Young Talent for Bruce Bowen?

[Butter]

First of all, I realize that I am probably treading on blasphemy here, but would the Spurs be willing to trade Bruce Bowen for an influx of young players? Don't shoot me, I'm just curious about the prospect.

As a Blazers fan I really like Ime Udoka, a lot. I kept my eye on him from time to time last year. My very uneducated opinion is that some day he might be able to step in when Bowen slows down. So IF the Spurs thought that Udoka could fill that role, or IF they could get an influx of younger talent, is this an idea that the Spurs would consider?

There are two basic idea's that I've been toying with:

1) Travis Outlaw, draft picks, etc
2) 3-way deal with Chicago, with the Bulls landing Nocioni

Once again, neither of those are inclusive or final offers, just a very rough draft for a starting point.

[Blame Rasho]

I want Batum....

[ChargerMan]

I think the bulls are the most likely trade partners for the Spurs

Gordon
Nociono
Hughes
Henrich

are all up for grabs, i think Hughes would help the Spurs alot

[Blame Rasho]

Ew.... Hughes...

I rather stick with Finley than Hughes.

[Blame Rasho]

I want Batum....

I am sorry... didn't answer your question...

I would trade players like Udoka, Mason,Hill, hell, even Bowen if we got someone like Batum or Rodriquez back. I do like Outlaw but I think he will find a good niche with Oden and Aldridge during the year.

[UDRIH14]

isnt hughes injury prone, and his contract, actually most of the bulls contracted players are out of spurs reach imo....too pricey

[Butter]

I want Batum....

I am sorry... didn't answer your question...

I would trade players like Udoka, Mason,Hill, hell, even Bowen if we got someone like Batum or Rodriquez back. I do like Outlaw but I think he will find a good niche with Oden and Aldridge during the year.

Batum is an exciting young prospect. To be completely honest, I was kind of hoping for a scenario where the Blazers could get someone like Bowen to start for a couple years, mentor Batum, and then back Batum up as he develops.

I think there's probably a really good deal that could be struck with the Bulls, Blazers, and Spurs in a 3 way deal. It is very possible that the Bulls would like Raef Lafrentz's expiring deal. Who knows? I was playing around with the trade checker a bit with that, but the Spurs just don't seem to have any big contracts that need to be moved.

Maybe a deal with Udoka would be easier. But I do think there is some potential there.

IMHO, the Spurs are still a premier team in the league, but they could really benefit from some young talent/fresh legs to take some of the pressure off of their stars.

[Nolan]

Offer us one of Webster, Outlaw, Frye, Fernandez or Batum and we might be able to work out a deal.

[Butter]

Offer us one of Webster, Outlaw, Frye, Fernandez or Batum and we might be able to work out a deal.

If I had any kind of influence on the Blazers in real life, I'd offer you Outlaw or Webster. I think Outlaw would be a perfect fit on the Spurs. He'd give them an athletic scorer off the bench. Outlaw had a big season last year, but I still don't think he's maxed his potential.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would do Outlaw for Bowen in an instant..I love Bowen, he's one of my top 5 favorite players ever, but while Outlaw isn't as good a defender, his offensive and athleticism advantage makes up for it and more..

[Raptors90102]

Big time Spurs fan here.. I think the spurs need another consistent scoring big along with TimmyD.. Also, they need another big to groom for the future once TD hangs em up in 3-4 years.. Now is the time to get that big and let him play with Timmy for the next few years and improve by learning from him.. A few names that come to mind:

Charlie V - Milwaukee might bite the bullet as they're not really keen on CV and might try to get some sort of value in return before they let him walk next year. The kid has serious talent, just needs to be in the right situation. Pop can do that for him.

Brandon Wright - Don't know what they play to do with him down there in Oakland. Seems to have all the tools that Duncan can help develop and is still a pup at 20 yrs.

Andre Blatche - Washington is high on him but they are fast getting fedup with his inconsistencies and failure to deliver on his promises. The spurs could take a flier on him and see if he pans out.

All the above mentioned players haven't panned out for one reason or the other. and are likely to come for cheaper than we all think.

[Nolan]

Offer us one of Webster, Outlaw, Frye, Fernandez or Batum and we might be able to work out a deal.

If I had any kind of influence on the Blazers in real life, I'd offer you Outlaw or Webster. I think Outlaw would be a perfect fit on the Spurs. He'd give them an athletic scorer off the bench. Outlaw had a big season last year, but I still don't think he's maxed his potential.

What about Frye AND Webster for Bowen. Am I out to lunch or would you consider that?

