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Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 2, 2010 7:32 pm
by Nolan
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/02/shaking-the-roster-up/The good folks at Elias Sports Burea are in the business of providing perspective. According to Elias, the Spurs are 3-9 against teams with a .600 or better record. The only Western Conference teams that are worse than the Spurs against said opponents are the Warriors, Timberwolves, Clippers and Kings. League-wide, teams beat .600 teams .329 of the time. To say the Spurs struggle against good teams is putting it gently.
And that’s really what this comes down to. The Spurs’ best opportunity to improve their roster is through the trade market, and the market is interesting. If not now, then this offseason. If not this summer, then next February. But the longer the Spurs wait, the less time the new faces have to gel with their new running mates. And by next summer, the discussion is really about building for a championship in the post-Duncan era. But we’re not there yet, I trust.
If the Spurs don’t make a trade, the best this offseason will bring is a resigned Manu Ginobili, Tiago Splitter and a decent draft pick. And none of that is guaranteed. If it pans out, then it’s a good summer, but not likely good enough. Not with Ginobili and Duncan one season closer to retirement. Those are the realities.
This seems to becoming a pretty common perception of this team, a lot of other bloggers and writers have been floating this idea around as well. And the idea is basically that if the rodeo road trip is a bust this team needs to make serious changes.
Personally I think changes need to be made this team has some holes that need to be addressed if we want to contend and i'm for making some deals. But i'm not all for dealing our players (Hill, Blair, rights to Splitter) and picks to help fill those holes. If we want to be a competitive in the post Duncan era we're going to need to hang on to and develop our youngsters rather than dealing them for aging role players. We've had a lot of success drafting late in the draft and I honestly think that the draft should be a priority for us.
What do you guys think we need to do?
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 2, 2010 9:25 pm
by SApuro_
I hate it when teams leverage there future for a shot at the present. Hill, Blair, and Splitter are all valueable pieces to our future. This team has proven so far they simply can not get it done. I say trade away RC. Shake things up and put us in the best position to make be competitive just dont get rid of the young talent. Expiring contacts are more valuable these days anyway...and we have a ton of those. Manu, Bonner, Finley, Mason, Ratlif, and I believe Hairston are all 1 yr or final year deals.
I would hate to give up Hill, he has such a tremendous up side. Keep the young talent but make a move.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 2, 2010 10:07 pm
by Donald Kaufman
Yeah, I'm not too keen on moving Hill or Blair. Those guys are the future of this team. I hate to say it, but our best shot at contention is to package a trade involving Parker or Ginobili.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2010 2:37 pm
by Ballings7
We have to get more defense up front and a more consistent dynamic wing-player
Definitely need to do well in this years draft, too.
As far as this year, I don't know, wait and see
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2010 6:38 pm
by Nolan
Ballings7 wrote:We have to get more defense up front and a more consistent dynamic wing-player
Definitely need to do well in this years draft, too.
As far as this year, I don't know, wait and see
I wonder if we could get a guy like Andre Iguodala from the Sixers. It seems like they really want to move him and maybe if take Samuel Dalembert we could get him for expirings.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:24 am
by TAI8
I'm convinced George Hill has star potential..The guy looks real good out there..He's a decent playmaker and passer...especially out of the dribble drive. He has tremendous finishing ability and a decent jumper..He doesn't make many mistakes on the offensive end of the floor..He's not a good defender by any means but he has the tools to be pretty darn good in that department..He is averaging 16 a pop on 47% in 13 games when given starter minutes on a team with 4 potential 20 point scorers...that is amazing.
Blair on the other hand is more of a double edged sword..For all the good he brings (offensive rebounding, finishing) unfortunately the bad (defense) nearly cancels it out..He is an ATROCIOUS defender...man, help, you name it. Bigs are not afraid to exploit their height advantage and swingmen are not afraid to take it to the basket..What this means is that one of Bonner, Blair, and Dyess has got to go because their defensive ineptitude combined is the major culprit behind our not so stellar, once dominant Spurs defense..
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Sat Feb 6, 2010 1:46 pm
by Nolan
wone wrote:I'm convinced George Hill has star potential..The guy looks real good out there..He's a decent playmaker and passer...especially out of the dribble drive. He has tremendous finishing ability and a decent jumper..He doesn't make many mistakes on the offensive end of the floor..He's not a good defender by any means but he has the tools to be pretty darn good in that department..He is averaging 16 a pop on 47% in 13 games when given starter minutes on a team with 4 potential 20 point scorers...that is amazing.
