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Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2009 1:48 pm
by Greek
According the Greek media Spurs are trying to sign him. Bouroussis is 26 y/o late boomer Greek C, 6'11-7' with very good length, decent athleticism, and a range up to European 3pt line. Sounds like a very good replacement for Oberto, and from what ive seen from both i think that Yiannis is better player too. More about him, you can find on http://www.draftexpress.com

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2009 6:53 pm
by bishopospurs
I would love to see him be a spur as long as we don't break the bank on him and he contributes right away. Here is video of him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLG2bYlrrY

He looks good though, the money wouldn't attract him to San Antonio, it would have to be playing time. The spurs are hurting so bad for bigs he has a real shot to get good minutes and grab a title. We don't need projects though, we need guys that are NBA ready, Timmy and Gino are showing age. I do think he could be NBA ready though.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2009 9:53 pm
by Nolan
Well from what i've read about him it sounds like he's a good pick roll big man with range and knack for grabbing offensive boards. If he can bring more to the floor than Oberto then I definitely welcome him.

Do have a link an article or something that says we're interested?

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2009 5:33 am
by Greek
Nolan wrote:Well from what i've read about him it sounds like he's a good pick roll big man with range and knack for grabbing offensive boards. If he can bring more to the floor than Oberto then I definitely welcome him.

Do have a link an article or something that says we're interested?


http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/c ... g-gre.html
He is currently free agent, and i think that he worth to look at him, considering how bad/old are now ur big men( not Tim!!) big problem is that Agelopoulos family is 1 of the richest families in the world, so if they want to keep him, will offer him money that he will cant refuse.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2009 8:34 pm
by Blame Rasho
Well the thing is that it is very unlikely that they will let him go given that the Raptors want to get a player from very same team. He is most likely just using the spurs to get a better offer from his current team.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:04 am
by co_laper
Most young rookie post player (american and international) come into the NBA and deal with foul trouble issues. Right now, I don't believe he's to a point where he can come in and beat out Kurt Thomas, or Matt Bonner, or even Ian Mahinmi. And we'll have to use part of our MLE to get him here. the MLE is our biggest asset to add someone right now. To use about half of it on some european big man that I really have never heard about until now... NO WAY!!!

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:53 am
by Greek
co_laper wrote:Most young rookie post player (american and international) come into the NBA and deal with foul trouble issues. Right now, I don't believe he's to a point where he can come in and beat out Kurt Thomas, or Matt Bonner, or even Ian Mahinmi. And we'll have to use part of our MLE to get him here. the MLE is our biggest asset to add someone right now. To use about half of it on some european big man that I really have never heard about until now... NO WAY!!!


Oh come on man. Did Mark Gasol had any of those problems? or Manu or Rudy? Even Sabonis? We are talking about a very established player in Europe, who is the best C right now here. You cant compare him with a young wonder guys

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:35 pm
by co_laper
I don't recall anyone saying that Marc Gasol has no foul trouble. If anything, they all say Marc is weak defensively but he's very good offensively.

Manu or Rudy aren't post players.

Sabonis came to the NBA at what age? like 30 or something.

And again, I personally have never heard of Bouroussis and I'm sure most people in this board who knows his strengths and weaknesses got that by googling or whatever. To think that he'll come and instantly be one of the better centers in the NBA is just crazy thinking.

As far as the best Center in Europe, isn't it weird how that title is thrown to just about every big man in Europe? You hear that about Javtokas. About Splitter. About Scola. and now about Boroussis. And that's just about our guys...

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:15 pm
by Blame Rasho
Well Splitter was gimpy this year and had to deal with a death of his sister. His stats weren't exactly as good as they were before.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:26 pm
by Greek
co_laper wrote:I don't recall anyone saying that Marc Gasol has no foul trouble. If anything, they all say Marc is weak defensively but he's very good offensively.

Manu or Rudy aren't post players.

Sabonis came to the NBA at what age? like 30 or something.

And again, I personally have never heard of Bouroussis and I'm sure most people in this board who knows his strengths and weaknesses got that by googling or whatever. To think that he'll come and instantly be one of the better centers in the NBA is just crazy thinking.

As far as the best Center in Europe, isn't it weird how that title is thrown to just about every big man in Europe? You hear that about Javtokas. About Splitter. About Scola. and now about Boroussis. And that's just about our guys...

