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The trade deadline is coming up pretty quick (Feb. 19) and this team still has a couple holes in it. So post your trade ideas that you think will help this team out.

I'll start it, I suggested this deal in another thread and I think it would work well for us.

Pacers trade: Jeff Foster

Spurs trade: Matt Bonner (expiring) + cash

Why for the Pacers? They're currently rebuilding and Foster really doesn't fit into their longterm plans. They get out of his contract, which goes until 2011 and they get some cap space. The Pacers then use the cash to buy out Bonner then he returns to the Spurs. We could also throw in a second rounder to sweeten the deal a bit.

Why for us? Foster is exactly what we need next to Duncan. A true gritty work horse type center that doesn't need the ball to be effective. Foster steps into the starting lineup and gives us another good low post defender and a great rebounder.

I like this one.

How about this:

Spurs trade: RJ & Finley

Wizards trade: Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller

Both Haywood and Miller are expiring contracts. Haywood provides a double-double threat every night, Miller provides great shooting.

I'm not a fan of RJ, I think he is a glorified role player and not even close to being worth $14m per.

Turnover King wrote:I like this one.

How about this:

Spurs trade: RJ & Finley

Wizards trade: Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller

Both Haywood and Miller are expiring contracts. Haywood provides a double-double threat every night, Miller provides great shooting.

I'm not a fan of RJ, I think he is a glorified role player and not even close to being worth $14m per.

I like it. Miller's a great glue guy he can shoot it from outside, he rebounds well for a guard, he's a decent defender and he's a pretty good passer.

Turnover King wrote:I like this one.

How about this:

Spurs trade: RJ & Finley

Wizards trade: Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller

Both Haywood and Miller are expiring contracts. Haywood provides a double-double threat every night, Miller provides great shooting.

I'm not a fan of RJ, I think he is a glorified role player and not even close to being worth $14m per.

Why would the Wizards do that? They're basically giving expirings away for RJ's bloated contract. I can't see them doing this without demanding a young player(Splitter,Hill,Blair) or draft picks in return.

Turnover King wrote:I like this one.

How about this:

Spurs trade: RJ & Finley

Wizards trade: Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller

Both Haywood and Miller are expiring contracts. Haywood provides a double-double threat every night, Miller provides great shooting.

I'm not a fan of RJ, I think he is a glorified role player and not even close to being worth $14m per.

We can actually get Haywood without breaking up our big 4..Blair and expirings should do it..They don't want Jefferson's contract anyway..Jefferson is a good player who may not be worth the 14 mil, but brings so many dimensions to our offense that it wouldn't be right to trade him..Miller is a nice player who brings quite some playmaking with the shooting, but what he does Jefferson can do better..

wone wrote:

Turnover King wrote:I like this one.

How about this:

Spurs trade: RJ & Finley

Wizards trade: Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller

Both Haywood and Miller are expiring contracts. Haywood provides a double-double threat every night, Miller provides great shooting.

I'm not a fan of RJ, I think he is a glorified role player and not even close to being worth $14m per.

We can actually get Haywood without breaking up our big 4..Blair and expirings should do it..They don't want Jefferson's contract anyway..Jefferson is a good player who may not be worth the 14 mil, but brings so many dimensions to our offense that it wouldn't be right to trade him..Miller is a nice player who brings quite some playmaking with the shooting, but what he does Jefferson can do better..

I'm really not prepared to give up Blair for a guy that can just walk at the end of the season.

I'm thinking along the same lines, but I think these are a bit more realistic...

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Detroit trades: Ben Wallace + Chris Wilcox

San Antonio trades: Micheal Finely + Theo Ratliff

Simple deal, Detroit get's out of the last year of Wilcox's deal and clears some cap space. We get a veteran defensive center to pair with Duncan in the starting lineup who can match up with some of the elite bigmen in the west.

Magic trade: GF Mickeal Pietrus| PF Brandon Bass| PG Anthony Johnson (bought-out/ returns)
Spurs trade: SF Richard Jefferson| 2010 2nd RD Pick

Orlando Magic:
Nelson| Carter| Jefferson| Lewis| Howard
Williams| Redick| Barnes | Anderson| Gortat


Richard Jefferson

+ Gain SF Richard Jefferson whose size/ speed/ experience make him a superb perimeter defender (especially) for our playoff run in the East likely being matched (round to round) against the likes of the Hawks Marvin Williams or the Bobcats Gerald Wallace to eventually the Celtics Paul Pierce or the Cavs LeBron James
+ Offensively Jefferson is an athletic, explosive leaper who makes strong cuts to the basket (as does GF Matt Barnes) BUT RJ FINISHES w/ authority which we sorely need while also having the ability of getting to the foul line at a decent rate AND ALSO HAS CHEMISTRY w/ GF Vince Carter
+ "The Lawrence Frank Factor", maybe he'd also be able to get more from RJ than his current production w/ the Spurs
+ W/ his contract expiring 2011 (along w/ Vince Carter) this gives us HUGE ASSETS for this 2010 summer (LeBron/ Wade/ Bosh) OR the summer of 2011 (Durant/ Melo) while also gaining 2010 2nd RD Pick (hey maybe we'd find our Gilbert Arenas/ Carlos Boozer/ or DeJuan Blair)
= Trading GF Pietrus who shoots the 3 ball at a higher % than Jefferson BUT defensively RJ levels the field
- Trading PF Brandon Bass whom could be quite a productive player given the right circumstances
- Possibly taking on more 2010 salary w/ RJ's contract if kept

