss players, it happens. its not like there are another dozen players out of that draft that were/are clearly better and the spurs were the only ones to screw it up. lots of misses in that crop at this point.