I never said that he will be 1 of the better centers of the NBA, but who u prefer? M.Gasol or Bonner? I can see him on his rookie season to have similar stats with Mark. Also isnt painful for you to watching Scola with Rockets jersey? You traded him for nothing, and look at him now...
Who ever said that Jaftokas was a great C? great body, athleticism but i never saw any1 to talk about his (inexistent) skills. If you check his Euroleague stats was the most efficient/min player, so i am not just overrating my home boy. As it is now the Spurs instantly will be the 2nd best big man of the team.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:49 pm
by bishopospurs
I can see there are some valid points being made. I am down to sign anyone who would make the team better. Obviously we don't have the luxury of seeing Bouroussis everynight, and the only people who will know are the spurs scouts. In the event the spurs commit money to this guy I would actually be pretty excited. That means Pop and RC think he is worth it, so that would be great. As for the Scola/Splitter comparisons, I wish both those guys were wearing spurs jerseys next year so if this guy is in fact someone who could play at that level I say go for it. Of course the spurs front office isn't perfect, anyone remember Mengke Bateer?

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:28 am
by Blame Rasho
No one expected anything from Bateer.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:13 am
by KWSN-Men
co_laper wrote:I don't recall anyone saying that Marc Gasol has no foul trouble. If anything, they all say Marc is weak defensively but he's very good offensively.

Manu or Rudy aren't post players.

Sabonis came to the NBA at what age? like 30 or something.

And again, I personally have never heard of Bouroussis and I'm sure most people in this board who knows his strengths and weaknesses got that by googling or whatever. To think that he'll come and instantly be one of the better centers in the NBA is just crazy thinking.

As far as the best Center in Europe, isn't it weird how that title is thrown to just about every big man in Europe? You hear that about Javtokas. About Splitter. About Scola. and now about Boroussis. And that's just about our guys...


IMO Bourousis is absolutely one of the two most talented centers all around in Europe for me along with Pekovic. The best centers and center/forwards (you know like the Gasol/Duncan types) in Europe I think currently are in any order:

David Andersen
Tiago Splitter
Ioannis Bourousis
Erazem Lorbek
Robertas Javtokas
Andreas Glyniadakis
Mike Batiste
Nikola Pekovic
Fran Vazquez
Felipe Reyes
Lavrinovic brothers

I bet every manager in Europe would pick Boruousis and Pekovic first to start his team if he had the choice. I am absolutely sure that the two biggest talents in Europe at the center spot are Bourousis and Pekovic. Splitter isn't as talented as those guys.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:50 am
by co_laper
Personally, I don't trust a guy's scouting report of his own "homeboy".

No offense, but they tend to be overrated.

From my POV, this is the first time ever this guy's name circulated in the NBA circle. Which can't be good.

His best scouting report is that he has a knack for offensive rebounds. I don't know about you guys, but I care more about having a knack for Defensive Rebounds more than Offensive Rebounds. So when you hear about someone's best skill is his knack for Offensive Rebounds, boy his ability to box out and rebound defensively can't be that great.

He's got range. That's not something that's good either. If he got range, and he can actually shoot it, they'll say things like he's money from 18 feet or whatever. Not just "he got range".

Good pick and role partner? That's usually what they say for guys who makes good screens. Oberto is a good pick and role partner. Not that he can do anything if they double on Parker and he gives the ball up to Oberto (his P&R partner).

If we're simply taking someone who may look better than Bonner, atleast give me Darko. He's legit 7 footer and a shotblocker. Something we don't have outside of Tim Duncan. I don't like Darko, but compared to a guy who's scouting report looks like what I just described above.. I'll learn to love Darko.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:32 am
by Greek
co_laper wrote:Personally, I don't trust a guy's scouting report of his own "homeboy".

No offense, but they tend to be overrated.

From my POV, this is the first time ever this guy's name circulated in the NBA circle. Which can't be good.

His best scouting report is that he has a knack for offensive rebounds. I don't know about you guys, but I care more about having a knack for Defensive Rebounds more than Offensive Rebounds. So when you hear about someone's best skill is his knack for Offensive Rebounds, boy his ability to box out and rebound defensively can't be that great.

He's got range. That's not something that's good either. If he got range, and he can actually shoot it, they'll say things like he's money from 18 feet or whatever. Not just "he got range".

Good pick and role partner? That's usually what they say for guys who makes good screens. Oberto is a good pick and role partner. Not that he can do anything if they double on Parker and he gives the ball up to Oberto (his P&R partner).

If we're simply taking someone who may look better than Bonner, atleast give me Darko. He's legit 7 footer and a shotblocker. Something we don't have outside of Tim Duncan. I don't like Darko, but compared to a guy who's scouting report looks like what I just described above.. I'll learn to love Darko.