Frye is still young and would work well next to Duncan. Webster would give us more outside shooting and some young blood on the perimeter. Both guys would help us now and in the future.

[the southern dandy]

Bowen is my favourite player of all time and we'd never really get fair value back for him, especially at his age. Unless there's an absolute steal to be had I'd like to keep Bruce on board and let him retire a Spur.

[sheepwarrior]

I'd like to get some young talent for Bowen... I have a feeling he'll retire a Spur though

[Blame Rasho]

BAtum is going to start for the Blazers....

[ChargerMan]

Since Curry is gonna be traded and I know most everybody will hate on this but Spurs need a legit big man next to Duncan so he can go back to being a PF. I know Curry is a fat out of shape, unmotivated, Kwame Brown with less defense, but even so he is still a big man scorer and Duncan will more than make up for any shortcomings of Curry. **** Curry at 50% is better than Oberto, Knicks look to just be getting relief so they might take over part of his contract.

[Blame Rasho]

Since Curry is gonna be traded and I know most everybody will hate on this but Spurs need a legit big man next to Duncan so he can go back to being a PF. I know Curry is a fat out of shape, unmotivated, Kwame Brown with less defense, but even so he is still a big man scorer and Duncan will more than make up for any shortcomings of Curry. **** Curry at 50% is better than Oberto, Knicks look to just be getting relief so they might take over part of his contract.

I am totally against him becoming a spur,but lets play around and say we indeed want to trade for him. He makes close to 10 million dollars. In fact I am sure with the trade kicker he is sure to have it is basically 10 million dollars. We would have to give like 2 or 3 players to match his salary. It isn't remotely possible.

[ss1986v2]

at this point, i can basically begin recycling my old rants around here. my eddy curry rant from back in july:

if eddy currys best case scenario is what he did in 06-07, the knicks can keep him.

his ability to be a black hole on offense (ball goes in, it aint coming back out) combined with his poor handles give him one of the most offensive (not the good kind) ast/to number of any big in the league (career 0.25; 0.23 in 06-07). actually, i cant find one with a worse one whose seen over 15 minutes per game in the entire league (anyone got one?). he cant rebound (or wont, it doesnt matter). he isnt a shot blocking presence (0.8 per game career, just under 0.5 in 06-07 where he saw a whopping 35 mpg!) nor is he a noteworthy defender (big, strong, and surprisingly agile, but cant/doesnt do anything with it). then there is the conditioning issues (always a concern when dealing with curry). what he does do exceedingly well is put the ball in the basket (at a pretty efficient clip at that). but thats not really enough out of center making 10 mil.

speaking of his contract, that alone is probably going to a halt to any curry trade. with the signing of mason, the spurs seem dead set on clearing cap space for 2010. and currys deal is too odd for the spurs to take a chance with. from my understanding (shams site is down, so im going off of memory and hoopshype here), curry has an ETO after next season, and a player option the year after that. coming off his 06-07 year, is was taken as a given he would probably opt out his first chance to get a bigger payday (or at least some more guaranteed years). but then his production took a dive, and now its anyones guess what might happen. so hes either a one, two, or three year deal at this point. so lets look at all the options:

if hes a three year deal, it kill the spurs chances at quality cap space in 2010 (plus you figure he hasnt done so hot in the last two year, because he decided to play out his contract rather than try getting a new deal). thats a big no from the spurs.

if hes a two year deal, it mean he did well enough his 2nd year here to decide to try and get a bigger payday, but probably not so good in his 1st year, or he would have already opted out. his cap hold would cut into any potential cap space that year, and he would cost at least as much (if not more) to resign. so the spurs either let him walk, or they use their cap space on eddy curry. this isnt a horrible scenario though, because we could possibly help facilitate any s&t options, or simply let him walk since his initial cost was relatively low and we got at least one somewhat productive year out of him.

if hes a one year deal, it mean he did rather well, and figures hes better off leaving nearly 22 mil on the table to get a more lucrative deal. but then we again end up with the options of having eddy curry be our big splash, facilitating a s&t (possibly our best option of any), or letting him walk for nothing.

i just now realize i spent about 20+ minutes writing about eddy curry, and im now depressed...

[ChargerMan]

What about Brad Miller? The Kings are looking to get something in return for Miller and a nice passing C would work perfectly with Timmy D.

[Blame Rasho]

What about Brad Miller? The Kings are looking to get something in return for Miller and a nice passing C would work perfectly with Timmy D.

How... with 11.3 million dollar contract?