San Antonio Spurs:
Parker| Ginobili| Pietrus| Blair| Duncan
Hill | Mason | Finley | Bass| McDyess


Mickeal Pietrus

Brandon Bass

+ Spurs gain very solid defender GF Mickeal Pietrus whose 3PT stroke/ basket attacking ability would fit in nicely w/ the Spurs offense/ Pietrus is also signed to a modest contract ($5M+/ 2yrs)
+ Spurs gain backup big, workhorse PF Brandon Bass to come in and do the "heavy lifting" when STUD PF DeJuan Blair needs a break (Bash Brothers 2)/ Bass also has a decent mid range shot and is also signed to a modest contract ($4M+/ 3 yrs)
+ Get out of Richard Jefferson contract who (up til now) has not been fitting in w/ the Spurs offense
= Move a nice 2011 expiring contract (RJ) but for very young useful pieces/ depth and flexibility
- Trading their 2010 2nd RD Pick which they ALWAYS strike gold w/

Deal?

No. I don't think this solve our problem. Our frontcourt needs help. That's true. But what Bass brings IMO is not defense. To me, the guy can put up points, but that's not our issue with the bigs right now. I couldn't care less about Pietrus right now because we're losing Jefferson anyways, but if the "other" guy is Bass, I say no deal. The only guy I see worth trading for and could fix our frontcourt issue is Gortat.

I personally would deal Jefferson for Pietrus and Gortat. That's 2 role players who could really thrive in our system. Pietrus as a Bowen-type and Gortat as our new Starting Center.

co_laper wrote:No. I don't think this solve our problem. Our frontcourt needs help. That's true. But what Bass brings IMO is not defense. To me, the guy can put up points, but that's not our issue with the bigs right now. I couldn't care less about Pietrus right now because we're losing Jefferson anyways, but if the "other" guy is Bass, I say no deal. The only guy I see worth trading for and could fix our frontcourt issue is Gortat.

I personally would deal Jefferson for Pietrus and Gortat. That's 2 role players who could really thrive in our system. Pietrus as a Bowen-type and Gortat as our new Starting Center.

Fair enough but there's no way we'd be able to swap Gortat for Bass to acquire RJ. We'd need more in return but I don't really see a deal unless it involved you guys coming off of George Hill and that still may be a stretch.

I say trade Jefferson, Blair and filler for Amare...

Yeah... I am that crazy.

We aren't going to defend like we did so might as well try and outscore them.

WillyJakk7 wrote:

co_laper wrote:No. I don't think this solve our problem. Our frontcourt needs help. That's true. But what Bass brings IMO is not defense. To me, the guy can put up points, but that's not our issue with the bigs right now. I couldn't care less about Pietrus right now because we're losing Jefferson anyways, but if the "other" guy is Bass, I say no deal. The only guy I see worth trading for and could fix our frontcourt issue is Gortat.

I personally would deal Jefferson for Pietrus and Gortat. That's 2 role players who could really thrive in our system. Pietrus as a Bowen-type and Gortat as our new Starting Center.

Fair enough but there's no way we'd be able to swap Gortat for Bass to acquire RJ. We'd need more in return but I don't really see a deal unless it involved you guys coming off of George Hill and that still may be a stretch.

There's no way we'd throw in Hill and the only way we'd do that deal is if it was Pietrus and Gortat for RJ.

Whatever we can get for RJ is something I'd be open to...

Man, RJ looks REALLY REALLY BAD on the Spurs and I'm not sure what it is exactly but after watching tonite's game.... Pietrus | Bass may be overpaying for the guy at this particular point.

You're ridiculous

WillyJakk7 wrote:Man, RJ looks REALLY REALLY BAD on the Spurs and I'm not sure what it is exactly but after watching tonite's game.... Pietrus | Bass may be overpaying for the guy at this particular point.

I would tend to agree with this.

No way..Trading Jefferson away would be a mistake..His offense has done WONDERS for our offense...which is currently ranked 7th. Our offense as is is good enough to win a championship..Our defense is not..Simple as that..You don't trade away a valuable part of your offense who is still relatively young in terms of Spurs age with the goal of bringing home title number five..If THERE IS one player from our big 4 that we should consider trading it's 32 year old Ginobili...not Jefferson.

wone wrote:No way..Trading Jefferson away would be a mistake..His offense has done WONDERS for our offense...which is currently ranked 7th. Our offense as is is good enough to win a championship..Our defense is not..Simple as that..You don't trade away a valuable part of your offense who is still relatively young in terms of Spurs age with the goal of bringing home title number five..If THERE IS one player from our big 4 that we should consider trading it's 32 year old Ginobili...not Jefferson.

Jefferson is a utter black hole on D... he is pathetic.

Blame Rasho wrote:

wone wrote:No way..Trading Jefferson away would be a mistake..His offense has done WONDERS for our offense...which is currently ranked 7th. Our offense as is is good enough to win a championship..Our defense is not..Simple as that..You don't trade away a valuable part of your offense who is still relatively young in terms of Spurs age with the goal of bringing home title number five..If THERE IS one player from our big 4 that we should consider trading it's 32 year old Ginobili...not Jefferson.

Jefferson is a utter black hole on D... he is pathetic.

True but interior defense is more important than perimeter defense...Jefferson's D is the least of our worries...