1st i am not a kid, to get excited so easily, 2nd he is playing for Olympiacos, hated rival of my team Panathinaikos, and when we are talking about a war, with dead funs, so i i have every reason not like him. The fact that i like him means that i respect him. Anyway, its a long summer...we will see.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:00 am
by KWSN-Men
co_laper wrote:Personally, I don't trust a guy's scouting report of his own "homeboy".

No offense, but they tend to be overrated.

From my POV, this is the first time ever this guy's name circulated in the NBA circle. Which can't be good.

His best scouting report is that he has a knack for offensive rebounds. I don't know about you guys, but I care more about having a knack for Defensive Rebounds more than Offensive Rebounds. So when you hear about someone's best skill is his knack for Offensive Rebounds, boy his ability to box out and rebound defensively can't be that great.

He's got range. That's not something that's good either. If he got range, and he can actually shoot it, they'll say things like he's money from 18 feet or whatever. Not just "he got range".

Good pick and role partner? That's usually what they say for guys who makes good screens. Oberto is a good pick and role partner. Not that he can do anything if they double on Parker and he gives the ball up to Oberto (his P&R partner).

If we're simply taking someone who may look better than Bonner, atleast give me Darko. He's legit 7 footer and a shotblocker. Something we don't have outside of Tim Duncan. I don't like Darko, but compared to a guy who's scouting report looks like what I just described above.. I'll learn to love Darko.


We are talking about a guy that's considerably better than Splitter is. You could have just said you don't know anything about him, have never seen him play, and assume he is awful because he's not American. Don't ever compare Darko to him. It's like saying you would rather have Gooden than Duncan.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:25 pm
by co_laper
I didn't say nor pretend I know anything about him cause I don't. I'm going by what you guys are saying right now. I'm not excited enough with him to actually look him up and see what he's all about.

I said what I said. The scouting report on him from you guys doesn't look good and he's never been talked about ever in the NBA circle.

What I meant with Darko is that Darko is the last guy I want on this team to fill my Center slot, but compared to what I'm looking at from Yiannis, give me Darko.

Please, you think he's better than Splitter? Then I don't get why he's not in the NBA and he's already 26. Splitter, if not for his buyout, would've went much higher in last year's NBA Draft.

And while I think Darko's only skill is being big and a good shotblocker, atleast he managed to stick around in the NBA and even get multi year deals and more than the minimum.

Yiannis is 26, which means he's been a FA for a few years. Why hasn't he landed anywhere? if he's soooo much better than Darko, i'm sure someone would atleast sign him for 2-3 mil a long time ago. That is, reportedly, what we're offering anyways.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:34 pm
by co_laper
I'll say another thing.

our window for a title is in the next 2 years.

If the Spurs end up using their MLE this year and our best acquisition is someone that just arrived in the NBA circle last week instead of someone guys we wanted like Sheed/Marion/Bird man or even Matt Barnes and other guys, I'd be disappointed.

Heck, we know the Spurs will need to use their MLE if they want to keep Gooden. If they chose Yiannis over Gooden for the MLE and we end up having basically the same team as last year, i'd still be disappointed.

You could list atleast 8 guys in the FA that we really have a chance on and put it above Yiannis. Yiannis is not plan A, nor plan B, nor C.. He's like Plan L. And who in here is gonna happy to hear that we improve this year by losing Gooden, and getting Yiannis to replace him?

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:15 pm
by KWSN-Men
co_laper wrote:I didn't say nor pretend I know anything about him cause I don't. I'm going by what you guys are saying right now. I'm not excited enough with him to actually look him up and see what he's all about.

I said what I said. The scouting report on him from you guys doesn't look good and he's never been talked about ever in the NBA circle.

What I meant with Darko is that Darko is the last guy I want on this team to fill my Center slot, but compared to what I'm looking at from Yiannis, give me Darko.

Please, you think he's better than Splitter? Then I don't get why he's not in the NBA and he's already 26. Splitter, if not for his buyout, would've went much higher in last year's NBA Draft.

And while I think Darko's only skill is being big and a good shotblocker, atleast he managed to stick around in the NBA and even get multi year deals and more than the minimum.

Yiannis is 26, which means he's been a FA for a few years. Why hasn't he landed anywhere? if he's soooo much better than Darko, i'm sure someone would atleast sign him for 2-3 mil a long time ago. That is, reportedly, what we're offering anyways.


I don't even know where to begin. I give up. He should stay in Greece. The NBA fans don't deserve him at all.

Re: Yiannis Bouroussis

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:55 pm
by co_laper
Begin somewhere.

I'll start. I bet $5 US (I'm poor) that Yiannis don't even come to the NBA this summer.