Blair on the other hand is more of a double edged sword..For all the good he brings (offensive rebounding, finishing) unfortunately the bad (defense) nearly cancels it out..He is an ATROCIOUS defender...man, help, you name it. Bigs are not afraid to exploit their height advantage and swingmen are not afraid to take it to the basket..What this means is that one of Bonner, Blair, and Dyess has got to go because their defensive ineptitude combined is the major culprit behind our not so stellar, once dominant Spurs defense..
Totally agree with you about Hill, the kid's gonna be a stud and Pops has a ton of confidence in him. Blair is what he is a amazing rebounder and tough and gritty inside presence, he's not going to be a star but he's going to be a terrific role player and I still think he can improve his defense. His biggest problem is he's still not quite sure when to rotate or switch but those are things that can be taught and with his work ethic I know he'll improve.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:17 am
by SApuro_
Hill is going to be a very good player in this league. I especially enjoy his toughness and solid D. He plays extremely hard with a chip on his shoulder. He know he owes the spurs and Pop. Who else would take the chance on some unknown from IUPUI?
Blair is right in the same position. The spurs took care of him when no one else would. That means a lot to a player. I just wished we would do the same with those players that have given there heart and souls to the organization i.e. manu.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:14 am
by Ballings7
I think Dalembert is realistic for us
Iguodala not as sure about, but maybe they'd take Manu as a good veteran player who is expiring and would be in basically a rebuilding situation, so they wouldn't expect as much from him. He'd improve their outside shooting, also.
Both are two of my well-liked players, especially Iguodala
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:00 am
by BarbaGrizz
Splitter is SO underrated by people outside San Antonio. I guarantee that you uys got Pau Gasol´s second coming in him. He´ll worthy the wait
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:49 am
by Black_Jack21
I really hope so, he looked really good in the World Championships for Brazil. I just hope he doesn't lowball us again and elect to stay in Europe.
A trade really badly needs to happen, and really for a decent big man. However it appears according to the wiretap the only thing we are actively looking at is trading Mason becuase he's not getting enough minutes
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:33 am
by Donald Kaufman
BarbaGrizz wrote:Splitter is SO underrated by people outside San Antonio. I guarantee that you uys got Pau Gasol´s second coming in him. He´ll worthy the wait
I don't doubt he'll be worth the wait. But all we seem to do with these overseas prospects is wait or lose them altogether.
Is Splitter the one who got banged up pretty bad in a motorcycle accident?
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:48 am
by co_laper
I don't doubt Splitter, but I feel it'll be too late when he comes. Duncan and Manu isn't going to get better in the next 3 years.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:26 am
by Donald Kaufman
Yes, but Hill and Blair will. They're nice pieces to build with.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:53 am
by Black_Jack21
Donald Kaufman wrote:BarbaGrizz wrote:Splitter is SO underrated by people outside San Antonio. I guarantee that you uys got Pau Gasol´s second coming in him. He´ll worthy the wait
I don't doubt he'll be worth the wait. But all we seem to do with these overseas prospects is wait or lose them altogether.
Is Splitter the one who got banged up pretty bad in a motorcycle accident?
Nah it was Robertas Javtokas who was in the motorcycle accident
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:03 pm
by co_laper
I meant too late for our championship window.
As far as what we have for post Duncan era, I'm starting to like it. Splitter at Center, Blair and Hill. Parker will be 30. Jefferson will still be 32 and by then we'd have to start grooming someone to take his place (if he's still here). That's our starting lineup right there. It's certainly is much better than how it looked last year when we have only George Hill.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:35 pm
by Donald Kaufman
Yeah, even two years ago. We had Vaughn, Damon Stoudamire, Thomas, Oberto. Not much to get excited about.
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:12 am
by Blame Rasho
Donald Kaufman wrote:Yeah, even two years ago. We had Vaughn, Damon Stoudamire, Thomas, Oberto. Not much to get excited about.
Eh... that was nasty...
Re: Shaking up the roster?
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:33 am
by SApuro_
this team has shown glimpses of how dominate they can be. But yes our future is bright. Hill, Blair, Splitter, Parker is a good starting point.